Re: Maternal second-cousin: Generalized Joint/Muscle pain, fatigue,

[Guest guest]

>

> Give it a good 3 weeks. If you currently use alot of dairy, you'll

> notice a difference just cutting way down, so minute amounts of

> butter probably won't make a difference

I agree. Also the OP might want to replace cow dairy products with

goat dairy products (which I honestly think taste much better anyway).

She might get most bang per buck by eliminating cow but letting herself

have some goat, eg goat butter. Benefits without feelings of

deprivation :-)

Rosie/5

[Guest guest]

If your body is developing antibodies to casein that is causing an

autoimmune reaction such as joint inflammation and/or hypothyroid for

example, ANY casein is going to cause those antibodies to get

activated, whether from cow or goat. This is not the same thing as

lactose intolerance at all.

Liz

> >

> > Give it a good 3 weeks. If you currently use alot of dairy,

you'll

> > notice a difference just cutting way down, so minute amounts of

> > butter probably won't make a difference

>

> I agree. Also the OP might want to replace cow dairy products with

> goat dairy products (which I honestly think taste much better

anyway).

> She might get most bang per buck by eliminating cow but letting

herself

> have some goat, eg goat butter. Benefits without feelings of

> deprivation :-)

>

> Rosie/5

>

[Guest guest]

Fat has nothing to do with casein content--casein is the protein.

People with casein sensitivity should avoid all dairy, including

whey...due to cross contamination of the milk proteins. Again, if the

issue is one you feel such as joint pain, if you go without all dairy

for 3 weeks and then try some, you will notice how your body is

responding usually within a day or even hours. That doesn't mean the

body isn't having a problem though. I am pretty lax with ingredients

like butter in gluten free cookies for example becasue I don't feel

the effects...but I have a feeling the antibodies are reacting in my

body so I really shouldn't mess with it!

Liz

> > The biggies are cheese, ice cream, milk, and somewhat

> > yogurt.

>

[Guest guest]

Fat has nothing to do with casein content--casein is the protein.

People with casein sensitivity should avoid all dairy, including

whey...due to cross contamination of the milk proteins. Again, if the

issue is one you feel such as joint pain, if you go without all dairy

for 3 weeks and then try some, you will notice how your body is

responding usually within a day or even hours. That doesn't mean the

body isn't having a problem though. I am pretty lax with ingredients

like butter in gluten free cookies for example becasue I don't feel

the effects...but I have a feeling the antibodies are reacting in my

body so I really shouldn't mess with it!

Liz

> > The biggies are cheese, ice cream, milk, and somewhat

> > yogurt.

>

[Guest guest]

Fat has nothing to do with casein content--casein is the protein.

People with casein sensitivity should avoid all dairy, including

whey...due to cross contamination of the milk proteins. Again, if the

issue is one you feel such as joint pain, if you go without all dairy

for 3 weeks and then try some, you will notice how your body is

responding usually within a day or even hours. That doesn't mean the

body isn't having a problem though. I am pretty lax with ingredients

like butter in gluten free cookies for example becasue I don't feel

the effects...but I have a feeling the antibodies are reacting in my

body so I really shouldn't mess with it!

Liz

> > The biggies are cheese, ice cream, milk, and somewhat

> > yogurt.

>