Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Welcome! Look way down in the text of your message for my comments.... > > I'm hoping someone who has gone through all of this before and gotten > good results can give me some advice about what proper steps to take. ok > There is so much conflicting information coming from my doctors and > what is written in Cutler's book. > I found exactly the same thing when I was removing my amalgams. By trying some of the doctor treatments, and getting extremely ill, several times, I learned the hard way that Andy is right about all the important things. Reading reports in these groups confirms over and over again that Andy is right. Mercury chelation is sort of an underground topic because it is mostly dentists doctors and pharmaceutical companies who are poisoning people. Doctor's who do recognize that the problem exists are generally misinformed about how to treat it safely. Doctors haven't been trained in how to read, understand and interpret the relevant scientific literature... most wouldn't even be able to find it. So they listen to rumor started by people who are out for profit. Andy was trained how to read, understand and interpret the science and he does a better job of it than most scientists. He studied the topic inside out when he was deciding how to chelate himself to get better. Since then he continues to study everything and listens to thousands of toxic people. > Here's my situation: > > I have 12 amalgams in my mouth. > > I did the DMPS challenge test (before i read Cutler's book) with > my naturopath and scored an 82 where the safe range is below 3. > > I have lots of symptoms and have been sick for the past eight months. > Symptoms have included numbness, dizziness, vertigo, an awful tense or > vibrating feeling, brain fog, heat and sun sensitivity etc. > > My biggest question right now is how and when to get the fillings out. > > My naturopath says do monthly DMPS No. Never, ever take any chelator and anything anyone claims will chelate with amalgams in..... no and wait 6 months until my levels > come down before I give myself a good shot of mercury when I get them > removed and then do it by quadrant. > > My doctor says get them out as fast as possible. How fast to take them out depends on how serious your medical condition is. The more serious, the more ill you are, the slower you go. It is most important to find the right dentist who will protect you during amalgam removal and who will place the composites properly. > He has given me > chlorella, NO > MSM, NO >>ALA, NO >> and recommended a high sulfur/ no, no, no >protein diet along > with EDTA intravenous chelation. no, no, no (all contraindicated in Andy's book > andfor good reason I think because they made me worse even after only > taking 3 doses of just the MSM and ALA) > > I want to follow the Cutler protocol after the fillings are out but not > sure the best schedule to do that. Recent;y my health has stabilized > somewhat and >I am afraid to take anything out and get worse. If you find the right dentist your exposure during removal will be minimal. > At the > same time I don't want to continually poison myself and know they have > to come out in the end anyway. > > Has anyone found their way out of a similar situation? Or have some > good advice as to how and when to go about the amalgam removal? > Through consultation with my dentist we decided to do one quadrant at a time separated by about a month to 6 weeks. This worked good for me. I had vitamin C IV with every removal. I was more anxious that I needed to be. He had 14 years experience with mercury free dentistry. J > Thanks for any advice in advance. > > T* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Welcome! Look way down in the text of your message for my comments.... > > I'm hoping someone who has gone through all of this before and gotten > good results can give me some advice about what proper steps to take. ok > There is so much conflicting information coming from my doctors and > what is written in Cutler's book. > I found exactly the same thing when I was removing my amalgams. By trying some of the doctor treatments, and getting extremely ill, several times, I learned the hard way that Andy is right about all the important things. Reading reports in these groups confirms over and over again that Andy is right. Mercury chelation is sort of an underground topic because it is mostly dentists doctors and pharmaceutical companies who are poisoning people. Doctor's who do recognize that the problem exists are generally misinformed about how to treat it safely. Doctors haven't been trained in how to read, understand and interpret the relevant scientific literature... most wouldn't even be able to find it. So they listen to rumor started by people who are out for profit. Andy was trained how to read, understand and interpret the science and he does a better job of it than most scientists. He studied the topic inside out when he was deciding how to chelate himself to get better. Since then he continues to study everything and listens to thousands of toxic people. > Here's my situation: > > I have 12 amalgams in my mouth. > > I did the DMPS challenge test (before i read Cutler's book) with > my naturopath and scored an 82 where the safe range is below 3. > > I have lots of symptoms and have been sick for the past eight months. > Symptoms have included numbness, dizziness, vertigo, an awful tense or > vibrating feeling, brain fog, heat and sun sensitivity etc. > > My biggest question right now is how and when to get the fillings out. > > My naturopath says do monthly DMPS No. Never, ever take any chelator and anything anyone claims will chelate with amalgams in..... no and wait 6 months until my levels > come down before I give myself a good shot of mercury when I get them > removed and then do it by quadrant. > > My doctor says get them out as fast as possible. How fast to take them out depends on how serious your medical condition is. The more serious, the more ill you are, the slower you go. It is most important to find the right dentist who will protect you during amalgam removal and who will place the composites properly. > He has given me > chlorella, NO > MSM, NO >>ALA, NO >> and recommended a high sulfur/ no, no, no >protein diet along > with EDTA intravenous chelation. no, no, no (all contraindicated in Andy's book > andfor good reason I think because they made me worse even after only > taking 3 doses of just the MSM and ALA) > > I want to follow the Cutler protocol after the fillings are out but not > sure the best schedule to do that. Recent;y my health has stabilized > somewhat and >I am afraid