Re: Getting temps to stabilise?

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As you felt a bit hyper since the change in iron meds, how long have you

been taking iron and how low was oyur Ferritin?

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[Guest guest]

As you felt a bit hyper since the change in iron meds, how long have you

been taking iron and how low was oyur Ferritin?

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[Guest guest]

As you felt a bit hyper since the change in iron meds, how long have you

been taking iron and how low was oyur Ferritin?

--

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" ladyarwenrose " wrote:

>

> No, I'm not taking a bedtime dose,

> Yesterday and today I'm at 12.5, 7.5, 5, 5 (I've been trying for every

> four hours, so it's roughly ~9am, 1pm, 5pm, 9pm; but sooner if spasms

> start up) and I've been getting some kind of mini-thyroid dump

You might start with a lower first dose like 10, and also, dose every 3

hours instead of 4. When your first dose of the day is too high, it

lowers your own cortisol production for the rest of the day, making you

more dependent on the rest of your doses. Try something like

10 / 7.5 / 7.5 / 5 / 2.5 at 9 a.m, noon, 3 p.m, 6 p.m., 9 p.m. This

might give you more coverage with closer dosing.

Good luck,

Barb

[Guest guest]

>

> As you felt a bit hyper since the change in iron meds, how long have

you

> been taking iron and how low was oyur Ferritin?

From Dec 27th:

Ferritin - 30 (10-291)

Iron - 112 (35-155)

I started taking *extra* iron right after the blood draw for the test,

so Dec 27th. Minus the two months before that test, I've taken 18-27

mg iron since my early teens (so for a good 13-15 years...I don't

quite remember exactly when).

On Jan 15th (after about 2.5, almost 3 weeks?) I switched the 65 mg

ferrous sulfate of mom's to 64 mg ferrous fumarate in a liquigel (as I

figured it'd work better...and, yep, apparently!). I've been taking

the iron with plenty of Vit C, especially since Jan 7th or 8th, when I

got the test back. And, odd note (and I think I already mentioned it)

but since the 2nd or 3rd day of taking the new iron, I've had more

adrenal pain ('there', all day), and a return of adrenal spasms during

the day (rather than just at night).

Random note, but, also around that time, I finally got up to about

4,000 IU of Vit D (but the Vit D doesn't seem to do much to temps,

that I can tell).

B12 was in the upper 500s, but I'm sure was skewed high from

supplementing--and I figured would up my temps like the iron has,

although now I'm not sure what it'll do with my temps already a bit

high, although temps might drop by tomorrow, too. lol

~Jen

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> You might start with a lower first dose like 10, and also, dose every 3

> hours instead of 4. When your first dose of the day is too high, it

> lowers your own cortisol production for the rest of the day, making you

> more dependent on the rest of your doses. Try something like

> 10 / 7.5 / 7.5 / 5 / 2.5 at 9 a.m, noon, 3 p.m, 6 p.m., 9 p.m. This

> might give you more coverage with closer dosing.

>

> Good luck,

> Barb

Actually, I was at 5 doses for about a week, but switched to four to

get up to 10 in the morning (and stay at the same dose). I couldn't

figure out how to get a nice drop, and kept seeing that it was better

to wait the 4 hours, if possible. The five did help keep things a bit

more even. Still wore off a bit, but not as much.

I suppose I could go back to that, then? I actually figured I might

once I had more to work with/split between the doses. It'd have to

wait until tomorrow, since it's too late today, I think (so far just

taken the 12.5 when I got up, though).

Wait, do you mean 10 / 7.5 / 5 / 5 / 2.5 (for a total of 30 instead of

32.5) ? Granted, I'll probably need to go to 32.5 soon, anyway, but

today is just my fourth day at 30 mg.

And thanks,

Jen

[Guest guest]

Mine took about 2.5 months but I had to keep increasing my cortisol to get

there and then they tend to crash during my period and when I add in T3. You

can't get up in the morning very likely due to low cortisol. Have your HC

next to your bed and when the alarm goes off, force yourself to take it to

see if that helps. Also, increasing the morning dose of HC is sometimes

necessary.

Cheri

Getting temps to stabilise?

Okay, I've kinda been putting this question(s) off, because I thought

temps would start levelling out by now!

Also, random question: Is the 'can't get up in the morning' problem

solvable? Takes me 1-1.5 hours till I'm awake enough to even get to

the HC. After HC, I can get up just fine in 10-30 minutes. It is

better than the 4 hours or so it was taking before the HC, though,

so... lol

~Jen

.

[Guest guest]

>

> Mine took about 2.5 months but I had to keep increasing my cortisol

to get

> there and then they tend to crash during my period and when I add in

T3. You

> can't get up in the morning very likely due to low cortisol. Have

your HC

> next to your bed and when the alarm goes off, force yourself to take

it to

> see if that helps. Also, increasing the morning dose of HC is sometimes

> necessary.

> Cheri

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what do you do with your period?

I've actually been worrying about this, and figured I'd possibly need

to do some sort of stress dose for the first day or two, but haven't

really thought of where/when/how much! My last one hit right about

when I started doing the 2.5 raised per day, and I forgot all about

what to do 'next' time, which is approaching (or should be...I think).

Right now my temps seem to drop whenever I do anything remotely

stressful (ie, leaving the house for anything...really, just 'little'

things).

Since I got to 10 in the morning, I haven't had as much trouble

actually getting up, and I haven't decided if the 12.5 is worth it or

not...but today's just the third day of that. Tomorrow will be the

test, as I have to actually leave the house.

