Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Total BS. Haven't you also read that people cannot be hypothyroid with nornal TSH? I wish people would quit telling other people what they can and cannot be experiencing. Period. Just think about this claim a bit, nickel allergy is very common, and very well-documented. It isn't denied as is iodine allergy. It is also an element. If one can be allergic to one element why not another? (I am also allergic to nickel, in fact that is my first documented allergy). I have documented my allergy to iodine for 22 years now. With trials, eliminations, challenges. Plus I've done a lot of reading about IgE reactions in general. I have a true IgE histamine allergic reaction to iodine in any form, ingested or topical. If I react to dozens or hundreds of different substances in which the common factor is iodine/iodide content am I supposed to conclude I'm allergic to hundreds of different substances or combinations without being allergic to the common ingredient? Isn't it far more sensible to focus on the common ingredient? Perhaps Barb will weigh in here with how she determined she was allergic to yellow 5 instead of all the dozens of other ingredients in foods/products she reacted to. There is a pretty standard protocol for eliminating/challenging to determine food and food additive allergies, and I assure you I've done the work to know what I'm allergic to. Doesn't matter to me if I'm the only human out of the billions on earth who is truly allergic to iodine (but I know I'm not, I've met others). I am allergic and have proved it to my own satisfaction over the last decades. So by definition of the word impossible, it isn't. What is really interesting to me is that I have now turned up with autoimmune thyroid antibodies, and am finding elsewhere that iodine allergy, and sensitivity, and intolerance (there are degrees) is apparently much more common among people with autoimmune thyroid antibodies than among those without. I'm not sure what that means, but I find it interesting to wonder about. Which came first? The autoimmune condition or the allergy/intolerance? OR did adrenal/cortisol problems come even earlier and pre-dispose to everything? sol Jim Witte wrote: >> > I read somewhere that people *cannot* have allergies to iodine, as > it's simply an element. What they can have is allergies to various > proteins that contain it - I think it might have mentioned the iodine > carrier proteins. Val, what do you know about iodine allergy? > > Jim > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 True, though the amount of iodine essential to life is pretty low, and is apparently below my personal threshold of reaction. I've avoided iodine as best I can for two decades and more, and still never have gotten a goiter. Which an allergist MD told me means I still get plenty, and even with all my avoidance, I'm still alive............so. It is entirely possible I would be in much better health if I could tolerate more iodine, but I can't. End of story. With all allergies there is a threshold of reactivity. The key to avoiding any allergen is to keep intake/exposure below that threshold. I may need to stay on T3 only though, because of that very release of an iodine atom in the conversion of T4 to T3. I hope that suppressing my own T4 production as much as possible will also lessen my reactions, by lowering my total body iodine load, while still supplying the thyroid hormone I need. But I'm not entirely sure that the T3 molecule stays intact, and doesn't also at some point release its own iodine atoms. Meanwhile, I still get unexpectedly iodined from time to time, as it keeps turning up in more and more products and foods. sol mwm1glm wrote: > Not Val, but iodine is essential to life, one cannot live without it. Thyroxine is produced by > attaching iodine atoms to the ring structures of tyrosine molecules. Thyroxine(T4) contains > four iodine atoms. Triiodothyronine(T3) is identical to T4, but it has one less iodine atom per > molecule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Well. I sure am a classic example of a hypo person with a TSH showing Hyper. My TSH is .22 right now and I am very hypothyroid and trying to tolerate thyroid hormone and get myself well. My free T3 is very low and my reverse T3 is very high. Dr. Friedman says the only way to diagnose hypothyroidism in his opinion is Reverse T3 which will be high and free T3 which will be low end of normal range. This is how my labs are. The TSH test has killed thousands of people and causes horrible needless suffering. Re: Sea Salt - iodine allergy Total BS. Haven't you also read that people cannot be hypothyroid with nornal TSH? I wish people would quit telling other people what they can and cannot be experiencing. Period. Just think about this claim a bit, nickel allergy is very common, and very well-documented. It isn't denied as is iodine allergy. It is also an element. If one can be allergic to one element why not another? (I am also allergic to nickel, in fact that is my first documented allergy). I have documented my allergy to iodine for 22 years now. With trials, eliminations, challenges. Plus I've done a lot of reading about IgE reactions in general. I have a true IgE histamine allergic reaction to iodine in any