Re: progress update and disturbing symptoms

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all - new to this board but have been on the adult metal

> chelation for a while.

>

> following andy's protocol while also doing DR ST Amand's guaifenesin

> protocol for fibromyalgia.

>

> i've been fibro for many years and managing fine on a low carb diet

> and the guaifensin protocol - was energatic, slim, i competed in

> dancing and went to school and was also an actor. but about a two

> and a half years ago i was living in a mercury contaminated house and

How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the source?

> basically fell apart. my mother convinced my to look into mercury

> poisoning and sent me Andy's book. when i first realized i had

> mercury these were my symptoms

>

> tingling numbness in face and hands

> horrible pain in feet

> pain in shins

> rapid weight gain

> drooling

> anxiety attacks-

> obsessive thinking

> inability to make decisions

> fear of crowds or fast moving objects

> anti-social, withdrawal

> puffiness all over mainly in legs and feet

> digestive issues - whole food coming through bowel

> yeast in gut

> wierd sweating - i never really sweat my whole life

> achey but sharp pain in side of back above hips - thought it might be

> kidney - but don't know

> pain, muscle tensness - especially in neck and back

> bad sleep

> lack of motivation, ability to complete tasks

>

> I am much better now - most pain is gone. my thryoid isn't working

> and i struggle day to day to figure out what it needs (i have to take

> a huge amount of thyroid med to get an effect - but i sem to be hyper

> and hypo at the same time sometimes - tried T3 therapy - seems to

> help for a little bit, then not). adrenals as well - but i am doing

> better on a lower dose of HC and other pills so i think thats getting

> better too. when chelating my eyesite go a little better esp at

> night. i have flare ups of yeast rarely now. digestion still an

> issue as are wierd thought patterns but i don't get the anxiety

> attacks like i used to. i'll have phases of drooling but these are

> gettting less.

>

> I have chelated off and on for about 2 years - when i started out i

> dosed myself too high and i hurt mysef and had to stop for a while.

> then i started with DMSA at low dose - i think 6 mg. very slowly i

> worked up, VERY slowly. for a while i couldn't tolerate ALA with the

> DMSA so i just did DMSA, then i added ala and chelated together for a

> while i think getting to 25mg of each per dose. DMSA started getting

> too expensive so i went to ALA only and have now worked up to 50 mg

> (just this last cycle). It was strange cause i had no symptoms

> during the round - usually i can smell the ALA in my urine and bowel

> but not this round. I don't know what that means.

>

> My biggest concern is that about two months ago all of a sudden my

> stomach started sticking out - i didn't gain any weight but its

> sticking out and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

make a difference.

If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

the lining of your gut.

> something I feel full pretty quickly and it pushes stomach out even

> further. i am very worried about it - i had an ultrasound and they

> didn't see anything but i am still getting bigger right in the front

> part of the tummy. (not pregnant - doctor checked that too.) also -

> i started burping all the time and regularly get hiccups now- this is

Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

> definitely out of the ordinary for me. also - i am getting up int he

> night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

> also wake in the morning with a swollen tongue and kind of dry

> mouth. for a while my ankle were so puffy again i couldn't move them.

>

> i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early stages

> of liver disease " fatty liver " can cause a roll of fat around the

> middle. i've taken a lot of supplements over the last two years and

> i'm worried that i've hurt it. when i press on my stomach it seems

> hard like there is somehting in there - again the doctor didn't find

> anything.

> does chelation hurt the liver at all? what can i do to identify if

> that's the issue? how can i help my liver? i take milk thistle but

> it doesn't seem to do much.

>

> two days ago my tummy seemed smaller (i've been trying to work out

> regularly) but yesterday i had to take some naproxen for cramps and

Naproxen and other NSAIDS can irritate the stomach. Be sure to take

these with a big glass of water and ideally with food. Don't lie

down immediately after taking them.

> now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

cause a lot of gas.

--

> any thoughts apprecciated. i'm going to have start wearing a corset!!

