RE: "You don't have a thyroid problem"

[Guest guest]

Very cold hands and feet year round = need natural

thyroid or considering Rt3 may need only T3 till

clearance? BUT must have adrenal problems addresses FIRST

fine tremor throughout entire body,= may be adrenal

reaction by sending out adrenalin when thyroid isn't

responding sufficiently?

night sweats sometimes = may be adrenalin causing it

because thyroid isnt getting into tissues, and

adrenal glands are trying to substitute for failing

thyroid?

RT3 462 pmol/L Range ( 170 - 450 = seems WAY high!

RT3 seems to be the main problem and according to

this group seems natural thyroid will not help you

till you clear out all the RT3

------- Original Message -------

From : waynemathieson

Sent : 6/14/2010 11:05:27 PM

To : RT3_T3

Cc :

Subject : RE: " You don't have a thyroid problem "

" You don't have a thyroid problem " said my high

profile natural doctor in whom I had placed such high

hopes, up to this point. This was his considered

advice when I suggested to him that I beieve that I

have a RT3 thyroid problem, This was really the last

straw for me as I have been bouncing around within

the allopathic medical system for the last 5 years

without a creditable answer or diagnosis of my

problem(s).

That's when I discovered this RT3_T3 board. What a

welcomed gift!

I have now been monitoring the posts on this

obviously well informed board for some time and I

have formed an opinion of what my problem is. I am

going to post my details here and hopefully I will

receive some advice and confirmation of my situation

from the savvy posters here.

Here goes:

Male 59 years 182 cm or 6' tall

73 kilograms or 165 lbs

Reasonably fit attending gym 5 nights weekly for

running and weights

Vegetarian eating seafood and eggs

Symptons

Very cold hands and feet year round, general unwell

feeling, muscle spasms, fine tremor throughout entire

body, episodes of higher Blood pressure, Parasthesiae

in hands, low free testosterone not reacting to

supplementation, night sweats sometimes, unstable

temps under 37 (98.6)

I have 2 excel files of Dr Rinds Temperature graphs.

One is my Basal waking and the other is daily

averaged. How do I post these for comment?

The equivalents below are my conversion calculations

to make it easier, so may be subject to mistakes.

Lab results

Thyroid

TSH 1.0 mU/L Range ( 0.40 - 4.00)

free T3 5.0 pmol/L Range ( 2.8 - 6.8) equiv 325 pg/dL

free T4 17 pmol/L Range ( 10 - 20) equiv 13 ng/dL

RT3 462 pmol/L Range ( 170 - 450)

FT3/RT3 Ratio 10.82 (my calculation)

Iron binding studies

Serum iron 29 umol/L Range ( 10 - 33) equiv 162 ug/dL

Transferrin IBC 66 umol/L Range (45 - 70) equiv

369 ug/dL

Transferrin saturation 44% Range ( 16 - 50)

Serum ferritin assay 42 ug/L Range ( 20 - 320)

equiv 42 ng/mL

Sex hormones

DHEA 2300 ng/mL Range (300 - 2700) (taking 25mg

DHEA daily)

ACTH 24 ng/L Range ( 5 - 50) equiv 109 pg/mL

Cortisol (9.45am) 360 nmol/L Range ( 190 - 610)

equiv 12.96 ug/dL

Oestradiol 131 pmol/L Range ( 40 - 250) equiv 36 pg/mL

Testosterone total 22 nmol/L Range (10 - 33) equiv

633.6 ng/dL

Testosterone free 29 pmol/L Range ( 40 - 100)

equiv 8.36 pg/mL

Prolactin 5 ug/L Range (< 15)

Vit B12 354 pmol/L Range (162 - 811) equiv 479.7 pg/mL

Serum Folate 35.4 nmol/L Range (8.4 - 55.0) equiv

15.62 ng/mL

Red Cell Folate 556 nmol/L Range ( 545 - 3370)

equiv 245.37 ng/mL

Vit D3 25 Hydroxy 160 nmol/L Range (50 - 300)

equiv 64.1 ng/mL

Homocysteine 11 umol/L Range (0.00 - 15.00) equiv

1.49 mg/L

Forgive me for the length of this post but I just

need to get everything out there for completeness.

The big question is what do I do now. Hopefully I

will receive some valuable advice and guidance from

this informed community. Who knows I might be able to

go back to my " high profile natural doctor " and give

him some friendly advice, courtesy of the RT3_T3

community.

Kindest regards and warmest thanks

[Guest guest]

Hunter wow thank you for this information.

You have given me some hope that I might some day rid myself of these cold hands

and feet as well as this annoying body tremor.

First question is how do I recognise that I have adrenal problems?

I have a whole raft of blood tests including Cortisol,ACTH, Adrenaline,

noradrenaline, metadrenaline, normetadrenaline which seem to be basically in

range from memory but I will recheck now. I also have 2 Dr. Rind temperature

graphs which I am attempting to post maybe tomorrow. Would these results and

graphs reveal my adrenal status? Which means I should post them on the Adrenal

board when I join I guess.

Yes my RT3 is way too high and once I have raised my ferritin levels up I will

be attempting to clear my RT3 with T3.

