If iodine causes problems for me, then will T4, also?

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Hi all

I had to cut back on my cytomel because my ex doctor (who stank!) had me cut way

back from 85 to 55 mcg. I had to do this anyway, as I was still getting high

heart rates and I could not figure out why. I am now on an elimination diet to

see if food sensitivity could be behind the resistance. My RT3 levels were

actually low last I checked. I am pretty hypo feeling now, with dry skin,

extreme fatigue, etc.

I tried iodine once or twice to see if I could tolerate it, but no such luck. I

had awful hypo symptoms right away, which I guess means it kicked up my hashis?

Anyway, I would like to try adding a small amount of naturethroid in with my

cytomel, but I am worried I will start making RT3 again. Is my reaction to

iodine an indication that I will not handle the T4 well? Or is my reaction to

iodine just about the hashimoto's and not the RT3 tendency?

Thanks!

Liz

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I am bumping this...apologies!

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> Hi all

> I had to cut back on my cytomel because my ex doctor (who stank!) had me cut

way back from 85 to 55 mcg. I had to do this anyway, as I was still getting high

heart rates and I could not figure out why. I am now on an elimination diet to

see if food sensitivity could be behind the resistance. My RT3 levels were

actually low last I checked. I am pretty hypo feeling now, with dry skin,

extreme fatigue, etc.

> I tried iodine once or twice to see if I could tolerate it, but no such luck.

I had awful hypo symptoms right away, which I guess means it kicked up my

hashis?

> Anyway, I would like to try adding a small amount of naturethroid in with my

cytomel, but I am worried I will start making RT3 again. Is my reaction to

iodine an indication that I will not handle the T4 well? Or is my reaction to

iodine just about the hashimoto's and not the RT3 tendency?

> Thanks!

> Liz

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HYpo symptoms from iodine are from RT3 rising not Hashi's.

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http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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I really dont; knwo btu on the iodine group I am sure you would hear it

si a Herx reaction. ly I dont; believe every bad reaction to iodine

is Herxing. I did nto react that immediately to iodine it took a few

weeks, btu my own reaciton was not only much higher RT3 btu swellign in

my thyroid to the point of choking on everything and antibodies that are

normally VERY supressed skyrocketing.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> Oh, also, do you think it is possible to feel such an immediate RT3 reaction?

It happened right after I took the iodine.

> Thanks

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>> HYpo symptoms from iodine are from RT3 rising not Hashi's.

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>> http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

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>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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Amen on the " herxing. " Every hypoT symptom iodine users get are supposedly detox

according to the proponents. ERRR.... sorry if I offend anyone here with my

comments.

I had several alt. docs freak out when I said I wasn't on iodine. I tried it and

went HORRIDLY hypo and got the worst air hunger ever. The worst experience of my

life. I got labs and yes, it had made my ft4 and my rt3 higher, but not my ft3.

Totally agree with Val!

Kathleen

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> >> HYpo symptoms from iodine are from RT3 rising not Hashi's.

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> >> http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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> >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

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> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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[Guest guest]

Thanks ladies. Yes, I notice the same thing about people using herxing or

detoxing as an explanation about anything that people are really into (special

diets, iodine, etc). Sometimes whatever that thing is just doesn't agree with

some people! LOL

Kathleen, when you took the iodine did you feel bad right away? Or did it take

a while as it did with Val?

Have you tried to go back on some T4? If so, were you successful?

Also, if one goes back on T4, how soon does it take to feel it a bad reaction?

I have to wonder sometimes if my own problems with T4 stems from the fact that I

started on T3 only, and I had been on that for like 7 years before trying

naturethroid. Do you think that if the body gets used to only T3, it will reject

T4 after a while?

Thanks

Liz

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> > >> HYpo symptoms from iodine are from RT3 rising not Hashi's.

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> > >> http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > >> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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> > >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > >> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

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> > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> > >> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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It took a little while, probably within a month, though, so not too long. Of

course, like a fool, I kept sticking with it becauase the alt. doc I was working

with was sure it helped the thyroid receptors. HOW it would do THAT I have do

idea, lol!

No, I haven't tried to go back on t4. I just now this year cleared my rt3 and am

starting to feel like a normal person again. I seriously doubt I will ever go

back on t4 as I feel good on t3 and I don't know why my body doesn't convert t4

to t3. Maybe it's my adrenals, so maybe ONE day I will try to go off the t3 when

my adrenals heal BUT I would have no need to take t4 if I did because my ft4 is

optimal without meds. It just won't convert to ft3. :-( My throid itself isn't

the problem, it's the failure to convert properly that is the problem.