form, ingested or topical. If I react to dozens or hundreds of different substances in which the common factor is iodine/iodide content am I supposed to conclude I'm allergic to hundreds of different substances or combinations without being allergic to the common ingredient? Isn't it far more sensible to focus on the common ingredient? Perhaps Barb will weigh in here with how she determined she was allergic to yellow 5 instead of all the dozens of other ingredients in foods/products she reacted to. There is a pretty standard protocol for eliminating/challenging to determine food and food additive allergies, and I assure you I've done the work to know what I'm allergic to. Doesn't matter to me if I'm the only human out of the billions on earth who is truly allergic to iodine (but I know I'm not, I've met others). I am allergic and have proved it to my own satisfaction over the last decades. So by definition of the word impossible, it isn't. What is really interesting to me is that I have now turned up with autoimmune thyroid antibodies, and am finding elsewhere that iodine allergy, and sensitivity, and intolerance (there are degrees) is apparently much more common among people with autoimmune thyroid antibodies than among those without. I'm not sure what that means, but I find it interesting to wonder about. Which came first? The autoimmune condition or the allergy/intolerance? OR did adrenal/cortisol problems come even earlier and pre-dispose to everything? sol Jim Witte wrote: >> > I read somewhere that people *cannot* have allergies to iodine, as > it's simply an element. What they can have is allergies to various > proteins that contain it - I think it might have mentioned the iodine > carrier proteins. Val, what do you know about iodine allergy? > > Jim > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Sol, if you are taking thyroid medication though, you are getting iodine. At least if you take any T3 or Armour because both have iodine molecules and the thyroid needs iodine. Tyrosine (amino acid) and iodine are what make up T3. Iodine is essential for the body. So you may be allergic to forms of iodine and can't supplement with it, but you are getting some iodine in your body or you would be dead by now. Just like you would be dead if you don't drink water for long enough. I think that is why people are confused when you say you are allergic to iodine. This isn't like the other things you list that aren't essential for human life. Iodine is essential. I certainly don't claim to know the answer but I think this is a riddle that there is probably more to it than what appears on the surface. Could iodine be causing hashi's attacks in you? Yes, that is very possible and I know of other Hashi's sufferers who have that problem. Have you done any detoxifying protocols? It seems like you are allergic to a lot of things and detoxifying really helps people with that. Cheri Re: Sea Salt - iodine allergy What is really interesting to me is that I have now turned up with autoimmune thyroid antibodies, and am finding elsewhere that iodine allergy, and sensitivity, and intolerance (there are degrees) is apparently much more common among people with autoimmune thyroid antibodies than among those without. I'm not sure what that means, but I find it interesting to wonder about. Which came first? The autoimmune condition or the allergy/intolerance? OR did adrenal/cortisol problems come even earlier and pre-dispose to everything? sol Jim Witte wrote: > I read somewhere that people *cannot* have allergies to iodine, as > it's simply an element. What they can have is allergies to various > proteins that contain it - I think it might have mentioned the iodine > carrier proteins. Val, what do you know about iodine allergy? > > Jim . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 , You likely need to get your HC up in order to tolerate increasing thyroid meds. Yes, your labs show hypo. The T3 isn't getting into the cells (likely due to low cortisol). Cheri -----Original Message----- Well. I sure am a classic example of a hypo person with a TSH showing Hyper. My TSH is .22 right now and I am very hypothyroid and trying to tolerate thyroid hormone and get myself well. My free T3 is very low and my reverse T3 is very high. Dr. Friedman says the only way to diagnose hypothyroidism in his opinion is Reverse T3 which will be high and free T3 which will be low end of normal range. This is how my labs are. The TSH test has killed thousands of people and causes horrible needless suffering. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes T3 does break down into T2 adn T1. But the iodine that is released wsi what is neeed for your body to function so should not cause you any problems. It is that iodine that keep s cancers away and keeps the goiters away too. I have not truly understood the need for exogenous iodine when you are taking thyroid hormones alread that are made of iodine. THYROID is how the body utilizes the iodine in the body to do it's work. Though I am not certain the actions and reactions have bene tracked that far, it would explain why there is thyroid hormone in every tissue and oragn and gland in the body. