Re: chelation, ND visit, and hyper symptoms,Joanne and Olif

[Guest guest]

>

> Sorry to hear of your frustrations with appointments, Olif. I've

> found throughout this ordeal that being in touch with my own body is

> the critical thing and I have to be prepared to respond and adapt to

> changes myself.

>

> I was feeling great two months following my first amalgam removal

> appointment. My total T3 was checked (I'd relocated recently and

> had a new doctor who didn't know much about thyroid), and it had

> skyrocketed to 660 (the normal range is 60-181). You might think I

> would have been in cardiac arrest,

It's T4 that makes the heart go faster, not T3.

>but I'd only noticed my heart

> rate was occasionally higher. That was quite welcome, since it had

> been in the 50's and I'd functioned at a very low level for years.

> My body temp had come up to normal, etc. I never thought I was

> hyper, but certainly felt 'elated' with good reason.

>

> I found a DO/Naturopath & was checked again at the 4 month point.

> This time free T-3 was checked and was at a high 6.4 when the

> reference range is 1.8 to 4.2.

>

> Doctors really didn't know what to do.

>Does anyone here know if

> mercury can attach to and inactivate free T-3? Or if maybe my liver

> was too jammed up to process it? I'd been on Cytomel for T3.

I don't know exactly what mercury does to T3.

What I do know is that T3 has a short half life and there is some sort

of relationship with available cortisol. When I used cytomel I took

small doses with every cortisol dose and I still had problems. The

highs and lows of T3 seemed to be stressing out my already burnt out

adrenals. I felt much, much better when I switched to sustained

release T3. It's expensive to have it compounded here, but my

insurance pays for most of it.

It also seems like T3 is what I need because I dropped T4 (synthroid)

and I'm managing find without it.

J

First

> the dose was reduced, then I was taken off & given a low dose of

> Armour, but within 2-3 weeks of this I was almost comatose. After

> struggling two more months I had to go back on Cytomel. It's been

> two years & my dose is nearly as high as it was before my amalgams

> came out, but wasn't very effective. Adding a little Isocort

> recently is clearly helping. My saliva cortisol had been low.

>

> Chelating is changing things quickly, and I sense I'm getting a

> similar response to what happened after amalgams came out. I feel

> it's pointless to have this tested constantly and try to keep

> readjusting medication. I'm just following trends, watching my temp

> & pulse, and will reduce medication on my own as appropriate. I

> have follow-up appointments with my ND and will keep her well

> informed.

>

> With a little luck, she will have purchased and read Andy's books

> before I see her again. She was open minded to what I'm doing but I

> don't know how much time she'll have to really study this protocol.

> Her large office is always filled with people receiving EDTA

> chelation and she's well known for success with this treatment (she

> says she's never had a single adverse reaction in ten years or so of

> using it???).

>

> I hope this helps in some way, Olif. The sudden changes in mercury

> levels in your body does some really wild things with hormones.

>

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sorry to hear of your frustrations with appointments, Olif. I've

> found throughout this ordeal that being in touch with my own body is

> the critical thing and I have to be prepared to respond and adapt to

> changes myself.

>

> I was feeling great two months following my first amalgam removal

> appointment. My total T3 was checked (I'd relocated recently and

> had a new doctor who didn't know much about thyroid), and it had

> skyrocketed to 660 (the normal range is 60-181). You might think I

> would have been in cardiac arrest,

It's T4 that makes the heart go faster, not T3.

>but I'd only noticed my heart

> rate was occasionally higher. That was quite welcome, since it had

> been in the 50's and I'd functioned at a very low level for years.

> My body temp had come up to normal, etc. I never thought I was

> hyper, but certainly felt 'elated' with good reason.

>

> I found a DO/Naturopath & was checked again at the 4 month point.

> This time free T-3 was checked and was at a high 6.4 when the

> reference range is 1.8 to 4.2.

>

> Doctors really didn't know what to do.

>Does anyone here know if

> mercury can attach to and inactivate free T-3? Or if maybe my liver

> was too jammed up to process it? I'd been on Cytomel for T3.

