Re: 2nd round chelation - 10 year old son - stomach pain - side effects question

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>

> Hi again folks,

>

> Thanks very much to all who have answered my questions before.

>

> I'm attempting my second round of chelation with my son (age 10, 92

> lbs, also being treated for Lyme) with a reduced dosage this time.

> This time, I am using ~12.5 mg DMSA + ~12.5 mg ALA at 3 hour

> intervals. I have administered this dosage since 4 PM Friday ... it

> is now 7 PM Saturday. He started to have stomach discomfort at 7 AM

> Sat morning.

>

> Apart from being tired, the only other significant side effect seems

> to be stomach cramping or discomfort (he points to the area under the

> navel). The pain seems to ebb and flow a bit but is always there (I

> get the impression that it is similar to the pain one gets when taking

> antibiotics). Although he is in reasonable spirits, I wanted to get

> some feedback.

>

> I had stopped chelation completely mid-round #1 after he was

> experiencing cramps and nausea at 25 mg DMSA a few weeks ago.

>

> I decided to try a reduced dose (as suggested) and add ALA this time

> round.

>

> Is cramping and general lower intestine discomfort a normal side effect?

>

It is not a side effect that I have ever had. I haven't been counting

how many others have mentioned these side effects.

> Is there anything I can give him to ease the pain?

I would stop the ALA and continue the round with DMSA only.

It would be a good idea to do several rounds, or even a couple of

months of rounds, with 12.5 mg DMSA only before adding ALA.

If you find that he still has pain and cramping with 12.5 mg dose of

DMSA only then you might want to consider reducing the dose even

further or trying a round with 12.5 mg ALA only.

When first starting it is best to try each chelator separately to get

an idea of the response before mixing them so that you can tell which

side effects are associated with which chelator.

J

I am continuing

> his normal supplements including probiotics and caprylic acid.

>

> I am hoping to get through this cycle without stopping, but not having

> a lot of experience in this, I am concerned.

>

> Any timely feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks very much,

>

> Deb

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi again folks,

>

> Thanks very much to all who have answered my questions before.

>

> I'm attempting my second round of chelation with my son (age 10, 92

> lbs, also being treated for Lyme) with a reduced dosage this time.

> This time, I am using ~12.5 mg DMSA + ~12.5 mg ALA at 3 hour

> intervals. I have administered this dosage since 4 PM Friday ... it

> is now 7 PM Saturday. He started to have stomach discomfort at 7 AM

> Sat morning.

>

> Apart from being tired, the only other significant side effect seems

> to be stomach cramping or discomfort (he points to the area under the

> navel). The pain seems to ebb and flow a bit but is always there (I

> get the impression that it is similar to the pain one gets when taking

> antibiotics). Although he is in reasonable spirits, I wanted to get

> some feedback.

>

> I had stopped chelation completely mid-round #1 after he was

> experiencing cramps and nausea at 25 mg DMSA a few weeks ago.

>

> I decided to try a reduced dose (as suggested) and add ALA this time

> round.

>

> Is cramping and general lower intestine discomfort a normal side effect?

>

It is not a side effect that I have ever had. I haven't been counting

how many others have mentioned these side effects.

> Is there anything I can give him to ease the pain?

I would stop the ALA and continue the round with DMSA only.

It would be a good idea to do several rounds, or even a couple of

months of rounds, with 12.5 mg DMSA only before adding ALA.

If you find that he still has pain and cramping with 12.5 mg dose of

DMSA only then you might want to consider reducing the dose even

further or trying a round with 12.5 mg ALA only.

When first starting it is best to try each chelator separately to get

an idea of the response before mixing them so that you can tell which

side effects are associated with which chelator.

J

I am continuing

> his normal supplements including probiotics and caprylic acid.

>

> I am hoping to get through this cycle without stopping, but not having

> a lot of experience in this, I am concerned.

>

> Any timely feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks very much,

>

> Deb

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi again folks,

>

> Thanks very much to all who have answered my questions before.

>

> I'm attempting my second round of chelation with my son (age 10, 92

> lbs, also being treated for Lyme) with a reduced dosage this time.

> This time, I am using ~12.5 mg DMSA + ~12.5 mg ALA at 3 hour

> intervals. I have administered this dosage since 4 PM Friday ... it

> is now 7 PM Saturday. He started to have stomach discomfort at 7 AM

> Sat morning.

>

> Apart from being tired, the only other significant side effect seems

> to be stomach cramping or discomfort (he points to the area under the

> navel). The pain seems to ebb and flow a bit but is always there (I

> get the impression that it is similar to the pain one gets when taking

> antibiotics). Although he is in reasonable spirits, I wanted to get

> some feedback.

>

> I had stopped chelation completely mid-round #1 after he was

> experiencing cramps and nausea at 25 mg DMSA a few weeks ago.

>

> I decided to try a reduced dose (as suggested) and add ALA this time

> round.

>

> Is cramping and general lower intestine discomfort a normal side effect?

>

It is not a side effect that I have ever had. I haven't been counting

how many others have mentioned these side effects.

> Is there anything I can give him to ease the pain?

I would stop the ALA and continue the round with DMSA only.

It would be a good idea to do several rounds, or even a couple of

months of rounds, with 12.5 mg DMSA only before adding ALA.

If you find that he still has pain and cramping with 12.5 mg dose of

DMSA only then you might want to consider reducing the dose even

further or trying a round with 12.5 mg ALA only.

When first starting it is best to try each chelator separately to get

an idea of the response before mixing them so that you can tell which

side effects are associated with which chelator.

J

I am continuing

> his normal supplements including probiotics and caprylic acid.

>

> I am hoping to get through this cycle without stopping, but not having

> a lot of experience in this, I am concerned.

>

> Any timely feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks very much,

>

> Deb

>

[Guest guest]

Also is he on probiotics? And is yeast being treated? We see stomach

discomfort from constipation caused by yeast during chelation. He

needs to have regular bowel movements while on a round. Yeast can

cause the constipation. If your already treating and he is not

constipated..disregard.

any food intolerances?

I can say that the first few rounds I ever did, I had a dull stomach

ache for those days. It felt like what I call Advil stomach. It

aches and you don't feel hungry really, just a bit off, not quite

normal. It went away by round three. My daughter had that same

thing. I can't say it was " cramping pain " though. Just aching,

and " not quite right feeling " . Like you took aspirin on an empty

stomach or something. Where you ate but you didn't really want too.

Bleek stomach..we call it.

Go down to dmsa only for a while and let him adjust.

>

> Hi again folks,

>

> Thanks very much to all who have answered my questions before.

>

> I'm attempting my second round of chelation with my son (age 10, 92

> lbs, also being treated for Lyme) with a reduced dosage this time.

> This time, I am using ~12.5 mg DMSA + ~12.5 mg ALA at 3 hour

> intervals. I have administered this dosage since 4 PM Friday ...

it

> is now 7 PM Saturday. He started to have stomach discomfort at 7

AM