Kind regards

Wayne

>

> Very cold hands and feet year round = need natural

> thyroid or considering Rt3 may need only T3 till

> clearance? BUT must have adrenal problems addresses FIRST

>

> fine tremor throughout entire body,= may be adrenal

> reaction by sending out adrenalin when thyroid isn't

> responding sufficiently?

>

> night sweats sometimes = may be adrenalin causing it

> because thyroid isnt getting into tissues, and

> adrenal glands are trying to substitute for failing

> thyroid?

>

> RT3 462 pmol/L Range ( 170 - 450 = seems WAY high!

>

> RT3 seems to be the main problem and according to

> this group seems natural thyroid will not help you

> till you clear out all the RT3

>

>

>

> ------- Original Message -------

> From : waynemathieson

> Sent : 6/14/2010 11:05:27 PM

> To : RT3_T3

> Cc :

> Subject : RE: " You don't have a thyroid problem "

>

>

> " You don't have a thyroid problem " said my high

> profile natural doctor in whom I had placed such high

> hopes, up to this point. This was his considered

> advice when I suggested to him that I beieve that I

> have a RT3 thyroid problem, This was really the last

> straw for me as I have been bouncing around within

> the allopathic medical system for the last 5 years

> without a creditable answer or diagnosis of my

> problem(s).

> That's when I discovered this RT3_T3 board. What a

> welcomed gift!

> I have now been monitoring the posts on this

> obviously well informed board for some time and I

> have formed an opinion of what my problem is. I am

> going to post my details here and hopefully I will

> receive some advice and confirmation of my situation

> from the savvy posters here.

> Here goes:

> Male 59 years 182 cm or 6' tall

> 73 kilograms or 165 lbs

> Reasonably fit attending gym 5 nights weekly for

> running and weights

> Vegetarian eating seafood and eggs

>

> Symptons

> Very cold hands and feet year round, general unwell

> feeling, muscle spasms, fine tremor throughout entire

> body, episodes of higher Blood pressure, Parasthesiae

> in hands, low free testosterone not reacting to

> supplementation, night sweats sometimes, unstable

> temps under 37 (98.6)

> I have 2 excel files of Dr Rinds Temperature graphs.

> One is my Basal waking and the other is daily

> averaged. How do I post these for comment?

>

> The equivalents below are my conversion calculations

> to make it easier, so may be subject to mistakes.

> Lab results

> Thyroid

> TSH 1.0 mU/L Range ( 0.40 - 4.00)

> free T3 5.0 pmol/L Range ( 2.8 - 6.8) equiv 325 pg/dL

> free T4 17 pmol/L Range ( 10 - 20) equiv 13 ng/dL

> RT3 462 pmol/L Range ( 170 - 450)

> FT3/RT3 Ratio 10.82 (my calculation)

> Iron binding studies

> Serum iron 29 umol/L Range ( 10 - 33) equiv 162 ug/dL

> Transferrin IBC 66 umol/L Range (45 - 70) equiv

> 369 ug/dL

> Transferrin saturation 44% Range ( 16 - 50)

> Serum ferritin assay 42 ug/L Range ( 20 - 320)

> equiv 42 ng/mL

> Sex hormones

> DHEA 2300 ng/mL Range (300 - 2700) (taking 25mg

> DHEA daily)

> ACTH 24 ng/L Range ( 5 - 50) equiv 109 pg/mL

> Cortisol (9.45am) 360 nmol/L Range ( 190 - 610)

> equiv 12.96 ug/dL

> Oestradiol 131 pmol/L Range ( 40 - 250) equiv 36 pg/mL

> Testosterone total 22 nmol/L Range (10 - 33) equiv

> 633.6 ng/dL

> Testosterone free 29 pmol/L Range ( 40 - 100)

> equiv 8.36 pg/mL

> Prolactin 5 ug/L Range (< 15)

> Vit B12 354 pmol/L Range (162 - 811) equiv 479.7 pg/mL

> Serum Folate 35.4 nmol/L Range (8.4 - 55.0) equiv

> 15.62 ng/mL

> Red Cell Folate 556 nmol/L Range ( 545 - 3370)

> equiv 245.37 ng/mL

> Vit D3 25 Hydroxy 160 nmol/L Range (50 - 300)

> equiv 64.1 ng/mL

> Homocysteine 11 umol/L Range (0.00 - 15.00) equiv

> 1.49 mg/L

> Forgive me for the length of this post but I just

> need to get everything out there for completeness.

> The big question is what do I do now. Hopefully I

> will receive some valuable advice and guidance from

> this informed community. Who knows I might be able to

> go back to my " high profile natural doctor " and give

> him some friendly advice, courtesy of the RT3_T3

> community.

> Kindest regards and warmest thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Wayne

I don't know if you have done the salivary cortisol x4 but that will show you

how your adrenals are functioning at 4 different times during the day. It will

show if your adrenals are high all day, low all day or a mixture of both. I am

in Aus. and you can get this test done through a couple of labs here but you

will have to get a GP or naturopath to sign off on the test. I had this done in

Feb and it showed that my adrenals were too high (probably caused my Rt3 along

with low ferrtin). I am just about to do it again to see where I am at now.

