Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 In a message dated 2/15/2006 4:57:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? I think it depends on the kid. My were like night and day. My son was not ready for that much that early. We did a Mom & Me playgroup at 2 and then a 3-year-old class two days a week the following year. 4-year old class was 3 days a week. Then onto kindergarten which is a half day program around here. My daughter however was ready for a half day program, every day, by the time she was 2½. I had a hard time finding places that would take her into their program, even though she was as tall as the older kids, completely potty trained, and incredibly verbal. By 3 she had given up afternoon nap and would have gladly started full-day kindergarten at 4, if we'd let her -- which we didn't. I would defer to the mommy-gut reaction on this one. Do you feel your child is ready? Or do you feel he's overwhelmed? I really think this is completely dependant on what the child can handle. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 In a message dated 2/15/2006 4:57:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? I think it depends on the kid. My were like night and day. My son was not ready for that much that early. We did a Mom & Me playgroup at 2 and then a 3-year-old class two days a week the following year. 4-year old class was 3 days a week. Then onto kindergarten which is a half day program around here. My daughter however was ready for a half day program, every day, by the time she was 2½. I had a hard time finding places that would take her into their program, even though she was as tall as the older kids, completely potty trained, and incredibly verbal. By 3 she had given up afternoon nap and would have gladly started full-day kindergarten at 4, if we'd let her -- which we didn't. I would defer to the mommy-gut reaction on this one. Do you feel your child is ready? Or do you feel he's overwhelmed? I really think this is completely dependant on what the child can handle. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 In a message dated 2/15/2006 4:57:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? I think it depends on the kid. My were like night and day. My son was not ready for that much that early. We did a Mom & Me playgroup at 2 and then a 3-year-old class two days a week the following year. 4-year old class was 3 days a week. Then onto kindergarten which is a half day program around here. My daughter however was ready for a half day program, every day, by the time she was 2½. I had a hard time finding places that would take her into their program, even though she was as tall as the older kids, completely potty trained, and incredibly verbal. By 3 she had given up afternoon nap and would have gladly started full-day kindergarten at 4, if we'd let her -- which we didn't. I would defer to the mommy-gut reaction on this one. Do you feel your child is ready? Or do you feel he's overwhelmed? I really think this is completely dependant on what the child can handle. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. I'll be interested to see what others think. Barbara The Archers wrote: > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > Our schedule is as follows: > Tuesdays: > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > Thanks so much! > Tawnya > > -- **************** Barbara Mellert Manager, Social Science Computing Kiewit Computing Services Dartmouth College 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 Hanover NH 03755 Telephone: 603/646-2877 URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yeah, Ian just turned 2 in October. We drive nearly 2 hours each way to school. So I really want to make sure it is worth it. They expect the kids to do the circle time without becoming distracted. I think that is alot for him. Maybe because he is a boy, or just immature, I don't know. It just seems like alot. They also don't want us in the classroom with them. There are 7 kids in the class. A couple of them are twins, so the sibling is doing a " reverse mainstream " type thing. I guess it just bugs me that I spend 1/2 hour outside with just me and the aid and a couple other kids. I mean, I could do that at home!! I was learning alot spending time in the class, but when there got to be more kids, they kicked out the parents. I am just trying to get it all figured out. He has been aided since 10 months....never a dull moment. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. I'll be interested to see what others think. Barbara The Archers wrote: > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > Our schedule is as follows: > Tuesdays: > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > Thanks so much! > Tawnya > > -- **************** Barbara Mellert Manager, Social Science Computing Kiewit Computing Services Dartmouth College 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 Hanover NH 03755 Telephone: 603/646-2877 URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yeah, Ian just turned 2 in October. We drive nearly 2 hours each way to school. So I really want to make sure it is worth it. They expect the kids to do the circle time without becoming distracted. I think that is alot for him. Maybe because he is a boy, or just immature, I don't know. It just seems like alot. They also don't want us in the classroom with them. There are 7 kids in the class. A couple of them are twins, so the sibling is doing a " reverse mainstream " type thing. I guess it just bugs me that I spend 1/2 hour outside with just me and the aid and a couple other kids. I mean, I could do that at home!! I was learning alot spending time in the class, but when there got to be more kids, they kicked out the parents. I am just trying to get it all figured out. He has been aided since 10 months....never a dull moment. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. I'll be interested to see what others think. Barbara The Archers wrote: > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > Our schedule is as follows: > Tuesdays: > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > Thanks so much! > Tawnya > > -- **************** Barbara Mellert Manager, Social Science Computing Kiewit Computing Services Dartmouth College 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 Hanover NH 03755 Telephone: 603/646-2877 URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yeah, Ian just turned 2 in October. We drive nearly 2 hours each way to school. So I really want to make sure it is worth it. They expect the kids to do the circle time without becoming distracted. I think that is alot for him. Maybe because he is a boy, or just immature, I don't know. It just seems like alot. They also don't want us in the classroom with them. There are 7 kids in the class. A couple of them are twins, so the sibling is doing a " reverse mainstream " type thing. I guess it just bugs me that I spend 1/2 hour outside with just me and the aid and a couple other kids. I mean, I could do that at home!! I was learning alot spending time in the class, but when there got to be more kids, they kicked out the parents. I am just trying to get it all figured out. He has been aided since 10 months....never a dull moment. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. I'll be interested to see what others think. Barbara The Archers wrote: > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > Our schedule is as follows: > Tuesdays: > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > Thanks so much! > Tawnya > > -- **************** Barbara Mellert Manager, Social Science Computing Kiewit Computing Services Dartmouth College 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 Hanover NH 03755 Telephone: 603/646-2877 URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think 2 is really young to be expected to sit quietly in circle, etc. - for any kid. I think you need to follow your instincts and do what you think is right. Have you talked with ' EI person about it? That's a long way to drive too! Barbara The Archers wrote: > Yeah, Ian just turned 2 in October. We drive nearly 2 hours each way to school. So I really want to make sure it is worth it. They expect the kids to do the circle time without becoming distracted. I think that is alot for him. Maybe because he is a boy, or just immature, I don't know. It just seems like alot. They also don't want us in the classroom with them. There are 7 kids in the class. A couple of them are twins, so the sibling is doing a " reverse mainstream " type thing. > > I guess it just bugs me that I spend 1/2 hour outside with just me and the aid and a couple other kids. I mean, I could do that at home!! I was learning alot spending time in the class, but when there got to be more kids, they kicked out the parents. > > I am just trying to get it all figured out. He has been aided since 10 months....never a dull moment. > > Tawnya > Re: 2 year old questions > > > Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot > to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is > 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like > individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. > It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not > remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. > I'll be interested to see what others think. > > Barbara > > The Archers wrote: > > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > > > Our schedule is as follows: > > Tuesdays: > > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > > > Thanks so much! > > Tawnya > > > > > > -- > **************** > > Barbara Mellert > Manager, Social Science Computing > Kiewit Computing Services > Dartmouth College > 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 > Hanover NH 03755 > Telephone: 603/646-2877 > URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think 2 is really young to be expected to sit quietly in circle, etc. - for any kid. I think you need to follow your instincts and do what you think is right. Have you talked with ' EI person about it? That's a long way to drive too! Barbara The Archers wrote: > Yeah, Ian just turned 2 in October. We drive nearly 2 hours each way to school. So I really want to make sure it is worth it. They expect the kids to do the circle time without becoming distracted. I think that is alot for him. Maybe because he is a boy, or just immature, I don't know. It just seems like alot. They also don't want us in the classroom with them. There are 7 kids in the class. A couple of them are twins, so the sibling is doing a " reverse mainstream " type thing. > > I guess it just bugs me that I spend 1/2 hour outside with just me and the aid and a couple other kids. I mean, I could do that at home!! I was learning alot spending time in the class, but when there got to be more kids, they kicked out the parents. > > I am just trying to get it all figured out. He has been aided since 10 months....never a dull moment. > > Tawnya > Re: 2 year old questions > > > Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot > to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is > 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like > individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. > It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not > remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. > I'll be interested to see what others think. > > Barbara > > The Archers wrote: > > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > > > Our schedule is as follows: > > Tuesdays: > > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > > > Thanks so much! > > Tawnya > > > > > > -- > **************** > > Barbara Mellert > Manager, Social Science Computing > Kiewit Computing Services > Dartmouth College > 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 > Hanover NH 03755 > Telephone: 603/646-2877 > URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think 2 is really young to be expected to sit quietly in circle, etc. - for any kid. I think you need to follow your instincts and do what you think is right. Have you talked with ' EI person about it? That's a long way to drive too! Barbara The Archers wrote: > Yeah, Ian just turned 2 in October. We drive nearly 2 hours each way to school. So I really want to make sure it is worth it. They expect the kids to do the circle time without becoming distracted. I think that is alot for him. Maybe because he is a boy, or just immature, I don't know. It just seems like alot. They also don't want us in the classroom with them. There are 7 kids in the class. A couple of them are twins, so the sibling is doing a " reverse mainstream " type thing. > > I guess it just bugs me that I spend 1/2 hour outside with just me and the aid and a couple other kids. I mean, I could do that at home!! I was learning alot spending time in the class, but when there got to be more kids, they kicked out the parents. > > I am just trying to get it all figured out. He has been aided since 10 months....never a dull moment. > > Tawnya > Re: 2 year old questions > > > Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot > to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is > 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like > individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. > It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not > remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. > I'll be interested to see what others think. > > Barbara > > The Archers wrote: > > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > > > Our schedule is as follows: > > Tuesdays: > > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > > > Thanks so much! > > Tawnya > > > > > > -- > **************** > > Barbara Mellert > Manager, Social Science Computing > Kiewit Computing Services > Dartmouth College > 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 > Hanover NH 03755 > Telephone: 603/646-2877 > URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 My girls are turning three in a couple weeks, and have mild/mod SNHL and BTE aids. Since 20 months old, they have had speech tx in our home 1 hour weekly (each girl) and also have a TOD doing aural rehab an hour weekly in-home for each girl. When they turned two, they started attending a 90 min weekly group class geared around speech and music. This was in addition to the in-home sessions. I think they did benefit from the group class (the agenda is way more open than what you're describing and parents were not allowed in the room), but I would not trade the individual sessions for a group setting at that age. They also picked up a 3-hr Mom's Morning Out program at 2.5 yo for more socialization skills (and for mom to get a break!). We kep the individual sessions thru all this, until just a month ago. All sessions were covered thru Early Intervention program (except Mom's Day Out program-that was out of pocket). Does Ian receive 1:1 therapy outside this group school? Having survived the 2's (!), I can say my kids would not have been able to hold that much focus as needed in the agenda you described. Edith Re: 2 year old questions " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 That was the email I sent her. She is HOH too. So I do value her opinion. Just not sure where to go from here! Thanks for your advice. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions > > > Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot > to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is > 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like > individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. > It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not > remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. > I'll be interested to see what others think. > > Barbara > > The Archers wrote: > > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > > > Our schedule is as follows: > > Tuesdays: > > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > > > Thanks so much! > > Tawnya > > > > > > -- > **************** > > Barbara Mellert > Manager, Social Science Computing > Kiewit Computing Services > Dartmouth College > 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 > Hanover NH 03755 > Telephone: 603/646-2877 > URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 That was the email I sent her. She is HOH too. So I do value her opinion. Just not sure where to go from here! Thanks for your advice. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions > > > Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot > to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is > 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like > individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. > It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not > remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. > I'll be interested to see what others think. > > Barbara > > The Archers wrote: > > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > > > Our schedule is as follows: > > Tuesdays: > > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > > > Thanks so much! > > Tawnya > > > > > > -- > **************** > > Barbara Mellert > Manager, Social Science Computing > Kiewit Computing Services > Dartmouth College > 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 > Hanover NH 03755 > Telephone: 603/646-2877 > URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 That was the email I sent her. She is HOH too. So I do value her opinion. Just not sure where to go from here! Thanks for your advice. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions > > > Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot > to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is > 3? Also, I'm not an expert but I think fine tuning things like > individual letters is something that he likely won't get now but later. > It's been awhile since I've had a little guy so I'm possibly not > remembering but this does seem more appropriate when he gets older. > I'll be interested to see what others think. > > Barbara > > The Archers wrote: > > I really wish I knew exactly what Ian needs!! This is the letter I sent to his TOD today. Do you guys have any insight for me? What did your 2 year olds do in speech/class? > > > > " I have a couple of concerns I wanted to talk to you about. > > > > We have changed therapists at JWPOSD. They are supposed to be working on fine tuning his oral motor skills. I don't really see that happening. I am really wondering if his speech improvements are from JW or just from him maturing. > > > > Our schedule is as follows: > > Tuesdays: > > Speech 9:00 to 9:45 > > Circle 9:45 to 9:50 > > Outside (with myself and the aide) 9:50 to 10:20 > > Snack 10:20 to 10:35 > > Closing Circle 10:40 to 10:55. > > > > So on Tuesdays he isn't getting any real class time. They do circle, and sing songs. It seems to me that being there in class is almost a waste. I mean I can sing songs at home and take him to the park and he would be getting one on one time. > > > > Thursdays are slightly different in that he has therapy from 10-10:45 so he does get a bit of classroom time, but I am not in the room. So he spends a good portion of the time not participating and being upset. > > > > It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. > > > > What I am seeing in his speech therapy sessions is alot of exposure. Which is great, but I really think he needs fine tuning. Like when he says , he says homas. > > > > Example: Yesterday at speech they played with playdoh, asking Ian what he wanted to make, making a smiley face and a train, asking what is missing from the train. Then they did puzzles, matching the dirty shirt with the clean shirt. She mixed them up on the floor and wanted him to match them. Repeating dirty shirt, clean shirt, dirty shirt, clean shirt. They then did playdoh and she had him find different animal shapes. I am just not understanding where she is going with it?! Or what it has to do with his oral motor skills. > > > > Any insight for me? I am just wondering what to do. I am seeing an improvement in his overall speech, but not in his pronunciation. Which is what he needs for mainstream preschool, right? " > > > > Thanks so much! > > Tawnya > > > > > > -- > **************** > > Barbara Mellert > Manager, Social Science Computing > Kiewit Computing Services > Dartmouth College > 13A Silsby Hall, HB 6121 > Hanover NH 03755 > Telephone: 603/646-2877 > URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Ian does get 45 minutes of therapy twice a week. I am just not sure it is even working. They do alot of things I consider preschool skills instead of speech. I do daycare at home, so he doesn't need any extra social stuff. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Ian does get 45 minutes of therapy twice a week. I am just not sure it is even working. They do alot of things I consider preschool skills instead of speech. I do daycare at home, so he doesn't need any extra social stuff. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 One more point, Ian is the only one in his class who doesn't have an implant. So he is the only mild/moderate kid. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?! The kids in the class are all younger than him and seem so timid and quiet. Ian is all boy, loud and rough. Re: 2 year old questions " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 One more point, Ian is the only one in his class who doesn't have an implant. So he is the only mild/moderate kid. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?! The kids in the class are all younger than him and seem so timid and quiet. Ian is all boy, loud and rough. Re: 2 year old questions " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 One more point, Ian is the only one in his class who doesn't have an implant. So he is the only mild/moderate kid. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?! The kids in the class are all younger than him and seem so timid and quiet. Ian is all boy, loud and rough. Re: 2 year old questions " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any hearing loss that he would be too immature for preschool right now. He has a hard time with it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to and from, and it just seem like something he is not getting a great benefit from. It is a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too much for him too early on. " " For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the majority of HOH kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH kids typically benefit more from one on one time with an individual caregiver. We are taking a wait and see approach with our daughter. Best of luck, All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 That's interesting re: pre-school. We have signed our daughter up for pre-school for the Fall and I'm a little nervous about it. She will be 2 1/2 and in a class of 7 kids and 2 adults. I'm hoping it works out but if she's not ready, there's always the next year. Alison --- jbkdarby wrote: > > " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any > hearing loss that he > would be too immature for preschool right now. He > has a hard time with > it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to > and from, and it > just seem like something he is not getting a great > benefit from. It is > a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too > much for him too > early on. " " > > For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the > majority of HOH > kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH > kids typically benefit > more from one on one time with an individual > caregiver. We are taking a > wait and see approach with our daughter. > > Best of luck, > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 That's interesting re: pre-school. We have signed our daughter up for pre-school for the Fall and I'm a little nervous about it. She will be 2 1/2 and in a class of 7 kids and 2 adults. I'm hoping it works out but if she's not ready, there's always the next year. Alison --- jbkdarby wrote: > > " " It is my thought that if Ian did not have any > hearing loss that he > would be too immature for preschool right now. He > has a hard time with > it. Couple that with the time it takes us to get to > and from, and it > just seem like something he is not getting a great > benefit from. It is > a GREAT school, but I just wonder if it isn't too > much for him too > early on. " " > > For what it's worth--Out cert AVT suggests that the > majority of HOH > kids delay pre-school until around age 3, as HOH > kids typically benefit > more from one on one time with an individual > caregiver. We are taking a > wait and see approach with our daughter. > > Best of luck, > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Thanks Jill. I do think he is overwhelmed. I also think he keeps getting sick there. So its like one step forward, 2 steps back. He is going Tuesday/Thursday, so by the time Thursday comes it is getting better, but then there is so much time over the weekend and stuff it is almost like we were never there. I am almost thinking of asking for in home therapy again, and signing him up for a music class or something fun like that. We shall see. Thanks again. Tawnya Re: 2 year old questions In a message dated 2/15/2006 4:57:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Hi Tawnya - is really just 2 years old? This does sound like a lot to me for a 2 year old - I thought preschool began when the child is is 3? I think it depends on the kid. My were like night and day. My son was not ready for that much that early. We did a Mom & Me playgroup at 2 and then a 3-year-old class two days a week the following year. 4-year old class was 3 days a week. Then onto kindergarten which is a half day program around here. My daughter however was ready for a half day program, every day, by the time she was 2½. I had a hard time finding places that would take her into their program, even though she was as tall as the older kids, completely potty trained, and incredibly verbal. By 3 she had given up afternoon nap and would have gladly started full-day kindergarten at 4, if we'd let her -- which we didn't. I would defer to the mommy-gut reaction on this one. Do you feel your child is ready? Or do you feel he's overwhelmed? I really think this is completely dependant on what the child can handle. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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