I don't know exactly what mercury does to T3.

What I do know is that T3 has a short half life and there is some sort

of relationship with available cortisol. When I used cytomel I took

small doses with every cortisol dose and I still had problems. The

highs and lows of T3 seemed to be stressing out my already burnt out

adrenals. I felt much, much better when I switched to sustained

release T3. It's expensive to have it compounded here, but my

insurance pays for most of it.

It also seems like T3 is what I need because I dropped T4 (synthroid)

and I'm managing find without it.

J

First

> the dose was reduced, then I was taken off & given a low dose of

> Armour, but within 2-3 weeks of this I was almost comatose. After

> struggling two more months I had to go back on Cytomel. It's been

> two years & my dose is nearly as high as it was before my amalgams

> came out, but wasn't very effective. Adding a little Isocort

> recently is clearly helping. My saliva cortisol had been low.

>

> Chelating is changing things quickly, and I sense I'm getting a

> similar response to what happened after amalgams came out. I feel

> it's pointless to have this tested constantly and try to keep

> readjusting medication. I'm just following trends, watching my temp

> & pulse, and will reduce medication on my own as appropriate. I

> have follow-up appointments with my ND and will keep her well

> informed.

>

> With a little luck, she will have purchased and read Andy's books

> before I see her again. She was open minded to what I'm doing but I

> don't know how much time she'll have to really study this protocol.

> Her large office is always filled with people receiving EDTA

> chelation and she's well known for success with this treatment (she

> says she's never had a single adverse reaction in ten years or so of

> using it???).

>

> I hope this helps in some way, Olif. The sudden changes in mercury

> levels in your body does some really wild things with hormones.

>

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sorry to hear of your frustrations with appointments, Olif. I've

> found throughout this ordeal that being in touch with my own body is

> the critical thing and I have to be prepared to respond and adapt to

> changes myself.

>

> I was feeling great two months following my first amalgam removal

> appointment. My total T3 was checked (I'd relocated recently and

> had a new doctor who didn't know much about thyroid), and it had

> skyrocketed to 660 (the normal range is 60-181). You might think I

> would have been in cardiac arrest,

It's T4 that makes the heart go faster, not T3.

>but I'd only noticed my heart

> rate was occasionally higher. That was quite welcome, since it had

> been in the 50's and I'd functioned at a very low level for years.

> My body temp had come up to normal, etc. I never thought I was

> hyper, but certainly felt 'elated' with good reason.

>

> I found a DO/Naturopath & was checked again at the 4 month point.

> This time free T-3 was checked and was at a high 6.4 when the

> reference range is 1.8 to 4.2.

>

> Doctors really didn't know what to do.

>Does anyone here know if

> mercury can attach to and inactivate free T-3? Or if maybe my liver

> was too jammed up to process it? I'd been on Cytomel for T3.

I don't know exactly what mercury does to T3.

What I do know is that T3 has a short half life and there is some sort

of relationship with available cortisol. When I used cytomel I took

small doses with every cortisol dose and I still had problems. The

highs and lows of T3 seemed to be stressing out my already burnt out

adrenals. I felt much, much better when I switched to sustained

release T3. It's expensive to have it compounded here, but my

insurance pays for most of it.

It also seems like T3 is what I need because I dropped T4 (synthroid)

and I'm managing find without it.

J

First

> the dose was reduced, then I was taken off & given a low dose of

> Armour, but within 2-3 weeks of this I was almost comatose. After

> struggling two more months I had to go back on Cytomel. It's been

> two years & my dose is nearly as high as it was before my amalgams

> came out, but wasn't very effective. Adding a little Isocort

> recently is clearly helping. My saliva cortisol had been low.

>

> Chelating is changing things quickly, and I sense I'm getting a

> similar response to what happened after amalgams came out. I feel

> it's pointless to have this tested constantly and try to keep

> readjusting medication. I'm just following trends, watching my temp

> & pulse, and will reduce medication on my own as appropriate. I

> have follow-up appointments with my ND and will keep her well

> informed.

>

> With a little luck, she will have purchased and read Andy's books

> before I see her again. She was open minded to what I'm doing but I

> don't know how much time she'll have to really study this protocol.

