Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Where are your thyroid levels? If hey are low, especially the T3 you should be taking some thyroid as this is the best way to stop Hashi atacks. Selenium is also said ot be good for lowering antibodies. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hi Val, Thanks for the fast reply. I will post my labs below. Do you think T3 only would be the way to go even with adrenal issues? Or should I try and lower the high cortisol first? The other strange thing is that despite the high cortisol I fall asleep very quickly whenver I sit down for a while, which i thought would be a low cortisol thing, but the tiredness could be due to fluid retention. I do have some Selenium which I will start next week. My labs are: Salivary Hormone Test Results 6.00am - 85 - (5.3 - 61.8) 12.00pm - 9 - (reference range n/a, target range 15) 6.00pm - 12 - (1.2 - 12.3) 10.00pm - 39 - (reference range n/a, target range <5) Blood Test Results Bilrubin 12 (2-20) Alk Phos 62 (30-120) AST 20 (5-40) ALT 25 (5-40) Gamma GT 18 (5-40) LDH 152 (100-230) Chol. 6.4H (3.5-5.5) Trigs. .46L (0.50-2.00) Ferritin 94 (15-200) Free T4 13.3 (8.5-17.0) TSH 0.8 (0.35-5.0) IgA 2.35 (0.70-4.00) Anti-Tg 22 (<34) Anti-TPO 5 (<12) Reverse T3 737H (140-540) Cortisol (am) 461 (190-690) Vit B12 911 (>140) Oestradiol 143 (140-2400) Testosterone 3.6 (<4.6) SHBG 75 (20-110) FAI 4.8 (0.8-7.0) DHEAS 12.4 (2.0-14.0) Regards, Cara > > Where are your thyroid levels? If hey are low, especially the T3 you > should be taking some thyroid as this is the best way to stop Hashi > atacks. Selenium is also said ot be good for lowering antibodies. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 This is strange. Your antibodioes are not high. I would be suspect for Graves with these symtooms have you ever had the Free T4 tested? Your Free T4 is polenty high enough, and Gravces wiht HIGH thyroid could cause the same tiredness as low thyroid. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Sorry I meant the Free T3.. have you had it tested? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 > > Sorry I meant the Free T3.. have you had it tested? > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > HI Val, No, my doctor requested that the free t3 be tested but the lab did not do it. I'm not sure why. Maybe I should get that tested. Is there anything else I can do in the meantime? I've been at a standstill since getting my lab results in November as I'm so confused. My doctor suggested Armour but with my lab results I have not wanted to. Regrds, Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I would get a Free T3 ASAP and in the meanwhile just take some good support for your over worked adrenals. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 > > I would get a Free T3 ASAP and in the meanwhile just take some good > support for your over worked adrenals. > Thanks Val, by support do you mean supplements etc? I am taking Holy Basil for the high cortisol. Cheers, Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Phosphatidyl Serine is said to be the best to lower high cortisol. Also you would want to take vitamins B12, C and adaptogens Rhodiola and ashwaganda might be helpful as well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I just read Val's interesting response (below) to another poster. > " Hashi attacks are ususally complete with sor or swollen thyrodi gland > and glands in the neck sore as well. Thyroid dumps have over 99 degree > temps that stay high all day. Low cortisl USUSLALy has ,low temps. " Before I went through a LOT of stress watching our very young grandchildren my thyroid seemed to be enlarging. Sure enough, it still has cysts and is now a small goiter, too, that I could feel without touching. My doc didn't seem to think anything about it since it hadn't changed much in two years. Of course my other doc thought I was crazy for saying " I was aware of my thyroid. " She didn't even feel it or order tests! Now that the stress is gone my body seems to be fighting inflamation, it's 3 1/2 x's the normal blood amount of C reative protein. My temps have always been low since I was in my twenties. Until I can get to my March appointment with a doc that I have heard is more versed in Adrenals & Thyroid, does anyone have suggestions on what I can do now to help myself from getting worse and to calm the inflamation even more? Homekeeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I agree with Val here - these labs indicate Graves hyperthyroid - esp the higher Ft4 and high RT3 with adrenal fatigue. You should have a TSI antibody test to confirm. Cathy > > This is strange. Your antibodioes are not high. I would be suspect for > Graves with these symtooms have you ever had the Free T4 tested? Your > Free T4 is polenty high enough, and Gravces wiht HIGH thyroid could > cause the same tiredness as low thyroid. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I agree with Val here - these labs indicate Graves hyperthyroid - esp the higher Ft4 and high RT3 with adrenal fatigue. You should have a TSI antibody test to confirm. Cathy > > This is strange. Your antibodioes are not high. I would be suspect for > Graves with these symtooms have you ever had the Free T4 tested? Your > Free T4 is polenty high enough, and Gravces wiht HIGH thyroid could > cause the same tiredness as low thyroid. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks so much for your time Val I really value your advice! Regards, Cara ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks so much for your time Val I really value your advice! Regards, Cara ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I thought b12 helped the adrenals get higher, or better? Or it just helps support them, either way? > > Phosphatidyl Serine is said to be the best to lower high cortisol. Also > you would want to take vitamins B12, C and adaptogens Rhodiola and > ashwaganda might be helpful as well. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I believe B12 is juts good support for them to help rebuild. I habe not seen anywher that it is needed to produce cortiosl so do not believe it can actuially raise cortiosl levels,. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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