Right at first the problem is more that I'm really, really incoherent

(brain NOT awake to give any 'orders')--and very stiff. Those two

things are what's making it hard to get to anything remotely quickly.

I need to try moving some things around, as I don't actually have an

end-table/table like thing nearby. *blush*

[Guest guest]

>

> Mine took about 2.5 months but I had to keep increasing my cortisol

to get

> there and then they tend to crash during my period and when I add in

T3. You

> can't get up in the morning very likely due to low cortisol. Have

your HC

> next to your bed and when the alarm goes off, force yourself to take

it to

> see if that helps. Also, increasing the morning dose of HC is sometimes

> necessary.

> Cheri

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what do you do with your period?

I've actually been worrying about this, and figured I'd possibly need

to do some sort of stress dose for the first day or two, but haven't

really thought of where/when/how much! My last one hit right about

when I started doing the 2.5 raised per day, and I forgot all about

what to do 'next' time, which is approaching (or should be...I think).

Right now my temps seem to drop whenever I do anything remotely

stressful (ie, leaving the house for anything...really, just 'little'

things).

Since I got to 10 in the morning, I haven't had as much trouble

actually getting up, and I haven't decided if the 12.5 is worth it or

not...but today's just the third day of that. Tomorrow will be the

test, as I have to actually leave the house.

Right at first the problem is more that I'm really, really incoherent

(brain NOT awake to give any 'orders')--and very stiff. Those two

things are what's making it hard to get to anything remotely quickly.

I need to try moving some things around, as I don't actually have an

end-table/table like thing nearby. *blush*

[Guest guest]

>

> Mine took about 2.5 months but I had to keep increasing my cortisol

to get

> there and then they tend to crash during my period and when I add in

T3. You

> can't get up in the morning very likely due to low cortisol. Have

your HC

> next to your bed and when the alarm goes off, force yourself to take

it to

> see if that helps. Also, increasing the morning dose of HC is sometimes

> necessary.

> Cheri

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what do you do with your period?

I've actually been worrying about this, and figured I'd possibly need

to do some sort of stress dose for the first day or two, but haven't

really thought of where/when/how much! My last one hit right about

when I started doing the 2.5 raised per day, and I forgot all about

what to do 'next' time, which is approaching (or should be...I think).

Right now my temps seem to drop whenever I do anything remotely

stressful (ie, leaving the house for anything...really, just 'little'

things).

Since I got to 10 in the morning, I haven't had as much trouble

actually getting up, and I haven't decided if the 12.5 is worth it or

not...but today's just the third day of that. Tomorrow will be the

test, as I have to actually leave the house.

Right at first the problem is more that I'm really, really incoherent

(brain NOT awake to give any 'orders')--and very stiff. Those two

things are what's making it hard to get to anything remotely quickly.

I need to try moving some things around, as I don't actually have an

end-table/table like thing nearby. *blush*

[Guest guest]

Well, the first few months were that bad but this last month I really

crashed so I am going to stress dose during my period this month as soon as

I feel symptoms or see my daily temps crash. Last month it happened about

the third day of my period.

I also notice since I switched from Isocort to HC cream that I seem to be

getting more cortisol so I may end up lowering my dosage overall (35 mg) and

then upping 5 mg to stress dose on the period days. I have never stressed

dosed so I am not sure what will work until I try.

Cheri

Re: Getting temps to stabilise?

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[Guest guest]

Well, the first few months were that bad but this last month I really

crashed so I am going to stress dose during my period this month as soon as

I feel symptoms or see my daily temps crash. Last month it happened about

the third day of my period.

I also notice since I switched from Isocort to HC cream that I seem to be

getting more cortisol so I may end up lowering my dosage overall (35 mg) and

then upping 5 mg to stress dose on the period days. I have never stressed

dosed so I am not sure what will work until I try.

Cheri

Re: Getting temps to stabilise?

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[Guest guest]

Well, the first few months were that bad but this last month I really

crashed so I am going to stress dose during my period this month as soon as

I feel symptoms or see my daily temps crash. Last month it happened about

the third day of my period.

I also notice since I switched from Isocort to HC cream that I seem to be

getting more cortisol so I may end up lowering my dosage overall (35 mg) and

then upping 5 mg to stress dose on the period days. I have never stressed

dosed so I am not sure what will work until I try.

Cheri

Re: Getting temps to stabilise?

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[Guest guest]

>

> Well, the first few months were that bad but this last month I really

> crashed so I am going to stress dose during my period this month as

soon as

> I feel symptoms or see my daily temps crash. Last month it happened

about

> the third day of my period.

>

> I also notice since I switched from Isocort to HC cream that I seem

to be

> getting more cortisol so I may end up lowering my dosage overall (35

mg) and

> then upping 5 mg to stress dose on the period days. I have never

stressed

> dosed so I am not sure what will work until I try.

>

> Cheri

Yeah, I've not really stress dosed either, as I'm trying to watch

temps and stuff to get an idea of what need 'extra', first--but period

is more going to actually need it, I think, although I'll definitely

wait until I start feeling it's needed.

I've just normally always gotten that 'crash' around late day 2 and

day 3 (temps have always been too random to show anything). It was

late 2nd day when my adrenals sorta crashed in August (which I much

later realised I really should have gone to the ER for), so I know

that's a stressful time. If I pass out, though (haven't for a

while--seems to be either pain and/or low BP...and then laying down,

so mostly avoidable), it's always that first day!

~Jen