Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

[Guest guest]

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

>Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.

>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,

How long had you been on T3?

Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??

What are temperature and pulse?

It sounds hypo to me

Nick

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[Guest guest]

>Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.

>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,

How long had you been on T3?

Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??

What are temperature and pulse?

It sounds hypo to me

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.

>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,

How long had you been on T3?

Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??

What are temperature and pulse?

It sounds hypo to me

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

Been on t3 for a year. seems I keep having to juggle things. Have upped isocort from 6 to 12-14 in that time.

Yes blooddraw for the ft3's each time was 12 hrs later. This recent bloodwork not..but no ft3 taken.

100mcg was too high( per dr and val)

75mcg was too low ( per my tendonitis and hair)

now 87mcg I am feeling the (stomach distress sort of like diarrea and pinching heart )

I just dont know if I should take even less?

also what do you make of the sudden high sodium? and was my potassium high or low?>Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,How long had you been on T3?Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??What are temperature and pulse?It sounds hypo to meNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Been on t3 for a year. seems I keep having to juggle things. Have upped isocort from 6 to 12-14 in that time.

Yes blooddraw for the ft3's each time was 12 hrs later. This recent bloodwork not..but no ft3 taken.

100mcg was too high( per dr and val)

75mcg was too low ( per my tendonitis and hair)

now 87mcg I am feeling the (stomach distress sort of like diarrea and pinching heart )

I just dont know if I should take even less?

also what do you make of the sudden high sodium? and was my potassium high or low?>Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,How long had you been on T3?Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??What are temperature and pulse?It sounds hypo to meNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Been on t3 for a year. seems I keep having to juggle things. Have upped isocort from 6 to 12-14 in that time.

Yes blooddraw for the ft3's each time was 12 hrs later. This recent bloodwork not..but no ft3 taken.

100mcg was too high( per dr and val)

75mcg was too low ( per my tendonitis and hair)

now 87mcg I am feeling the (stomach distress sort of like diarrea and pinching heart )

I just dont know if I should take even less?

also what do you make of the sudden high sodium? and was my potassium high or low?>Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,How long had you been on T3?Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??What are temperature and pulse?It sounds hypo to meNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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low pulse, dizzy >Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,How long had you been on T3?Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??What are temperature and pulse?It sounds hypo to meNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

low pulse, dizzy >Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,How long had you been on T3?Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??What are temperature and pulse?It sounds hypo to meNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

low pulse, dizzy >Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.>Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,How long had you been on T3?Had you stopped T3 12 hours before the blood draw??What are temperature and pulse?It sounds hypo to meNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

well Im sure Im low in magnesium..but didnt realize that would affect things. Potassium makes sense..but my level was 4.0 Nick didnt comment on it so not sure if I should take it. I think I feel better on it..

You said your heart pounded..? But mine feels like not enough oxygen.

Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

well Im sure Im low in magnesium..but didnt realize that would affect things. Potassium makes sense..but my level was 4.0 Nick didnt comment on it so not sure if I should take it. I think I feel better on it..

You said your heart pounded..? But mine feels like not enough oxygen.

Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

well Im sure Im low in magnesium..but didnt realize that would affect things. Potassium makes sense..but my level was 4.0 Nick didnt comment on it so not sure if I should take it. I think I feel better on it..

You said your heart pounded..? But mine feels like not enough oxygen.

Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

4.0 is still low for potassium. Magnesium is important for you to be able to use the potassium you have. http://www.easy-immune-health.com/signs-of-magnesium-deficiency.html

My heart felt like it was beating to hard, not to fast, just slamming into my chest. I could feel it everywhere, my feet, teeth, fingers, eyes! I'm sure everyone will feel differently.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:54:47 AMSubject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

well Im sure Im low in magnesium..but didnt realize that would affect things. Potassium makes sense..but my level was 4.0 Nick didnt comment on it so not sure if I should take it. I think I feel better on it..

You said your heart pounded..? But mine feels like not enough oxygen.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

I am taking potassium and magnesium as we speak. I took a magnesium bath. I also remember my bloodwork showed high anoin gap. I think it means too acid ...? So I just statred to take bicabonate too. I am worried because I have been throwing up this am, I am still nauseaos in my liver and headache, and cant get up. I have a drs visit on monday and then one on friday. thank you for caring.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

If you are throwing up and are taking HC you need to go to the ER. That can be dangerous especially if you can't get up!