> esther

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all - new to this board but have been on the adult metal

> chelation for a while.

>

> following andy's protocol while also doing DR ST Amand's guaifenesin

> protocol for fibromyalgia.

>

> i've been fibro for many years and managing fine on a low carb diet

> and the guaifensin protocol - was energatic, slim, i competed in

> dancing and went to school and was also an actor. but about a two

> and a half years ago i was living in a mercury contaminated house and

How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the source?

> basically fell apart. my mother convinced my to look into mercury

> poisoning and sent me Andy's book. when i first realized i had

> mercury these were my symptoms

>

> tingling numbness in face and hands

> horrible pain in feet

> pain in shins

> rapid weight gain

> drooling

> anxiety attacks-

> obsessive thinking

> inability to make decisions

> fear of crowds or fast moving objects

> anti-social, withdrawal

> puffiness all over mainly in legs and feet

> digestive issues - whole food coming through bowel

> yeast in gut

> wierd sweating - i never really sweat my whole life

> achey but sharp pain in side of back above hips - thought it might be

> kidney - but don't know

> pain, muscle tensness - especially in neck and back

> bad sleep

> lack of motivation, ability to complete tasks

>

> I am much better now - most pain is gone. my thryoid isn't working

> and i struggle day to day to figure out what it needs (i have to take

> a huge amount of thyroid med to get an effect - but i sem to be hyper

> and hypo at the same time sometimes - tried T3 therapy - seems to

> help for a little bit, then not). adrenals as well - but i am doing

> better on a lower dose of HC and other pills so i think thats getting

> better too. when chelating my eyesite go a little better esp at

> night. i have flare ups of yeast rarely now. digestion still an

> issue as are wierd thought patterns but i don't get the anxiety

> attacks like i used to. i'll have phases of drooling but these are

> gettting less.

>

> I have chelated off and on for about 2 years - when i started out i

> dosed myself too high and i hurt mysef and had to stop for a while.

> then i started with DMSA at low dose - i think 6 mg. very slowly i

> worked up, VERY slowly. for a while i couldn't tolerate ALA with the

> DMSA so i just did DMSA, then i added ala and chelated together for a

> while i think getting to 25mg of each per dose. DMSA started getting

> too expensive so i went to ALA only and have now worked up to 50 mg

> (just this last cycle). It was strange cause i had no symptoms

> during the round - usually i can smell the ALA in my urine and bowel

> but not this round. I don't know what that means.

>

> My biggest concern is that about two months ago all of a sudden my

> stomach started sticking out - i didn't gain any weight but its

> sticking out and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

make a difference.

If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

the lining of your gut.

> something I feel full pretty quickly and it pushes stomach out even

> further. i am very worried about it - i had an ultrasound and they

> didn't see anything but i am still getting bigger right in the front

> part of the tummy. (not pregnant - doctor checked that too.) also -

> i started burping all the time and regularly get hiccups now- this is

Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

> definitely out of the ordinary for me. also - i am getting up int he

> night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

> also wake in the morning with a swollen tongue and kind of dry

> mouth. for a while my ankle were so puffy again i couldn't move them.

>

> i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early stages

> of liver disease " fatty liver " can cause a roll of fat around the

> middle. i've taken a lot of supplements over the last two years and

> i'm worried that i've hurt it. when i press on my stomach it seems

> hard like there is somehting in there - again the doctor didn't find

> anything.

> does chelation hurt the liver at all? what can i do to identify if

> that's the issue? how can i help my liver? i take milk thistle but

> it doesn't seem to do much.

>

> two days ago my tummy seemed smaller (i've been trying to work out

> regularly) but yesterday i had to take some naproxen for cramps and

Naproxen and other NSAIDS can irritate the stomach. Be sure to take

these with a big glass of water and ideally with food. Don't lie

down immediately after taking them.

> now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

cause a lot of gas.

--

> any thoughts apprecciated. i'm going to have start wearing a corset!!

> esther

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all - new to this board but have been on the adult metal

> chelation for a while.