Good luck.

Kat

> >

> > Very cold hands and feet year round = need natural

> > thyroid or considering Rt3 may need only T3 till

> > clearance? BUT must have adrenal problems addresses FIRST

> >

> > fine tremor throughout entire body,= may be adrenal

> > reaction by sending out adrenalin when thyroid isn't

> > responding sufficiently?

> >

> > night sweats sometimes = may be adrenalin causing it

> > because thyroid isnt getting into tissues, and

> > adrenal glands are trying to substitute for failing

> > thyroid?

> >

> > RT3 462 pmol/L Range ( 170 - 450 = seems WAY high!

> >

> > RT3 seems to be the main problem and according to

> > this group seems natural thyroid will not help you

> > till you clear out all the RT3

> >

> >

> >

> > ------- Original Message -------

> > From : waynemathieson[mailto:waynemathieson@]

> > Sent : 6/14/2010 11:05:27 PM

> > To : RT3_T3

> > Cc :

> > Subject : RE: " You don't have a thyroid problem "

> >

> >

> > " You don't have a thyroid problem " said my high

> > profile natural doctor in whom I had placed such high

> > hopes, up to this point. This was his considered

> > advice when I suggested to him that I beieve that I

> > have a RT3 thyroid problem, This was really the last

> > straw for me as I have been bouncing around within

> > the allopathic medical system for the last 5 years

> > without a creditable answer or diagnosis of my

> > problem(s).

> > That's when I discovered this RT3_T3 board. What a

> > welcomed gift!

> > I have now been monitoring the posts on this

> > obviously well informed board for some time and I

> > have formed an opinion of what my problem is. I am

> > going to post my details here and hopefully I will

> > receive some advice and confirmation of my situation

> > from the savvy posters here.

> > Here goes:

> > Male 59 years 182 cm or 6' tall

> > 73 kilograms or 165 lbs

> > Reasonably fit attending gym 5 nights weekly for

> > running and weights

> > Vegetarian eating seafood and eggs

> >

> > Symptons

> > Very cold hands and feet year round, general unwell

> > feeling, muscle spasms, fine tremor throughout entire

> > body, episodes of higher Blood pressure, Parasthesiae

> > in hands, low free testosterone not reacting to

> > supplementation, night sweats sometimes, unstable

> > temps under 37 (98.6)

> > I have 2 excel files of Dr Rinds Temperature graphs.

> > One is my Basal waking and the other is daily

> > averaged. How do I post these for comment?

> >

> > The equivalents below are my conversion calculations

> > to make it easier, so may be subject to mistakes.

> > Lab results

> > Thyroid

> > TSH 1.0 mU/L Range ( 0.40 - 4.00)

> > free T3 5.0 pmol/L Range ( 2.8 - 6.8) equiv 325 pg/dL

> > free T4 17 pmol/L Range ( 10 - 20) equiv 13 ng/dL

> > RT3 462 pmol/L Range ( 170 - 450)

> > FT3/RT3 Ratio 10.82 (my calculation)

> > Iron binding studies

> > Serum iron 29 umol/L Range ( 10 - 33) equiv 162 ug/dL

> > Transferrin IBC 66 umol/L Range (45 - 70) equiv

> > 369 ug/dL

> > Transferrin saturation 44% Range ( 16 - 50)

> > Serum ferritin assay 42 ug/L Range ( 20 - 320)

> > equiv 42 ng/mL

> > Sex hormones

> > DHEA 2300 ng/mL Range (300 - 2700) (taking 25mg

> > DHEA daily)

> > ACTH 24 ng/L Range ( 5 - 50) equiv 109 pg/mL

> > Cortisol (9.45am) 360 nmol/L Range ( 190 - 610)

> > equiv 12.96 ug/dL

> > Oestradiol 131 pmol/L Range ( 40 - 250) equiv 36 pg/mL

> > Testosterone total 22 nmol/L Range (10 - 33) equiv

> > 633.6 ng/dL

> > Testosterone free 29 pmol/L Range ( 40 - 100)

> > equiv 8.36 pg/mL

> > Prolactin 5 ug/L Range (< 15)

> > Vit B12 354 pmol/L Range (162 - 811) equiv 479.7 pg/mL

> > Serum Folate 35.4 nmol/L Range (8.4 - 55.0) equiv

> > 15.62 ng/mL

> > Red Cell Folate 556 nmol/L Range ( 545 - 3370)

> > equiv 245.37 ng/mL

> > Vit D3 25 Hydroxy 160 nmol/L Range (50 - 300)

> > equiv 64.1 ng/mL

> > Homocysteine 11 umol/L Range (0.00 - 15.00) equiv

> > 1.49 mg/L

> > Forgive me for the length of this post but I just

> > need to get everything out there for completeness.

> > The big question is what do I do now. Hopefully I

> > will receive some valuable advice and guidance from

> > this informed community. Who knows I might be able to

> > go back to my " high profile natural doctor " and give

> > him some friendly advice, courtesy of the RT3_T3

> > community.

> > Kindest regards and warmest thanks

> >

>