to take anything out and get worse. If you find the right dentist your exposure during removal will be minimal. > At the > same time I don't want to continually poison myself and know they have > to come out in the end anyway. > > Has anyone found their way out of a similar situation? Or have some > good advice as to how and when to go about the amalgam removal? > Through consultation with my dentist we decided to do one quadrant at a time separated by about a month to 6 weeks. This worked good for me. I had vitamin C IV with every removal. I was more anxious that I needed to be. He had 14 years experience with mercury free dentistry. J > Thanks for any advice in advance. > > T* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 T: " My biggest question right now is how and when to get the fillings out. " If you are stabilized, I would find a very good IAOMT dentist and try getting just one filling out and see how you do. If you do okay, you can consider getting more than one removed in each visit. You might not be able to tolerate an entire quadrant at one time. I think some people can only tolerate 1 filling removed every other month... You can start the recommended supplements now, but not any chelators (nor MSM, chlorella, etc.) until ALL fillings are replaced. -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 T: " My biggest question right now is how and when to get the fillings out. " If you are stabilized, I would find a very good IAOMT dentist and try getting just one filling out and see how you do. If you do okay, you can consider getting more than one removed in each visit. You might not be able to tolerate an entire quadrant at one time. I think some people can only tolerate 1 filling removed every other month... You can start the recommended supplements now, but not any chelators (nor MSM, chlorella, etc.) until ALL fillings are replaced. -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 T: " My biggest question right now is how and when to get the fillings out. " If you are stabilized, I would find a very good IAOMT dentist and try getting just one filling out and see how you do. If you do okay, you can consider getting more than one removed in each visit. You might not be able to tolerate an entire quadrant at one time. I think some people can only tolerate 1 filling removed every other month... You can start the recommended supplements now, but not any chelators (nor MSM, chlorella, etc.) until ALL fillings are replaced. -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 > > I'm hoping someone who has gone through all of this before and gotten > good results can give me some advice about what proper steps to take. > There is so much conflicting information coming from my doctors and > what is written in Cutler's book. > > Here's my situation: > > I have 12 amalgams in my mouth. > > I did the DMPS challenge test (before i read Cutler's book) with > my naturopath and scored an 82 where the safe range is below 3. > > I have lots of symptoms and have been sick for the past eight months. > Symptoms have included numbness, dizziness, vertigo, an awful tense or > vibrating feeling, brain fog, heat and sun sensitivity etc. > > My biggest question right now is how and when to get the fillings out. > , Your situation sounds so similar. (vibrations, tense, numbness, feeling of movement etc) Again I had 12 amalgams, some deep.(with oxygen by a mercury free dentist) I did react each time, but it was less each time too. The last quandrant was hardly noticeable in the increase symptoms. A wk before I took oral vit C in big doses - 10/12 g. also day before, day of and day after - activated charcoal. I did not take Vit c on the same day as removal before dental work because it can interfere with the freezing. I did a quandrant every three months. I did supplements ACE and selenium Lots of Vit C Calming adrenal support Acidophilus a really good multi that had other stuff andy suggests After each quadrant I would have a bad day 3,4,5 and generally start getting better. the first time was the longest. After three months I would be at a better level than when I first had the amalgams removed. I keep a calenar of symptoms and rate my days from 1-5 so I see trends of getting better after a month and a half and constistenly better days after three months. I did go cilantro for 5 months before I knew it was a no-no. I felt better off of it immediately. I am giving my body a break now and will start DMSA in two months. Colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 > Has anyone found their way out of a similar situation? Or have some > good advice as to how and when to go about the amalgam removal? I'm sure you are going to get a hundred replies that say NEVER, NEVER take a chelator when you have amalgam in your mouth, no matter who tells you. Start proper supplements as mentioned by Andy asap. Before you get your amalgams out get on some adrenal and thyroid support. If you can test properly get a hair test and full saliva hormone profile from DignosTechs. Most people I know crashed after amalgam removal because they did not support these glands first. Then although not mentioned in Andy's book I suggest you follow Dr Huggins protocol for mercury removal. 4 days later start with 12.5mg of DMSA every 4 hours for 3 days as per the Cutler protocol. Good luck, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Thanks for the advice. I am takinig many of the supplements advised in AI but no adrenal or thyroid support. Could you suggest something or is it as simple as going to the local health food store and getting something that says " thyro-support " or something? Also my doctor just prescribed me cortisol. Should I take this? Thanks! * > > > Has anyone found their way out of a similar situation? Or have some > > good advice as to how and when to go about the amalgam removal? > > > I'm sure you are going to get a hundred replies that say NEVER, NEVER take a > chelator when you have amalgam in your mouth, no matter who tells you. > > Start proper supplements as mentioned by Andy asap. > Before you get your amalgams out get on some adrenal and thyroid support. > If you can test properly get a hair test and full saliva hormone profile > from DignosTechs. > Most people I know crashed after amalgam removal because they did not > support these glands first. > Then although not mentioned in Andy's book I suggest you follow Dr Huggins > protocol for mercury removal. > 4 days later start with 12.5mg of DMSA every 4 hours for 3 days as per the > Cutler protocol. > Good luck, > Dean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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