>

> following andy's protocol while also doing DR ST Amand's guaifenesin

> protocol for fibromyalgia.

>

> i've been fibro for many years and managing fine on a low carb diet

> and the guaifensin protocol - was energatic, slim, i competed in

> dancing and went to school and was also an actor. but about a two

> and a half years ago i was living in a mercury contaminated house and

How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the source?

> basically fell apart. my mother convinced my to look into mercury

> poisoning and sent me Andy's book. when i first realized i had

> mercury these were my symptoms

>

> tingling numbness in face and hands

> horrible pain in feet

> pain in shins

> rapid weight gain

> drooling

> anxiety attacks-

> obsessive thinking

> inability to make decisions

> fear of crowds or fast moving objects

> anti-social, withdrawal

> puffiness all over mainly in legs and feet

> digestive issues - whole food coming through bowel

> yeast in gut

> wierd sweating - i never really sweat my whole life

> achey but sharp pain in side of back above hips - thought it might be

> kidney - but don't know

> pain, muscle tensness - especially in neck and back

> bad sleep

> lack of motivation, ability to complete tasks

>

> I am much better now - most pain is gone. my thryoid isn't working

> and i struggle day to day to figure out what it needs (i have to take

> a huge amount of thyroid med to get an effect - but i sem to be hyper

> and hypo at the same time sometimes - tried T3 therapy - seems to

> help for a little bit, then not). adrenals as well - but i am doing

> better on a lower dose of HC and other pills so i think thats getting

> better too. when chelating my eyesite go a little better esp at

> night. i have flare ups of yeast rarely now. digestion still an

> issue as are wierd thought patterns but i don't get the anxiety

> attacks like i used to. i'll have phases of drooling but these are

> gettting less.

>

> I have chelated off and on for about 2 years - when i started out i

> dosed myself too high and i hurt mysef and had to stop for a while.

> then i started with DMSA at low dose - i think 6 mg. very slowly i

> worked up, VERY slowly. for a while i couldn't tolerate ALA with the

> DMSA so i just did DMSA, then i added ala and chelated together for a

> while i think getting to 25mg of each per dose. DMSA started getting

> too expensive so i went to ALA only and have now worked up to 50 mg

> (just this last cycle). It was strange cause i had no symptoms

> during the round - usually i can smell the ALA in my urine and bowel

> but not this round. I don't know what that means.

>

> My biggest concern is that about two months ago all of a sudden my

> stomach started sticking out - i didn't gain any weight but its

> sticking out and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

make a difference.

If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

the lining of your gut.

> something I feel full pretty quickly and it pushes stomach out even

> further. i am very worried about it - i had an ultrasound and they

> didn't see anything but i am still getting bigger right in the front

> part of the tummy. (not pregnant - doctor checked that too.) also -

> i started burping all the time and regularly get hiccups now- this is

Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

> definitely out of the ordinary for me. also - i am getting up int he

> night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

> also wake in the morning with a swollen tongue and kind of dry

> mouth. for a while my ankle were so puffy again i couldn't move them.

>

> i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early stages

> of liver disease " fatty liver " can cause a roll of fat around the

> middle. i've taken a lot of supplements over the last two years and

> i'm worried that i've hurt it. when i press on my stomach it seems

> hard like there is somehting in there - again the doctor didn't find

> anything.

> does chelation hurt the liver at all? what can i do to identify if

> that's the issue? how can i help my liver? i take milk thistle but

> it doesn't seem to do much.

>

> two days ago my tummy seemed smaller (i've been trying to work out

> regularly) but yesterday i had to take some naproxen for cramps and

Naproxen and other NSAIDS can irritate the stomach. Be sure to take

these with a big glass of water and ideally with food. Don't lie

down immediately after taking them.

> now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

cause a lot of gas.

--

> any thoughts apprecciated. i'm going to have start wearing a corset!!

> esther

>

[Guest guest]

stephanie - thanks for responding - i tried to answer/comment.