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes T3 does break down into T2 adn T1. But the iodine that is released wsi what is neeed for your body to function so should not cause you any problems. It is that iodine that keep s cancers away and keeps the goiters away too. I have not truly understood the need for exogenous iodine when you are taking thyroid hormones alread that are made of iodine. THYROID is how the body utilizes the iodine in the body to do it's work. Though I am not certain the actions and reactions have bene tracked that far, it would explain why there is thyroid hormone in every tissue and oragn and gland in the body. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes T3 does break down into T2 adn T1. But the iodine that is released wsi what is neeed for your body to function so should not cause you any problems. It is that iodine that keep s cancers away and keeps the goiters away too. I have not truly understood the need for exogenous iodine when you are taking thyroid hormones alread that are made of iodine. THYROID is how the body utilizes the iodine in the body to do it's work. Though I am not certain the actions and reactions have bene tracked that far, it would explain why there is thyroid hormone in every tissue and oragn and gland in the body. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I think the difference being that nickel hasn't been proven to be essential for human health, animals yes, but not humans. Allergies are tricky, the threshold in particular. Just because one reacts to a particular substance doesn't necessarily mean that one particular substance is the allergy. The body has just met it's threshold at that point and starts to react. Just by removing the item that is thought to cause the reaction lowers the threshold but does not necessarily mean that you've solved the puzzle. Allergies, autoimmune problems, adrenal, thryoid, hormone, etc. all link to gut problems, all boiled down basically to toxicity. That boils down to what we put in our bodies for food, meds, supplements, personal care products, etc. Allergies in particular are related to dairy and gluten, eliminating those can bring about huge changes in one's health. The body doesn't attack itself for no reason. We are eating things that confuse our bodies, the similarities in some proteins in foods are confused by the body and cause the autoimmunity problem. The body makes a mistake IOW, confused by the similarity and starts attacking it's self. Casein proteins are related to developing Type 1 diabetes, gluten proteins are related to developing Hashi's, etc. What you want to do is stop the attack of the immune system, not cover it up. That's what we do with allergy meds, it's not curing anything, it's simply covering up the problem. As Dr. Tim O'Shea states, you hear a rattle in the car as you're driving down the road, so you turn up the radio to cover up the noise. Might make the sound go away but it doesn't fix the rattle. This is a good read on allergies: http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/allergies_reactivity.php For more info, I highly recommend Dr. T's site: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com Excellent references for reading materials there also. People can tell me all they want that addressing their diet hasn't done them any good. It won't convince me as I've seen first hand that it does work. Changing one's diet is not necessarily a quick fix. We've all been conditioned to believe that we can pop a pill and make everything better, it's what makes our medical system go around. Making real changes to a diet takes a while, sometimes a long while, it won't show up in a couple of days or maybe even not a few weeks or months. But if you stick with it, you'll see changes and then learn more that will help. EVERY cell in your body functions by what you put in your mouth and on your body. Why would we not address our diet first and foremost? That's enough for my soapbox today!! :-)) Linn > > Total BS. Haven't you also read that people cannot be hypothyroid with > nornal TSH? I wish people would quit telling other people what they can > and cannot be experiencing. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I think the difference being that nickel hasn't been proven to be essential for human health, animals yes, but not humans. Allergies are tricky, the threshold in particular. Just because one reacts to a particular substance doesn't necessarily mean that one particular substance is the allergy. The body has just met it's threshold at that point and starts to react. Just by removing the item that is thought to cause the reaction lowers the threshold but does not necessarily mean that you've solved the puzzle. Allergies, autoimmune problems, adrenal, thryoid, hormone, etc. all link to gut problems, all boiled down basically to toxicity. That boils down to what we put in our bodies for food, meds, supplements, personal care products, etc. Allergies in particular are related to dairy and gluten, eliminating those can bring about huge changes in one's health. The body doesn't attack itself for no reason. We are eating things that confuse our bodies, the similarities in some proteins in foods are confused by the body and cause the autoimmunity problem. The body makes a mistake IOW, confused by the similarity and starts attacking it's self. Casein proteins are related to