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Hi Betty,

Well, there are basal temps,which can help show some things. Your pulse is an

indicator; it's generally low with hypo and can go too high if you're hyper.

High temps with high pulse would be hypo. If you're temp isn't high and you have

a high pulse, it's generally not from t3, but maybe from adrenaline rushes or

even electrolyte imbalance.

And, of course, there is how you feel! :-) If you feel worse after taking

thyroid meds, that is often a sign you need to investigate whether your iron or

cortiol is off.

I wish we could prick our fingers and tell, but ah, we don't have something like

that yet. Although I DO prick my finger a lot to see if I am getting adrenaline

rushes due to low cortisol. ;-)

Kathleen

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> Frequently on this site there are references indicating that you take this or

do this or that until you are balanced, or at a good level. Diabetics use

finger sticks to know their level and can adjust where needed. But I see

statements that leads me to think that they know if they are high, low or

whatever and make changes to correct this. I understand (I think) how temp can

indicate levels. What are the other indicators that make you know what to do?

> Betty

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to Kathleen:

you said:

" Although I DO prick my finger a lot to see if I am

getting adrenaline rushes due to low cortisol. ;-) "

I ask:

what kind of test or ? do you use .....to LEARN that??

I'm almost absolutely POSITIVE that I get these

" adrenaline rushes " when I don't have enough

cortisol....but never knew there was a way to test

CORTISOL at home?

IS IT SOME KIND OF TEST STRIP? IF SO....HOW DO i GET

SOME?

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Hi Betty,

Well, there are basal temps,which can help show some

things. Your pulse is an indicator; it's generally

low with hypo and can go too high if you're hyper.

High temps with high pulse would be hypo. If you're

temp isn't high and you have a high pulse, it's

generally not from t3, but maybe from adrenaline

rushes or even electrolyte imbalance.

And, of course, there is how you feel! :-) If you

feel worse after taking thyroid meds, that is often a

sign you need to investigate whether your iron or

cortiol is off.

I wish we could prick our fingers and tell, but ah,

we don't have something like that yet. Although I DO

prick my finger a lot to see if I am getting

adrenaline rushes due to low cortisol. ;-)

Kathleen

>

> Frequently on this site there are references

indicating that you take this or do this or that

until you are balanced, or at a good level.

Diabetics use finger sticks to know their level and

can adjust where needed. But I see statements that

leads me to think that they know if they are high,

low or whatever and make changes to correct this. I

understand (I think) how temp can indicate levels.

What are the other indicators that make you know what

to do?

> Betty

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I'm sorry; I just mean the blood glucose test for diabetics. Val taught me this.

If you are having an adrenaline rush, your blood sugar will go up. If I wake up

feeling all wired and my heart pounding, sure enough my BS will be high. When I

wasn't on enough cortisol, this would happen a lot. For example, I know my BS's

normal range. When my cortisol was high, it would go WAY up when it normally

wouldn't have been high at all, like 2 hour after eating only protein and fat.

The high BS always correlated with being wired and my heart pounding and I knew

what I ate hadn't done it, so it was adrenaline.

I hope that makes sense!

Apparently it is adrenaline that makes us trembly when we run low on cortisol

and it raises BS very quickly.

Kathleen

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> > Frequently on this site there are references

> indicating that you take this or do this or that

> until you are balanced, or at a good level.

> Diabetics use finger sticks to know their level and

> can adjust where needed. But I see statements that

> leads me to think that they know if they are high,

> low or whatever and make changes to correct this. I

> understand (I think) how temp can indicate levels.

> What are the other indicators that make you know what

> to do?

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> > Betty

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Was written above: " High temps with high pulse would be hypo "

I thought high temp with high pulse means you are hyper and not hypo...was I

wrong?

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> > Frequently on this site there are references indicating that you take this

or do this or that until you are balanced, or at a good level. Diabetics use

finger sticks to know their level and can adjust where needed. But I see

statements that leads me to think that they know if they are high, low or

whatever and make changes to correct this. I understand (I think) how temp can

indicate levels. What are the other indicators that make you know what to do?

> > Betty

> >

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I appreciate all the response to my question and to the Cytomel

question.

I usually do not give much analysis or verbiage to how I feel.

Yesterday I started paying attention to it. Here is some misc

statements about it.

I feel like a glucose hypo when I am not. Real hypos don't make much

difference. I end up testing a lot to catch the real glucose hypos.

Today has not been a good day but my blood glucose couldn't be better;

better than usual. A low of 76 wakeup and high of 100 2 hours after

meal. I do not always do like that. I have not associated blood sugar

with other criteria. Today for a few minutes after I took the Cytomel I

felt a little better. I had bad tremors but they cleared some for a

few minutes.

My pulse rate has been around 100 for many months. I have been testing

it using store machines, my blood pressure cuff and the treadmill. A

few days ago in a doctor's office they checked me in with a pulse of

about 75. I remarked to the doctor that I didn't think that was right.

She checked by counting on my wrist. It was 102. She remarked those

machines are not accurate. After that I feel it's a waste, but don't

understand why it usually comes out about the same with all the

different means of testing it. I will now do it by counting the pulse.

I have not made a temp graph but it is low. Now I will. Is the basal

the first on wakeup? As to stability is it stable for the time of day

each day, or a daily average?

I appear to have fast pulse and low temp.

Ferritin. I have been anemic for years with low ferritin. Taking iron

does not help ferritin or anemia. Jan 09 the ferritin was 11

(13-150). I had an IV iron infusion which did not help with the anemia

but with a hugh impact on ferritin. April 09 it was 277, July 09 214,

Nov 09 161. I did not feel any effect. I don't know how to interpret

that with what I read here.

I will try the salt water test.

T4 5.8 (4.0-12.8)

TSH 4.90 (0.3-4.2)

Total T3 69 (70-170)

Free T3 220.00 (202-443)

Free T4 1.3 (0.7-1.9)

Ferritin 161 (13-150)

Betty

Nick Foot wrote:

>What are the other indicators that make you know what to do?

Temperature, both absolute and the stability of it and pulse rate are

the main things we can measure on a day to day basis.

This page is a discussion on whether or not to increase

http://thyroid-rt3.com/doineed.htm

Nick

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