How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the source?

to be more specific, my mother suspected i had had mercury poisoning

on a low grade from the time i was little as my behavior radically

changed after some shots when i was 4. she thought i was autistic. I

also used thimersol containing contact products for many years. and

shots ( i had a bad tick fever when i was eleven and i got shots twice

a week for seemed to me like months.)

the house i was living had a couple sources of contamination: open

bottle of mercurochrome (grandmother left it in the laundry room which

was over the dryer and i lived right next to it) these we don't know

for sure but my mom thinks were sources also: a giant antique mirror

with possible mercury backing, and an antique mirror in the bathroom

(this one had the date was prior to when they stopped making mirrors

with mercury ) and old paint. also, i was eating a huge amount of

tuna - 2 cans a day for a while there. i used to love tuna. i

wouldn't have thought this would be enough but...the whole time i

lived in that house

my face and hands/feet tingled and were numb, i started having pain in

my feet and legs and i started drooling in my sleep which i never in

my life have done. (ok maybe when i was a kid!)after about 3 months -

anxiety attacks, panic etc

and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

>

>

> This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

> but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

>

> If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

> fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

> make a difference.

i know that some of the sugar alcohols had laxative effects but this

feeling is different than that other feeling. plus i tolerate xylitol

well and stevia doesn't have that as a side effect. xylitol i thought

helped to kill yeast in the gut. i don't eat very much of them though

- every now and again i must have chocolate!

i suppose though that i can try these things and see if it gets

better. i take arginine and lysine to help with the gut and also take

coconut oil and probitoic and sometimes yogurt everyday too.

i am concerned about taking licorice though as i don't know how that

will affect my adrenals.

>

> If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

> ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

> help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

> the lining of your gut.

>

this feels different than the gas caused by sugar alcohols. wouldn't

excess stomach acid give me heart burn? i've never had heart burn...

>

> Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

also - i am getting up int he

> > night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

>

>

>

> I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

>

> >

> > i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early stages

>

> > now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> > night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> > though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> > could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

>

I should do some research on this.

> They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

> inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

> liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

> a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

> to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

> cause a lot of gas.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

stephanie - thanks for responding - i tried to answer/comment.

How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the source?

to be more specific, my mother suspected i had had mercury poisoning

on a low grade from the time i was little as my behavior radically

changed after some shots when i was 4. she thought i was autistic. I

also used thimersol containing contact products for many years. and

shots ( i had a bad tick fever when i was eleven and i got shots twice

a week for seemed to me like months.)

the house i was living had a couple sources of contamination: open

bottle of mercurochrome (grandmother left it in the laundry room which

was over the dryer and i lived right next to it) these we don't know

for sure but my mom thinks were sources also: a giant antique mirror

with possible mercury backing, and an antique mirror in the bathroom

(this one had the date was prior to when they stopped making mirrors

with mercury ) and old paint. also, i was eating a huge amount of

tuna - 2 cans a day for a while there. i used to love tuna. i

wouldn't have thought this would be enough but...the whole time i

lived in that house

my face and hands/feet tingled and were numb, i started having pain in

my feet and legs and i started drooling in my sleep which i never in

my life have done. (ok maybe when i was a kid!)after about 3 months -

anxiety attacks, panic etc

and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

>

>

> This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

> but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

>

> If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

> fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

> make a difference.

i know that some of the sugar alcohols had laxative effects but this

feeling is different than that other feeling. plus i tolerate xylitol

well and stevia doesn't have that as a side effect. xylitol i thought

helped to kill yeast in the gut. i don't eat very much of them though

- every now and again i must have chocolate!

i suppose though that i can try these things and see if it gets

better. i take arginine and lysine to help with the gut and also take

coconut oil and probitoic and sometimes yogurt everyday too.

i am concerned about taking licorice though as i don't know how that

will affect my adrenals.

>

> If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

> ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

> help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

> the lining of your gut.

>

this feels different than the gas caused by sugar alcohols. wouldn't

excess stomach acid give me heart burn? i've never had heart burn...