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 6:38:44 PMSubject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

I am taking potassium and magnesium as we speak. I took a magnesium bath. I also remember my bloodwork showed high anoin gap. I think it means too acid ...? So I just statred to take bicabonate too. I am worried because I have been throwing up this am, I am still nauseaos in my liver and headache, and cant get up. I have a drs visit on monday and then one on friday. thank you for caring.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

I was going to go to the er...but they will take my ft3 and tsh and Ive already taken t3 today..scared they will just say its too much t3. dont knw what to do

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

what will they do for me is the real question. I have been to the er for 8 yrs and never ever been helped once. they will give me fluids and take bloodwork after 10 hours of waiting

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

are you taking HC now? Are you still throwing up? dehydration is the big concern. How are you feeling now? I can certainly sympathize with not wanting to go! Hate ER trips...

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 6:56:36 PMSubject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

what will they do for me is the real question. I have been to the er for 8 yrs and never ever been helped once. they will give me fluids and take bloodwork after 10 hours of waiting

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

I just got back to a nearby small urgent care...I am very confused as many of my labs were differnet than those the other day. Feel awful..maybe I should do a phone consult w/val as none of my questions have been answered here. I think there are just too many people needing help.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

What did they say exactly? Maybe you should call Val

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 8:37:12 PMSubject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

I just got back to a nearby small urgent care...I am very confused as many of my labs were differnet than those the other day. Feel awful..maybe I should do a phone consult w/val as none of my questions have been answered here. I think there are just too many people needing help.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodiumTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM

maybe low potassium and magnesium? Are you taking anything for either? My heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe you need to go to HC? Not sure since I don't know the entire history.

Kitty

From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23 PMSubject: whoops I was low pulse/ low sodium

Help. I was low sodium..then low potassiumNow recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,sodium 147 H (135-145)potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)anion gap 19 H (4-18)urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)and WBC still is and always LOWMCH is LOWANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more Isocort due to exhaustion. I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5 ft3.But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis that caused me to not be able to walk for months. I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15 isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

[Guest guest]

Here's the link to arrange a call with Val:

http://www.ingenio.com/ArrangedCalls/ArrangeCallback.aspx

Before the call, it may be helpful to have ready:

Recent test results

A list of your symptoms

A list of your questions

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heart would pound very hard before I started to supplement both things. Maybe

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> From: leisamelanie <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

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> Help. I was low sodium..then low potassium

> Now recently Im so tired and sqeezing like no oxygen in heart.

> Well the bloodwork came back...I dont understand but,

> sodium 147 H (135-145)

> potassium 4.0 (3.5- 5.2)

> anion gap 19 H (4-18)

> urine osmoality 220 L (300-900)

> and WBC still is and always LOW

> MCH is LOW

> ANY CLUES? I do eat very low carb. I dont take salt, but try to eat

plenty..especially since it's always been low. I have been trying to take more

Isocort due to exhaustion.

> I was told by my Dr and Val to lower my t3 from 100mcg to 75mg..due to 7.5

ft3.

> But then my hair got worse and I got a severe incapacitating hip tendonitis

that caused me to not be able to walk for months.

> I recently went back up on t3 in between the 2 amounts to 87.mcg. I take 12-15

isocort a day. Thank you, leisa

>

[Guest guest]

Leisa,

Sorry you are feeling so unwell at work. :-( If I weren't able to work from

home, I would be unemployed myself. So please do NOT worry yet. I have been at

this 5 years and only NOW starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Ok, Nick wrote and said he agreed it sounds adrenal.

I know when, at the prompting of one doc who was sure I was going to kill myself

with HC, I weaned off before ready, I remember having this episodes of not being

able to breathe, like I couldn't get in enough air. It woke me up several times

and was scary but would happen during the day as well. And no, I don't have

sleep apena. I was having a ton of other low cortisol symptoms, so I never what

it was. I read on the STTM site that air hunger is low cortisol for some people,

maybe because when your cortisol is low, the t3 can't get into your cells, I

don't know.

At any rate, your 14 Isocort only equals about 21 mg HC. I just did the math. I

am guessing you need more!

I was only taking 11.25 HC because I was scared of it and went up to 25 at Val's

encouragement and OMG, what a difference.

Why not try taking more Isocrot and at least see if it helps you? Taking more

for a few days is not going to hurt you one bit and you caould easily go back

down after a few days if you saw no improvemment at all.

Also, the potassium -- I had to take about 3500 mg to get the effects of

relaxing my heart and stopping the pounding (along with raising HC, which also

causes pounding when it's too in me). I just use NOW brand powered K+. 1/4 tsp

is 750 mg K+ so it's very easy to take and it's dirt cheap! :-)

I also bumped my magnesium back up since I'm taking at least 1:1 ratio with

calcium. Yes, I take a LOT of magnesium, at least 1000 mg a day, but boy did it

help with my heart and also to relax. If you take mag glycinate, it shouldn't

cause too many bowel problems. Or the topical is good, too, I saw you were doing

espsom baths. I think you can even buy magnesium cream.

