Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL RE: Re: methimazole Half? I think about 90% of people. -----Original Message----- Agree - not all hyperthyroidism is caused by autoimmunity. But if it were caused by jealousy then about half of the US population would have it. LOL. Cathy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL RE: Re: methimazole Half? I think about 90% of people. -----Original Message----- Agree - not all hyperthyroidism is caused by autoimmunity. But if it were caused by jealousy then about half of the US population would have it. LOL. Cathy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 RT3 could be an ongoing factor in the inability to of T3 to bind to receptors, but methimazole wouldn't play a role in that. However, someone might have high Rt3 as a result of being hyper, because the body will convert T4 to RT3 as a protective mechanism when total T4 production is too high, or when the body can't absorb Ft3 for some reason. Also, I just checked and half life of methimazole is 3-6 HOURS. So much shorter than I originally guessed. Cathy > > , > > The action of methimazole is temporary, so it only impacts conversion > > while you take it. It has a half life of 3 or 4 days, so its out of > > your system very quickly. If the hypothyroidism is truly caused by > > methimazole, thyroid levels will increase after the person stops taking > > it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 RT3 could be an ongoing factor in the inability to of T3 to bind to receptors, but methimazole wouldn't play a role in that. However, someone might have high Rt3 as a result of being hyper, because the body will convert T4 to RT3 as a protective mechanism when total T4 production is too high, or when the body can't absorb Ft3 for some reason. Also, I just checked and half life of methimazole is 3-6 HOURS. So much shorter than I originally guessed. Cathy > > , > > The action of methimazole is temporary, so it only impacts conversion > > while you take it. It has a half life of 3 or 4 days, so its out of > > your system very quickly. If the hypothyroidism is truly caused by > > methimazole, thyroid levels will increase after the person stops taking > > it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 RT3 could be an ongoing factor in the inability to of T3 to bind to receptors, but methimazole wouldn't play a role in that. However, someone might have high Rt3 as a result of being hyper, because the body will convert T4 to RT3 as a protective mechanism when total T4 production is too high, or when the body can't absorb Ft3 for some reason. Also, I just checked and half life of methimazole is 3-6 HOURS. So much shorter than I originally guessed. Cathy > > , > > The action of methimazole is temporary, so it only impacts conversion > > while you take it. It has a half life of 3 or 4 days, so its out of > > your system very quickly. If the hypothyroidism is truly caused by > > methimazole, thyroid levels will increase after the person stops taking > > it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 But can't methimazole permanently lower your thyroid function and make you hypo if you weren't hyper to begin with and never should have been put on it? Re: methimazole RT3 could be an ongoing factor in the inability to of T3 to bind to receptors, but methimazole wouldn't play a role in that. However, someone might have high Rt3 as a result of being hyper, because the body will convert T4 to RT3 as a protective mechanism when total T4 production is too high, or when the body can't absorb Ft3 for some reason. Also, I just checked and half life of methimazole is 3-6 HOURS. So much shorter than I originally guessed. Cathy > > , > > The action of methimazole is temporary, so it only impacts conversion > > while you take it. It has a half life of 3 or 4 days, so its out of > > your system very quickly. If the hypothyroidism is truly caused by > > methimazole, thyroid levels will increase after the person stops taking > > it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 But can't methimazole permanently lower your thyroid function and make you hypo if you weren't hyper to begin with and never should have been put on it? Re: methimazole RT3 could be an ongoing factor in the inability to of T3 to bind to receptors, but methimazole wouldn't play a role in that. However, someone might have high Rt3 as a result of being hyper, because the body will convert T4 to RT3 as a protective mechanism when total T4 production is too high, or when the body can't absorb Ft3 for some reason. Also, I just checked and half life of methimazole is 3-6 HOURS. So much shorter than I originally guessed. Cathy > > , > > The action of methimazole is temporary, so it only impacts conversion > > while you take it. It has a half life of 3 or 4 days, so its out of > > your system very quickly. If the hypothyroidism is truly caused by > > methimazole, thyroid levels will increase after the person stops taking > > it. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I am jealous of cats and bunnies. I just think they are such beautiful animals and bunnies are so sweet and cats have such independent personalities but can be all warm and cuddly too. I think I would like to be a cat. -----Original Message----- Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I am jealous of cats and bunnies. I just think they are such beautiful animals and bunnies are so sweet and cats have such independent personalities but can be all warm and cuddly too. I think I would like to be a cat. -----Original Message----- Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 That's just too funny because my beau and I sit and watch our cats and say we want to be them in our next life!! LOL RE: Re: methimazole I am jealous of cats and bunnies. I just think they are such beautiful animals and bunnies are so sweet and cats have such independent personalities but can be all warm and cuddly too. I think I would like to be a cat. -----Original Message----- Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 That's just too funny because my beau and I sit and watch our cats and say we want to be them in our next life!! LOL RE: Re: methimazole I am jealous of cats and bunnies. I just think they are such beautiful animals and bunnies are so sweet and cats have such independent personalities but can be all warm and cuddly too. I think I would like to be a cat. -----Original Message----- Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 That's just too funny because my beau and I sit and watch our cats and say we want to be them in our next life!! LOL RE: Re: methimazole I am jealous of cats and bunnies. I just think they are such beautiful animals and bunnies are so sweet and cats have such independent personalities but can be all warm and cuddly too. I think I would like to be a cat. -----Original Message----- Now Now, what are we all so jealous about? LOL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 " Gikas " wrote: > But can't methimazole permanently lower your thyroid function and make you hypo if you weren't hyper to begin with and never should have been put on it? I think it's temporary, which is why you would keep taking it over and over. Radioactive iodine is permanent. One treatment and most times you're hypo for life. The third option when hyper is surgical removal of the thyroid. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 So you mean when Grave's patients go hypo from anti-thyroid drugs, it's only temporary? I heard people can go permanently hypo from these drugs. Re: methimazole " Gikas " wrote: > But can't methimazole permanently lower your thyroid function and make you hypo if you weren't hyper to begin with and never should have been put on it? I think it's temporary, which is why you would keep taking it over and over. Radioactive iodine is permanent. One treatment and most times you're hypo for life. The third option when hyper is surgical removal of the thyroid. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 >>By definition the diagnosis of Graves is high TSI antibodies accompanied by over range T4 and T3. If you don't and never had those antibodies, you didn't technically have Graves, although you may have become hyperthyroid for some other reason. The treatment is same, but if the cause isn't autoimmune, its usually transient and resolves at some point.>> Actually, I never had antibodies and I never had over range T4 and T3. I had a rapidly declining TSH which I know from this group probably doesn't mean much....I've wondered since becoming familiar with cortisol issues if I wasn't really having adrenal problems....this was a long time ago, however, and I have been treated for hypo for a couple of years. >>If you are hypo now though, I would suspect that is caused by antibodies, and potentially your TSI test was botched, OR the doc gave you the wrong test, which also happens. If you have those labs, let's take look? Cathy>> Great! Which labs? I've got tons! No presence of antibodies ever detected on any of them. But let me check...which ones should I post? Thanks Cathy, Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 >>I'll jump in here since I've read Shomon's book, " Living Well with Grave's Disease " . Autoimmunity is not the only cause of hyperthyroidism. It can be caused by nodules that are overproducing or other factors.>> I have nodules, and I did when I was dx'ed with hyperT about 8 years ago. I still have nodules only now I'm hypo. >>Meanwhile, incase you're interested in some energetic/mental emotional stuff, hyperthyroidism in that respect can be caused by " feeling left out " or " jealous " . Boy I can see Val's face now when she reads this!! LOL>> LOL! I'm not sure what to make of that, I've heard many things about thyroid problems and the emotions. Very interesting stuff. Thanks ! Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yes - they don't cause permanent hypothyroidism. They have a very short active period. Cathy > > So you mean when Grave's patients go hypo from anti-thyroid drugs, it's only temporary? I heard people can go permanently hypo from these drugs. > > > Re: methimazole > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 ! AHA! I thought I read that here, sorry not to have remembered who it was it happened to. I'm quite sure you are glad to be rid of the cancer, I only mentioned it in the interest of information. Did you know that oculd happen before your surgery? I'm a huge believer in true and complete " informed consent " sol GrammyDx2 wrote: > That would be moi. > But I'm thankful to be rid of my cancer. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Do you have more recent tests - any recent blood antibody tests you can share? But your theory on low cortisol could cause mild hypo, and even a goiter with nodules. Iodine defiency could cause that too. Cathy I had no antibodies > at the time and I still don't! > > >>It sounds like they diagnosed you based on TSH. What a joke.>> > > oh, they definitely did, all my other tests were in range so they called > it 'subclinical hyperthyroidism'. > > From my reading on this board, I now think I was prob. struggling with > low cortisol. If I had been treated with hc then, I wonder how much > better my health would be today....although I did have an enlarged > thyroid with nodules...what do you think that was? > > Cathy>> > > Dahlia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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