>

> Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

also - i am getting up int he

> > night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

>

>

>

> I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

>

> >

> > i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early stages

>

> > now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> > night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> > though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> > could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

>

I should do some research on this.

> They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

> inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

> liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

> a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

> to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

> cause a lot of gas.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

stephanie - thanks for responding - i tried to answer/comment.

How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the source?

to be more specific, my mother suspected i had had mercury poisoning

on a low grade from the time i was little as my behavior radically

changed after some shots when i was 4. she thought i was autistic. I

also used thimersol containing contact products for many years. and

shots ( i had a bad tick fever when i was eleven and i got shots twice

a week for seemed to me like months.)

the house i was living had a couple sources of contamination: open

bottle of mercurochrome (grandmother left it in the laundry room which

was over the dryer and i lived right next to it) these we don't know

for sure but my mom thinks were sources also: a giant antique mirror

with possible mercury backing, and an antique mirror in the bathroom

(this one had the date was prior to when they stopped making mirrors

with mercury ) and old paint. also, i was eating a huge amount of

tuna - 2 cans a day for a while there. i used to love tuna. i

wouldn't have thought this would be enough but...the whole time i

lived in that house

my face and hands/feet tingled and were numb, i started having pain in

my feet and legs and i started drooling in my sleep which i never in

my life have done. (ok maybe when i was a kid!)after about 3 months -

anxiety attacks, panic etc

and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

>

>

> This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

> but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

>

> If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

> fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

> make a difference.

i know that some of the sugar alcohols had laxative effects but this

feeling is different than that other feeling. plus i tolerate xylitol

well and stevia doesn't have that as a side effect. xylitol i thought

helped to kill yeast in the gut. i don't eat very much of them though

- every now and again i must have chocolate!

i suppose though that i can try these things and see if it gets

better. i take arginine and lysine to help with the gut and also take

coconut oil and probitoic and sometimes yogurt everyday too.

i am concerned about taking licorice though as i don't know how that

will affect my adrenals.

>

> If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

> ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

> help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

> the lining of your gut.

>

this feels different than the gas caused by sugar alcohols. wouldn't

excess stomach acid give me heart burn? i've never had heart burn...

>

> Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

also - i am getting up int he

> > night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

>

>

>

> I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

>

> >

> > i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early stages

>

> > now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> > night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> > though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> > could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

>

I should do some research on this.

> They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

> inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

> liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

> a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

> to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

> cause a lot of gas.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

>

> stephanie - thanks for responding - i tried to answer/comment.

>

> How did you find out it was mercury contaminated? What was the

source?

>

> to be more specific, my mother suspected i had had mercury poisoning

> on a low grade from the time i was little as my behavior radically

> changed after some shots when i was 4. she thought i was autistic. I

> also used thimersol containing contact products for many years. and

> shots ( i had a bad tick fever when i was eleven and i got shots twice

> a week for seemed to me like months.)

>

> the house i was living had a couple sources of contamination: open

> bottle of mercurochrome (grandmother left it in the laundry room which

> was over the dryer and i lived right next to it) these we don't know

> for sure but my mom thinks were sources also: a giant antique mirror

> with possible mercury backing, and an antique mirror in the bathroom

> (this one had the date was prior to when they stopped making mirrors

> with mercury ) and old paint. also, i was eating a huge amount of

> tuna - 2 cans a day for a while there. i used to love tuna. i

> wouldn't have thought this would be enough but...the whole time i

> lived in that house

> my face and hands/feet tingled and were numb, i started having pain in

> my feet and legs and i started drooling in my sleep which i never in

> my life have done. (ok maybe when i was a kid!)after about 3 months -

> anxiety attacks, panic etc

>

> and i feel bloated all the time - and when i eat

I am similar and have had too many exposures like this over my

lifetime. I'm glad you mentioned the possible issue with antique

mirrors - somehow I have missed this before as a possible source

of mercury. I have an old mirror and I'd better look into how

old and whether it contains mercury. Thank you for mentioning it!