If the 87.5 t3 seesm to make you feel better and your labs are high, it could be

pooling because your cortisol is low. And the oxygen thing -- it didn't go away

decreasing the t3, so again, I think you may need more Isocort.

I know Dr. Lowe's patient all have very high ft3 because most of his patients

are thyroid resistant and just need a lot, but unfortunately, I have not idea

what their actual ranges are. But ft3 of 700 -- if Val said that is too high, I

trust her completely and likely you are pooling due t low cortsiol.

Why not try an extra 6 Isocort today and see if you feel better?

Kathleen

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> wow thanks Kathleen! still waiting to hear from Nick or Val too...But..

> the reason I am confused is because yeah, I keep thinking the feeling of no

oxegen is low t3..so I take more..but Val said it was high( over range) and then

I felt some better lowering it but then had the horrible hip pain.

> Now Im back upping the dose to 87mcg and feeling the heart thing..but also

stomach pains like hyper...thats why Im confused. Cant find a happy medium..and

not sure why I feel this exhaustion.

> I will take more magnesium..and right now will try potassium. I skipped my t3

dose this morning because of how bad I feel..in the stomach.

>

[Guest guest]

Have you ever received a diagnosis of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? I'm sure you

could find a doctor who would give you that label. ;-) I know that S.Security

does recognize CFS now as a reason for disability. I had a link one time to the

steps to get SS if you have CFS. I don't remember it now, but I bet if you

googled it, you could find lots of info. You gotta do what ya gotta do. Uh...you

are in the U.S., right? Sorry if I just wrote all that and you live in the U.K.

or somewhere else!

I have my own skincare website, so that's how I work from home. I have been

meaning to update it for 2 years now. It looks sort of crappy, IMO, but people

stil buy stuff, lol.

Ideas? You could look into drop shipping items that you sell on ebay. That's

something I've heard of. If you google it, I think you could find lots of info,

but watch out for those scams that try to tell you how to do it for gobs of $$$!

But it is a legitimate business one can get into.

Oops, sorry, yes 6 is about 9 mg. I think I threw that out because you were so

ill, it sounded like you might need to stress dose for a couple days to try to

get back on your feet. I don't think 2 will be enough, but you can certainly

try. You may need to do 3, which is a bit closer to 25 mg HC total.

About your dosing, well, only you know what makes you feel better, but you

probably know you're supposed to take more in the AM and less throughout the

day. :-) So you might want to add in your 2 pellets both to your AM dose to try

to get a better rythym going. I don't know if you'll need a bedtime dose or not.

Okay, the reason you probably feel good in the AM is because you wake up with

some cortisol and then you use it all up and don't have any left for the rest of

the day, so you're taking extra later and closer together to try to make up for

it. If you take more in the AM, your adrenals won't get pounded try to make more

later on.

It's okay to dose every 3 hours, but you should dose before you start to go

downhill.

So maybe

7 - 5

10 - 5

1 - 4

4- 3

If you feel crappy later on, maybe move 1 pellet from the 10 dose and take it 7

or bedtime. You'll just have to play with it. I am just trying to help here as

I'm certainly NO dosing expert and I'm not a mod, either. I had to play with my

HC to figure out how much to take to relieve symptoms and tolerate t3, but I do

take more in the AM and less as the day goes on.

Well, I'll tell you something interesting: HC makes my swelling go down and I

figure it's because i don't use my t3 if I my HC is too low.

But then recently, this time, I still had a tad edema and then when I added

potassium, I was having to get up to pee like 3 times a night for a couple days

and I thought, oh no, now what's going on. then I read another post where Val

told someone that peeing like that after starting potassium is because it gets

rid of excess fluid. WHEW! It stopped after a couple of days and I have my

ankles back, lol.

yes, I have magnesium malate and take that every day. Iget cheap powders at:

www.beyondacenturyonline.com But i warn you powdered magnesium is not the most

tasty!

Yes, I think the problems with finding a dose of t3 will work out when you take

a tad more Isocort. they have for me anyway.

I've had docs that wanted me on no HC and docs that put me on 50! I figure it's

not so bad being " addicted " to HC. When I wasn't taking enough, I got addicted

to Xanax because I was so panicky from all the adrenaline rushes. Coming off

Xanas is much worse than coming off HC, let me tell you.

Also, every time I have come off HC, my adrenals come back just fine -- right

back to where they were -- not working well, ha ha. BUT Val has told me that the

t3 will help heal them, so we'll see!

Kathleen

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