Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Jeane So glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would go that route as they need to. I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readings on two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what I can. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot to another mall. > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bruce Moreland Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:05 PM To: Breathe-Support Subject: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Jeane So glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would go that route as they need to. I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readings on two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what I can. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot to another mall. > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Really I can spell, You just wouldn’t know it today From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:24 PM To: Breathe-Support Subject: RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bruce Moreland Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:05 PM To: Breathe-Support Subject: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Jeane So glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would go that route as they need to. I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readings on two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what I can. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot to another mall. > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good for you jeane...keep on keepin' on! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Pulmo visit tomorrow Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good for you jeane...keep on keepin' on! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Pulmo visit tomorrow Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good for you jeane...keep on keepin' on! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Pulmo visit tomorrow Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Bob... yeah, I know the days of the week too but I still called the chat board on Monday. Thursday is our chat day! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Really I can spell, You just wouldn’t know it today From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:24 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bruce MorelandSent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:05 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow JeaneSo glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would gothat route as they need to.I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readingson two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what Ican. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot toanother mall.>> Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and> each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing> there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first> time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to> duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the> next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is> worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this> entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have> done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and> don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to> something like 8 different things they test for.>> And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok> lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am> waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I> really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock.> Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.>> Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me> if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I> asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that> was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living.> Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until> that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.>> I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped> the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the> year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to> see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By> the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my> shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Bob... yeah, I know the days of the week too but I still called the chat board on Monday. Thursday is our chat day! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Really I can spell, You just wouldn’t know it today From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:24 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bruce MorelandSent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:05 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow JeaneSo glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would gothat route as they need to.I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readingson two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what Ican. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot toanother mall.>> Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and> each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing> there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first> time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to> duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the> next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is> worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this> entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have> done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and> don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to> something like 8 different things they test for.>> And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok> lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am> waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I> really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock.> Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.>> Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me> if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I> asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that> was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living.> Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until> that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.>> I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped> the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the> year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to> see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By> the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my> shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Bob... yeah, I know the days of the week too but I still called the chat board on Monday. Thursday is our chat day! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Really I can spell, You just wouldn’t know it today From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:24 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bruce MorelandSent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:05 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow JeaneSo glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would gothat route as they need to.I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readingson two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what Ican. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot toanother mall.>> Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and> each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing> there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first> time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to> duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the> next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is> worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this> entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have> done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and> don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to> something like 8 different things they test for.>> And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok> lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am> waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I> really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock.> Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.>> Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me> if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I> asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that> was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living.> Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until> that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.