You mention a tick-borne illness when you were 11. I am not sure

if treatments for this even at the time of the illness are always

effective? Not sure. I don't know much about lyme or related

diseases, but I do know they have very similar symptoms to mercury

toxicity - and many mercury toxic people have both lyme and mercury.

Might be an avenue to explore at some point, to be sure this is not

part of your issues.

> > This could be dysbiosis and/or inflammation. Maybe other things too,

> > but I have had these issues resulting in upper belly bloating.

> >

> > If it is dysbiosis, things like probiotics, eliminating sugar *and

> > fake sugars*, and taking coconut oil or natural antifungals would

> > make a difference.

>

> i know that some of the sugar alcohols had laxative effects but this

> feeling is different than that other feeling. plus i tolerate xylitol

> well and stevia doesn't have that as a side effect. xylitol i thought

> helped to kill yeast in the gut. i don't eat very much of them though

> - every now and again i must have chocolate!

> i suppose though that i can try these things and see if it gets

> better. i take arginine and lysine to help with the gut and also take

> coconut oil and probitoic and sometimes yogurt everyday too.

What you really want to do is figure out whether the problem is

inflammation or dysbiosis or something else, so you know what to

address. If you can't figure it out by trying things, at some

point you may want to consider a stool test - a comprehensive test

like the DDI CSA can give a lot of information about what is going

on. I don't know how to interpret these in much detail, but this

is the sort of thing that a good alternative practitioner (ND or

other) can help with.

> i am concerned about taking licorice though as i don't know how that

> will affect my adrenals.

Either licorice or DGL will help to heal your gut. Licorice is

helpful in normalizing adrenal function, but is not the right thing

for everyone. Possibly worth considering though, since poor adrenal

function is often involved in both dysbiosis and inflammation issues.

> > If it is inflammation, removing any irritants (acidic things like

> > ALA, betaine hcl, coffee/tea, chocolate, NSAIDS, some others) will

> > help, along with trying slippery elm and DGL or licorice to heal

> > the lining of your gut.

> >

>

> this feels different than the gas caused by sugar alcohols. wouldn't

> excess stomach acid give me heart burn? i've never had heart burn...

I think gas would more likely indicate too much stomach acid

rather than too little, but I could be wrong.

Inflammation can go with too much or too little stomach acid.

I had inflammation with too little stomach acid. The suggestions

above can help if inflammation is the problem.

When you mentioned your experience with naproxen that really made

me think inflammation. NSAIDS can really irritate the stomach and

cause serious stomach problems in some people. I had problems with

ibuprofen, and I cannot take it at all because of stomach issues.

For you, it could be aggravating an already irritated/inflamed stomach.

> > Could be gas due to fake sugars, dysbiosis, or excess stomach acid.

>

> also - i am getting up int he

> > > night to pee - sometimes so strong is the urge i don't make it. i

> >

> >

> >

> > I have heard of people having this problem with dysbiosis issues.

> >

> > >

> > > i am worried that it might be liver trouble - apparently early

stages

>

> >

> > > now tummy is huge and the scale says i gained three pounds over

> > > night. i do pretty strict atkins. i do have sugar free treats

> > > though - these have sweeteners like splenda, xylitol, maltitol etc

> > > could naproxen or sweeteners be affecting my liver?

> >

If you do have low stomach acid, doing strict atkins could be pretty

hard on digestion. You would not be able to digest all that protein

well.

The sugar free treats can have other nasties in them, artificial

colors/flavors, other chemicals I'm sure. Something to be aware of.

--

> I should do some research on this.

>

> > They could certainly affect the stomach (either dysbiosis or

> > inflammation). The fake sugars are supposed to be bad for the

> > liver, but I don't know the details. You'd probably have to eat

> > a lot of them to do harm, but I am not sure - certainly not good

> > to add these to our already toxic livers. They also tend to

> > cause a lot of gas.

> >

> > --

> >

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