developing Type 1 diabetes, gluten proteins are related to developing Hashi's, etc. What you want to do is stop the attack of the immune system, not cover it up. That's what we do with allergy meds, it's not curing anything, it's simply covering up the problem. As Dr. Tim O'Shea states, you hear a rattle in the car as you're driving down the road, so you turn up the radio to cover up the noise. Might make the sound go away but it doesn't fix the rattle. This is a good read on allergies: http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/allergies_reactivity.php For more info, I highly recommend Dr. T's site: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com Excellent references for reading materials there also. People can tell me all they want that addressing their diet hasn't done them any good. It won't convince me as I've seen first hand that it does work. Changing one's diet is not necessarily a quick fix. We've all been conditioned to believe that we can pop a pill and make everything better, it's what makes our medical system go around. Making real changes to a diet takes a while, sometimes a long while, it won't show up in a couple of days or maybe even not a few weeks or months. But if you stick with it, you'll see changes and then learn more that will help. EVERY cell in your body functions by what you put in your mouth and on your body. Why would we not address our diet first and foremost? That's enough for my soapbox today!! :-)) Linn > > Total BS. Haven't you also read that people cannot be hypothyroid with > nornal TSH? I wish people would quit telling other people what they can > and cannot be experiencing. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I think the difference being that nickel hasn't been proven to be essential for human health, animals yes, but not humans. Allergies are tricky, the threshold in particular. Just because one reacts to a particular substance doesn't necessarily mean that one particular substance is the allergy. The body has just met it's threshold at that point and starts to react. Just by removing the item that is thought to cause the reaction lowers the threshold but does not necessarily mean that you've solved the puzzle. Allergies, autoimmune problems, adrenal, thryoid, hormone, etc. all link to gut problems, all boiled down basically to toxicity. That boils down to what we put in our bodies for food, meds, supplements, personal care products, etc. Allergies in particular are related to dairy and gluten, eliminating those can bring about huge changes in one's health. The body doesn't attack itself for no reason. We are eating things that confuse our bodies, the similarities in some proteins in foods are confused by the body and cause the autoimmunity problem. The body makes a mistake IOW, confused by the similarity and starts attacking it's self. Casein proteins are related to developing Type 1 diabetes, gluten proteins are related to developing Hashi's, etc. What you want to do is stop the attack of the immune system, not cover it up. That's what we do with allergy meds, it's not curing anything, it's simply covering up the problem. As Dr. Tim O'Shea states, you hear a rattle in the car as you're driving down the road, so you turn up the radio to cover up the noise. Might make the sound go away but it doesn't fix the rattle. This is a good read on allergies: http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/allergies_reactivity.php For more info, I highly recommend Dr. T's site: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com Excellent references for reading materials there also. People can tell me all they want that addressing their diet hasn't done them any good. It won't convince me as I've seen first hand that it does work. Changing one's diet is not necessarily a quick fix. We've all been conditioned to believe that we can pop a pill and make everything better, it's what makes our medical system go around. Making real changes to a diet takes a while, sometimes a long while, it won't show up in a couple of days or maybe even not a few weeks or months. But if you stick with it, you'll see changes and then learn more that will help. EVERY cell in your body functions by what you put in your mouth and on your body. Why would we not address our diet first and foremost? That's enough for my soapbox today!! :-)) Linn > > Total BS. Haven't you also read that people cannot be hypothyroid with > nornal TSH? I wish people would quit telling other people what they can > and cannot be experiencing. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 >>I think the difference being that nickel hasn't been proven to be essential for human health, animals yes, but not humans. << Believe me, if animals need it, so do we. Our systems are more alike than differnt. I hate hearing when people dismiss things because it is not proven to be the same in human as animals. We ARE animals.. LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 >>I think the difference being that nickel hasn't been proven to be essential for human health, animals yes, but not humans. << Believe me, if animals need it, so do we. Our systems are more alike than differnt. I hate hearing when people dismiss things because it is not proven to be the same in human as animals. We ARE animals.. LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 >>I think the difference being that nickel hasn't been proven to be essential for human health, animals yes, but not humans. << Believe me, if animals need it, so do we. Our systems are more alike than differnt. I hate hearing when people dismiss things because it is not proven to be the same in human as animals. We ARE animals.. LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Great post, Linn. I agree about the toxicity. I know that is the bulk of my issue. Cheri -----Original Message----- Allergies, autoimmune problems, adrenal, thryoid, hormone, etc. all link to gut problems, all boiled down basically to toxicity. That boils down to what we put in our bodies for food, meds, supplements, personal care products, etc. http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/allergies_reactivity.p hp For more info, I highly recommend Dr. T's site: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com That's enough for my soapbox today!! :-)) Linn . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Not dismissing, I don't think the two are comparable. Linn > Believe me, if animals need it, so do we. Our systems are more alike than differnt. I hate hearing when people dismiss things because it is not proven to be the same in human as animals. We ARE animals.. LOL > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Lynn my background is in veterinary medicaine. Internal organs of other mammals are the same as ours except for size, and sligh tdifferences in species for adaptation to different foods. This is why the hormones form one animal work on another..liek pig thyroid for humans, and even mare hormones for humans for eatrogen. but that is another argument. But one thing I have learned we are more alike than different, and MOST things apply to humans in medicine that apply to animals. Hormones work exactly the same way. Enzymes and bacteria work the same way, and the endocrine system is the same as well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 LOL, no I meant the iodine and nickel, not humans and animals. :-)) Linn > > Lynn my background is in veterinary medicaine. Internal organs of other > mammals are the same as ours except for size, and sligh tdifferences in > species for adaptation to different foods. This is why the hormones form > one animal work on another..liek pig thyroid for humans, and even mare > hormones for humans for eatrogen. but that is another argument. But one > thing I have learned we are more alike than different, and MOST things > apply to humans in medicine that apply to animals. Hormones work exactly > the same way. Enzymes and bacteria work the same way, and the endocrine > system is the same as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 LOL, no I meant the iodine and nickel, not humans and animals. :-)) Linn > > Lynn my background is in veterinary medicaine. Internal organs of other > mammals are the same as ours except for size, and sligh tdifferences in > species for adaptation to different foods. This is why the hormones form > one animal work on another..liek pig thyroid for humans, and even mare > hormones for humans for eatrogen. but that is another argument. But one > thing I have learned we are more alike than different, and MOST things > apply to humans in medicine that apply to animals. Hormones work exactly > the same way. Enzymes and bacteria work the same way, and the endocrine > system is the same as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 LOL, no I meant the iodine and nickel, not humans and animals. :-)) Linn > > Lynn my background is in veterinary medicaine. Internal organs of other > mammals are the same as ours except for size, and sligh tdifferences in > species for adaptation to different foods. This is why the hormones form > one animal work on another..liek pig thyroid for humans, and even mare > hormones for humans for eatrogen. but that is another argument. But one > thing I have learned we are more alike than different, and MOST things > apply to humans in medicine that apply to animals. Hormones work exactly > the same way. Enzymes and bacteria work the same way, and the endocrine > system is the same as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 MsSquarepants wrote: > Sol, if you are taking thyroid medication though, you are getting iodine. Well, I KNOW that, didn't I say so? > I think that is why people are confused when you say you are allergic to > iodine. Confusion only arises when people don't realize that for every allergy in any person there is a " threshold " below which the histamine reaction is not set off. I get plenty of iodine. I jsut need to keep it below my reactive threshold. Which I basically can't do well enough to not need at least one dose of antihistamine daily. When I get iodined beyond that I need antihistamines much more often, and have to add in H2 blockers, etc. I have read of other " essential " substances that cause allergy in persons. And yeah, if the allergy is severe, and the person is very sensitive, sometimes that means if they can't take enough anti-allergy meds to stop the allergy, they die. People have DIED of iodine allergy. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 MsSquarepants wrote: > Sol, if you are taking thyroid medication though, you are getting iodine. Well, I KNOW that, didn't I say so? > I think that is why people are confused when you say you are allergic to > iodine. Confusion only arises when people don't realize that for every allergy in any person there is a " threshold " below which the histamine reaction is not set off. I get plenty of iodine. I jsut need to keep it below my reactive threshold. Which I basically can't do well enough to not need at least one dose of antihistamine daily. When I get iodined beyond that I need antihistamines much more often, and have to add in H2 blockers, etc. I have read of other " essential " substances that cause allergy in persons. And yeah, if the allergy is severe, and the person is very sensitive, sometimes that means if they can't take enough anti-allergy meds to stop the allergy, they die. People have DIED of iodine allergy. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 MsSquarepants wrote: > Sol, if you are taking thyroid medication though, you are getting iodine. Well, I KNOW that, didn't I say so? > I think that is why people are confused when you say you are allergic to > iodine. Confusion only arises when people don't realize that for every allergy in any person there is a " threshold " below which the histamine reaction is not set off. I get plenty of iodine. I jsut need to keep it below my reactive threshold. Which I basically can't do well enough to not need at least one dose of antihistamine daily. When I get iodined beyond that I need antihistamines much more often, and have to add in H2 blockers, etc. I have read of other " essential " substances that cause allergy in persons. And yeah, if the allergy is severe, and the person is very sensitive, sometimes that means if they can't take enough anti-allergy meds to stop the allergy, they die. People have DIED of iodine allergy. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 wrote: > Yes T3 does break down into T2 adn T1. But the iodine that is released > wsi what is neeed for your body to function so should not cause you any > problems. It is that iodine that keep s cancers away and keeps the > goiters away too. I have not truly understood the need for exogenous > iodine when you are taking thyroid hormones alread that are made of > iodine.THYROID is how the body utilizes the iodine in the body to do > it's work. Though I am not certain the actions and reactions have bene > tracked that far, it would explain why there is thyroid hormone in every > tissue and oragn and gland in the body. > Yes! that is all true! And it probably correlates with the fact I have had to be MORE rigorous in my normal avoidance of sources of iodine/iodide since going on thyroid meds and/or have had to take MORE antihistamines to stop the histamine release stimulated by any excess. I am on low iodine diet, not a zero iodine diet, which is impossible to do anyway. I think that is what I am not communicating well, I get plenty of iodine, and now get more from thyroid hormone intake, requiring more stringent measures to keep the rest of my intake below my histamine reaction threshold. By one doctor's estimate the average american diet (wahtever that is) contains 10 times the amount of iodine needed for health and life. AND comfirming what you wrote, I've noticed as I've raised my T3 dose, I'm more sensitive to sea salt than previously. I used to get away with a little Real Salt for a few days before it caught up with me. But now -- the last time I sprinkled a bit on my food, I started reacting within 20-30 min. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 wrote: > Yes T3 does break down into T2 adn T1. But the iodine that is released > wsi what is neeed for your body to function so should not cause you any > problems. It is that iodine that keep s cancers away and keeps the > goiters away too. I have not truly understood the need for exogenous > iodine when you are taking thyroid hormones alread that are made of > iodine.THYROID is how the body utilizes the iodine in the body to do > it's work. Though I am not certain the actions and reactions have bene > tracked that far, it would explain why there is thyroid hormone in every > tissue and oragn and gland in the body. > Yes! that is all true! And it probably correlates with the fact I have had to be MORE rigorous in my normal avoidance of sources of iodine/iodide since going on thyroid meds and/or have had to take MORE antihistamines to stop the histamine release stimulated by any excess. I am on low iodine diet, not a zero iodine diet, which is impossible to do anyway. I think that is what I am not communicating well, I get plenty of iodine, and now get more from thyroid hormone intake, requiring more stringent measures to keep the rest of my intake below my histamine reaction threshold. By one doctor's estimate the average american diet (wahtever that is) contains 10 times the amount of iodine needed for health and life. AND comfirming what you wrote, I've noticed as I've raised my T3 dose, I'm more sensitive to sea salt than previously. I used to get away with a little Real Salt for a few days before it caught up with me. But now -- the last time I sprinkled a bit on my food, I started reacting within 20-30 min. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.