IF you went back on t4, it might happen fairly fast that you feel badly if it's

not converting to t3 properly. Within a matter of weeks or even less!

I haven't really studied it or anything, but I don't see why your body would

reject t4 IF it can use it properly, even if you've been on t3 only for a long

time. I mean, think of all the people who were on t4 only for decades and then

discovered t3. Their bodies certainly remembered how to use that t3. :-)

Why did you go on t3 only? If you had a good reason, like rt3 problems I am

assuming, maybe there is no good reason to change.

Kathleen

> Kathleen, when you took the iodine did you feel bad right away? Or did it

take a while as it did with Val?

> Have you tried to go back on some T4? If so, were you successful?

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> Also, if one goes back on T4, how soon does it take to feel it a bad reaction?

>

> I have to wonder sometimes if my own problems with T4 stems from the fact that

I started on T3 only, and I had been on that for like 7 years before trying

naturethroid. Do you think that if the body gets used to only T3, it will reject

T4 after a while?

>

> Thanks

> Liz

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Hi Kathleen

I am so glad you are feeling good on T3. That is great news! I agree, if it

ain't broke...

In my case, I first started taking cytomel because my basal temps were really

low and I was being treated for depression and the meds were not working that

well (family history of depression and thyroid stuff), so I researched and found

that some psychiatrists were using T3 to augment treatment-resistant depression

protocol. I took 25 mcg per day and it really worked. I felt great. I had always

suspected thyroid stuff, but I had previously tried to take synthroid and it

didn't work, so i though maybe it wasn't true, but then I read about cytomel,

and it DID work.

Then a new alt doc I saw a couple of years ago wanted to put me on naturethroid

after I tested positive for hashi's and bc my T4 was low (because of the

cytomel).

After going on naturethroid, I got the RT3 stuff, and had to go back to cytomel,

except now I need waaaayyyy more cytomel to achieve the same effect as only 25

mcg gave me before. It makes me mad because now I have side effects like high

SHBG and high pulse rates that I didn't have on lower cytomel doses. The thing

is, the alt doctor also had me on high iodine doses at the same time as the

naturethroid, and after my recent bad immediate reaction to the iodine, I wonder

if it was the iodine, not the naturethroid, which was making me feel so awful

and giving the bad RT3 problems.

I wish I could take some T4 so my SBGH would go down.

Basically I can't go back to lower doses of cytomel like I used to take, because

the RT3 thing permanently changed my system. So now I am hoping I can tolerate

some T4. I dunno, though. It doesn't look good.

I don't understand why I have such an immediate reaction to the iodine. It

doesn't make sense...

Thanks for the info! Sorry to go on and on!

Liz

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> It took a little while, probably within a month, though, so not too long. Of

course, like a fool, I kept sticking with it becauase the alt. doc I was working

with was sure it helped the thyroid receptors. HOW it would do THAT I have do

idea, lol!

>

> No, I haven't tried to go back on t4. I just now this year cleared my rt3 and

am starting to feel like a normal person again. I seriously doubt I will ever go

back on t4 as I feel good on t3 and I don't know why my body doesn't convert t4

to t3. Maybe it's my adrenals, so maybe ONE day I will try to go off the t3 when

my adrenals heal BUT I would have no need to take t4 if I did because my ft4 is

optimal without meds. It just won't convert to ft3. :-( My throid itself isn't

the problem, it's the failure to convert properly that is the problem.

>

> IF you went back on t4, it might happen fairly fast that you feel badly if

it's not converting to t3 properly. Within a matter of weeks or even less!

>

> I haven't really studied it or anything, but I don't see why your body would

reject t4 IF it can use it properly, even if you've been on t3 only for a long

time. I mean, think of all the people who were on t4 only for decades and then

discovered t3. Their bodies certainly remembered how to use that t3. :-)

>

> Why did you go on t3 only? If you had a good reason, like rt3 problems I am

assuming, maybe there is no good reason to change.

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> Kathleen

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> > Kathleen, when you took the iodine did you feel bad right away? Or did it

take a while as it did with Val?

> > Have you tried to go back on some T4? If so, were you successful?

> >

> > Also, if one goes back on T4, how soon does it take to feel it a bad

reaction?

> >

> > I have to wonder sometimes if my own problems with T4 stems from the fact

that I started on T3 only, and I had been on that for like 7 years before trying

naturethroid. Do you think that if the body gets used to only T3, it will reject

T4 after a while?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Liz

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