> Her large office is always filled with people receiving EDTA

> chelation and she's well known for success with this treatment (she

> says she's never had a single adverse reaction in ten years or so of

> using it???).

>

> I hope this helps in some way, Olif. The sudden changes in mercury

> levels in your body does some really wild things with hormones.

>

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Olif

I wouldnt really worry about the TSH reading to let you know if you

are hyper or hypo.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/tsh-why-its-useless/

My thyriod doc said statistically the mean average of TSH (which is

not important) is 0.8 making the ranges they quote pointless.

It is not uncommon for people with hypothyriodism to have TSH very

low, whuile they still have hypo symptoms

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

The only way to know via labs results are you free T4 and free T3 and

have your antibodies tested.

A TSH level of 0.6 does not make you hyper in any way!

Some people who raise to quickly on thyroid medicine can have

temporary symptoms of being hyper but these soon fade away after a

couple of days.

Let us know what your results are!

Russ

> >

> > Sorry to hear of your frustrations with appointments, Olif. I've

> > found throughout this ordeal that being in touch with my own body is

> > the critical thing and I have to be prepared to respond and adapt to

> > changes myself.

> >

> > I was feeling great two months following my first amalgam removal

> > appointment. My total T3 was checked (I'd relocated recently and

> > had a new doctor who didn't know much about thyroid), and it had

> > skyrocketed to 660 (the normal range is 60-181). You might think I

> > would have been in cardiac arrest,

>

>

>

> It's T4 that makes the heart go faster, not T3.

>

>

>

>

>

> >but I'd only noticed my heart

> > rate was occasionally higher. That was quite welcome, since it had

> > been in the 50's and I'd functioned at a very low level for years.

> > My body temp had come up to normal, etc. I never thought I was

> > hyper, but certainly felt 'elated' with good reason.

> >

> > I found a DO/Naturopath & was checked again at the 4 month point.

> > This time free T-3 was checked and was at a high 6.4 when the

> > reference range is 1.8 to 4.2.

> >

> > Doctors really didn't know what to do.

>

> >Does anyone here know if

> > mercury can attach to and inactivate free T-3? Or if maybe my liver

> > was too jammed up to process it? I'd been on Cytomel for T3.

>

>

>

>

> I don't know exactly what mercury does to T3.

>

> What I do know is that T3 has a short half life and there is some sort

> of relationship with available cortisol. When I used cytomel I took

> small doses with every cortisol dose and I still had problems. The

> highs and lows of T3 seemed to be stressing out my already burnt out

> adrenals. I felt much, much better when I switched to sustained

> release T3. It's expensive to have it compounded here, but my

> insurance pays for most of it.

>

> It also seems like T3 is what I need because I dropped T4 (synthroid)

> and I'm managing find without it.

>

> J

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> First

> > the dose was reduced, then I was taken off & given a low dose of

> > Armour, but within 2-3 weeks of this I was almost comatose. After

> > struggling two more months I had to go back on Cytomel. It's been

> > two years & my dose is nearly as high as it was before my amalgams

> > came out, but wasn't very effective. Adding a little Isocort

> > recently is clearly helping. My saliva cortisol had been low.

> >

> > Chelating is changing things quickly, and I sense I'm getting a

> > similar response to what happened after amalgams came out. I feel

> > it's pointless to have this tested constantly and try to keep

> > readjusting medication. I'm just following trends, watching my temp

> > & pulse, and will reduce medication on my own as appropriate. I

> > have follow-up appointments with my ND and will keep her well

> > informed.

> >

> > With a little luck, she will have purchased and read Andy's books

> > before I see her again. She was open minded to what I'm doing but I

> > don't know how much time she'll have to really study this protocol.

> > Her large office is always filled with people receiving EDTA

> > chelation and she's well known for success with this treatment (she

> > says she's never had a single adverse reaction in ten years or so of

> > using it???).

> >

> > I hope this helps in some way, Olif. The sudden changes in mercury

> > levels in your body does some really wild things with hormones.

> >

> > Joanne

> >

>