>> I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped> the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the> year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to> see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By> the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my> shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I have my name on the list for " smart keyboards " - you know I am not sure when they will come out but I really need to have one that says and spells what you mean not what you are saying and spelling. I think they will go quickly though. lol > > > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > > something like 8 different things they test for. > > > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jeane I am really glad to see someone else's description of the PFTs. I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes i wonder about the accuracy of them, since they are so difficult to do. Blow, Blow, Blow, take a deep Breath, take little breaths, breath normal, repeat, repeat, repeat then we have to wait for the machine to reset some of the actions make me cough and then the test has to be repeated wait, breath, blow, deep breath, cough, start all over again here's a drink of water--sometimes drinking water makes me cough,so it doesn't always help I wonder how people whose conditions are worse than mine, do the PFTs they are so difficult in july 2006 when i went for the 3 day evaluation, the most difficult test that left me the most exhausted was the PFT even the cardiac cath was easier Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrowTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:16 AM Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Joyce You mentioned wondering about the accuracy. Well, individually they leave quite a bit to be desired in that respect. However, over an extended period of time they help in showing a trend. Every piece of equipment is different. The scoring software is different. Most of all you are different each time. Congestion. How much eaten. General Tiredness. How awake for those of us no longer morning people. Even skill in taking the test. I keep my scores on a spreadsheet going right to left and can see the trends clearly. I can also see a test last February that we totally dismiss. I needed a smaller mouthpiece and didn't think about it. But the scores are far below those of any other date. You can even build a graph from the spreadsheet, but I haven't. > > From: jeane7160 jeane7160@... > Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrow > To: Breathe-Support > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:16 AM > > > > > > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Joyce You mentioned wondering about the accuracy. Well, individually they leave quite a bit to be desired in that respect. However, over an extended period of time they help in showing a trend. Every piece of equipment is different. The scoring software is different. Most of all you are different each time. Congestion. How much eaten. General Tiredness. How awake for those of us no longer morning people. Even skill in taking the test. I keep my scores on a spreadsheet going right to left and can see the trends clearly. I can also see a test last February that we totally dismiss. I needed a smaller mouthpiece and didn't think about it. But the scores are far below those of any other date. You can even build a graph from the spreadsheet, but I haven't. > > From: jeane7160 jeane7160@... > Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrow > To: Breathe-Support > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:16 AM > > > > > > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Joyce You mentioned wondering about the accuracy. Well, individually they leave quite a bit to be desired in that respect. However, over an extended period of time they help in showing a trend. Every piece of equipment is different. The scoring software is different. Most of all you are different each time. Congestion. How much eaten. General Tiredness. How awake for those of us no longer morning people. Even skill in taking the test. I keep my scores on a spreadsheet going right to left and can see the trends clearly. I can also see a test last February that we totally dismiss. I needed a smaller mouthpiece and didn't think about it. But the scores are far below those of any other date. You can even build a graph from the spreadsheet, but I haven't. > > From: jeane7160 jeane7160@... > Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrow > To: Breathe-Support > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:16 AM > > > > > > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jean, I have a "three try rule" and I never go over it. The test is to help you and your doctor, not the technician. There are no prizes for completing it so many times you inure your lungs. I tell them in advance that the last time I went over the three rule try I was so wiped out I couldn't drive home or get out of bed for the next three days. When I complained to my pulmo afterwards she was shocked that they made me redo the tests so many times trying to get a "good" score. She said to stop when I was tired and rest, use o2 between tries and to listen to my body. Good luck with the tests. I'll be praying that all goes well. R. (52) Sarcoid/PF 3/2006 Carlsbad, California Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrowTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:16 AM Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jean, I have a "three try rule" and I never go over it. The test is to help you and your doctor, not the technician. There are no prizes for completing it so many times you inure your lungs. I tell them in advance that the last time I went over the three rule try I was so wiped out I couldn't drive home or get out of bed for the next three days. When I complained to my pulmo afterwards she was shocked that they made me redo the tests so many times trying to get a "good" score. She said to stop when I was tired and rest, use o2 between tries and to listen to my body. Good luck with the tests. I'll be praying that all goes well. R. (52) Sarcoid/PF 3/2006 Carlsbad, California Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrowTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:16 AM Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jean, I have a "three try rule" and I never go over it. The test is to help you and your doctor, not the technician. There are no prizes for completing it so many times you inure your lungs. I tell them in advance that the last time I went over the three rule try I was so wiped out I couldn't drive home or get out of bed for the next three days. When I complained to my pulmo afterwards she was shocked that they made me redo the tests so many times trying to get a "good" score. She said to stop when I was tired and rest, use o2 between tries and to listen to my body. Good luck with the tests. I'll be praying that all goes well. R. (52) Sarcoid/PF 3/2006 Carlsbad, California Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrowTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:16 AM Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jean ... what a marvelous attitude you have. That alone will give you power and impetus to keep going. I've been a peer counselor to seniors in other areas and it is so rewarding. I miss it. I finally just ran out of steam. I'm not able to do the volunteer work anymore and it was such a part of who I am but I think I'm adjusting now. Keep on keepin' on Jean! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow> > > > > Jeane> > So glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would go> that route as they need to.> > I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readings> on two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what I> can. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot to> another mall.> > > >> > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and> > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing> > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first> > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to> > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the> > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is> > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this> > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have> > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and> > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to> > something like 8 different things they test for.> >> > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok> > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am> > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I> > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock.> > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.> >> > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me> > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I> > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that> > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living.> > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until> > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.> >> > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped> > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the> > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to> > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By> > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my> > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jean ... what a marvelous attitude you have. That alone will give you power and impetus to keep going. I've been a peer counselor to seniors in other areas and it is so rewarding. I miss it. I finally just ran out of steam. I'm not able to do the volunteer work anymore and it was such a part of who I am but I think I'm adjusting now. Keep on keepin' on Jean! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow> > > > > Jeane> > So glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would go> that route as they need to.> > I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readings> on two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what I> can. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot to> another mall.> > > >> > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and> > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing> > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first> > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to> > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the> > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is> > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this> > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have> > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and> > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to> > something like 8 different things they test for.> >> > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok> > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am> > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I> > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock.> > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.> >> > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me> > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I> > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that> > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living.> > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until> > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.> >> > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped> > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the> > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to> > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By> > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my> > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Here’s one for you to MamaSher, Or it seemed like all the people around you just wanted to butt heads...So you can spell Ha! Have a great day, Bob, York From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Sher Bauman Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:10 PM To: Breathe-Support Subject: Re: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Bob... yeah, I know the days of the week too but I still called the chat board on Monday. Thursday is our chat day! MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. Nasturtiums Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Bob ... ahhhhh, ain't that sweet? Thanks. MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Really I can spell, You just wouldn’t know it today From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:24 PMTo: Breathe-Support Subject: RE: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 one time i put the o2 on between tries and the tech said i couldn't do that she explained why--something about the machine, i forget the exact reason but it made sense at the timePink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania From: jeane7160 <jeane7160 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrowTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:16 AM Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to something like 8 different things they test for.And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jeanne since your scarring first appeared in '01, you give me a lot of hope thanksPink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania >> Ahh, Jeane I love the spunk you show these lat people. When you get done> with them go for another spend in you new wheels. Have fun, Bob, York> > > > _____ > > From: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> [mailto:Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bruce Moreland> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:05 PM> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: Re: Pulmo visit tomorrow> > > > > Jeane> > So glad to see the scooter doing so much for you. Wish more would go> that route as they need to.> > I have some of the PFT's I just can't do. Some I've only gotten readings> on two times, but never in current doctor's office. I just do what I> can. I know it will be a tough day, but then tomorrow you can scoot to> another mall.> > > >> > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and> > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing> > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first> > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to> > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the> > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is> > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this> > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have> > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and> > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to> > something like 8 different things they test for.> >> > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok> > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am> > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I> > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock.> > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me.> >> > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me> > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I> > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that> > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living.> > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until> > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone.> >> > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped> > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the> > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to> > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By> > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my> > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I just got home a little while from the doctor's. Took a detour and stopped at this wonderful place to have some ribs. I considered it my reward for going thru the pulmonary function torture and the 6 minute or till you crook walk. My functions took a significant drop (10 %) across the board pretty much. But this is the first real serious drop at one time like that. My DLCO is now 42% but I refuse to let things get me down. It could be worse - that could have been my highest # instead of one of the lower ones. I will still keep on going on and fighting this. Heck sure beats the alternative. Why waste what time I have left on a pity party. I knew that there would be tests like this at times. I'm not happy with it but there is little I can do about it except use it to make me more determined to fight and find voices to yell about it for all of us. Maybe I will figure out a way to contact Obama's office again like I did before election day. I need to give him something more to think about besides which fortune 500 company needs a bailout next. We need a bailout here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Joyce i use the oxygen in between. i do know for the one they close the door for with the carbon dioxide i believe, they leave it outside the door but always have oxygen ready for me and tissues.. Me i just want oxygen and bed... lol they started at temple having a tech go through all the testing so they can experience it and know how it feels. after she had the pfts i asked her and she agreed it was tough and that's with somewhat good lungs.... patti, ipf 7'06,nj > > From: jeane7160 > Subject: Pulmo visit tomorrow > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:16 AM > > > > > Tomorrow is one of those days I dread. First comes the PFT's and > each time I go it seems they do more and more extensive testing > there. Everytime a different person administers it for the first > time they have to use their 7 try rule. You have to try 7 times to > duplicate each test and only after 7 tries will they move on to the > next. Each time they tell me the same thing, consecutive test is > worse than the one before. I tell them that is how it has been this > entire time but they still go by the 7 try rule. After they have > done the entire PFT's to me one time they know that is how I am and > don't use the 7 try rule. This is good since they are now up to > something like 8 different things they test for. > > And when they have me sufficiently worn down from that they say ok > lets go do the 6 min walk. Yeah, just can't wait for that one. I am > waiting for the time I land on the floor with such anticipation. I > really want to see if they pick you up and reset their clock. > Pulmonary lab torture chanber all the same to me. > > Then I get to see my doctor. He took a walk with me once and told me > if he went thru what I do to walk he would not be walking much. I > asked him if that meant he was hanging a toe tag on me because that > was the only thing that might stop me from trying to go on living. > Maybe - but I am still working on puter service to graves and until > that is worked out he might as well not consider me gone. > > I went to the mall for the first time in 6 years and window shopped > the entire mall. It was wonderful especially at this time of the > year with the little ones all dressed up waiting for their turn to > see santa. My scooter really has given me a new lease on life. By > the way, my doctor's remark about not trying to shop if he were in my > shoes was the push to get me to get the scooter. Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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