Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 <<First off I'm reading over the two language samples that the SLP gave me and it's all 's responses and conversation as they're working on some kind of project. Now I'm realizing how this is helpful in reporting grammatical errors or other speech errors, including articulation but I think there's something seriously lacking in not having the other people's conversation transcribed. How do we determine if 's responses are appropriate based on the other speakers or if he heard them? >> All of Neal's language samples have always had only his half of the conversations. You're right that it doesn't tell much about appropriate use of language or if he heard correctly. They didn't do any tests to check how well Neal hears actually. They did picture cards asking what he would say in various circumstances to determine if he knew the appropriate language that someone his age should. Silly way to test that IMHO, and I told them many times that testing him in an ideal one on one setting told us nothing about how he would do in real life. By the way, when you said your district was telling you that the testing would be unnecessary stress on the child it made me chuckle. Neal has in HEAVEN during his testing. He loved having a bunch of adults paying all of their attention to him and being excited about how well he was doing. Even though he wasn't on his medication yet at that time, he had no problem staying focused and doing a good job because he loved it so much. LOL So the amount of stress it puts on a kid is relative. Rhonda Savage Mom to Audrey, 8, hearing; and Neal, 6, CII at 2.9 years " Hard does not mean impossible. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 <<It has to be someone who is not soft spoken, doens't have an accent, and has good classroom managment skills. Also it's best to ask for someone who is not afriad of technology>> That was me who asked for a teacher not afraid of technology. I definitely think it was helpful to have taken that into consideration. As far as the voice goes though, we actually ended up choosing the most soft spoken Kinder teacher at the school. We figured that technology (sound field) could help that, but it couldn't change the teaching styles of the other teachers, and her style was a better match to Neal. We're already thinking about the 1st grade teacher we want and it's looking like it's going to end up being another soft spoken woman. Now we know though that it can be dealt with with the Radium, and hopefully someday a working FM. Rhonda Savage Mom to Audrey, 8, hearing; and Neal, 6, CII at 2.9 years " Hard does not mean impossible. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Oh yes - we aren't allowed to " ask " for a teacher in any given year but I also do say we can't have a technophobe! Barbara Rhonda Savage wrote: ><<It has to be someone who is not soft spoken, doens't have an accent, and has good classroom managment skills. Also it's best to ask for someone who is not afriad of technology>> > >That was me who asked for a teacher not afraid of technology. I definitely think it was helpful to have taken that into consideration. As far as the voice goes though, we actually ended up choosing the most soft spoken Kinder teacher at the school. We figured that technology (sound field) could help that, but it couldn't change the teaching styles of the other teachers, and her style was a better match to Neal. We're already thinking about the 1st grade teacher we want and it's looking like it's going to end up being another soft spoken woman. Now we know though that it can be dealt with with the Radium, and hopefully someday a working FM. > >Rhonda Savage >Mom to Audrey, 8, hearing; and Neal, 6, CII at 2.9 years > " Hard does not mean impossible. " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:02:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Oh yes - we aren't allowed to " ask " for a teacher in any given year but I also do say we can't have a technophobe! Barbara My response to being told that I could not request a certain teacher was to inform them that they could accommodate me now and place my children appropriately, or face the trouble I'd cause getting my child into the classroom of my choice. They pretty much said " yes, ma'am " because there was a definite rationale behind every one of my choices/requests. Depending on the reason for your hand-picking the teacher, districts can accommodate you even if it is technically " against the rules. " I've managed to handpick teachers for the past 3-4 years. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:02:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Oh yes - we aren't allowed to " ask " for a teacher in any given year but I also do say we can't have a technophobe! Barbara My response to being told that I could not request a certain teacher was to inform them that they could accommodate me now and place my children appropriately, or face the trouble I'd cause getting my child into the classroom of my choice. They pretty much said " yes, ma'am " because there was a definite rationale behind every one of my choices/requests. Depending on the reason for your hand-picking the teacher, districts can accommodate you even if it is technically " against the rules. " I've managed to handpick teachers for the past 3-4 years. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I did " nicely " tell them that if Sam ended up with a certain teacher this year, I'd bein the principal's office requesting a change - they got that! Sam actually has the same teacher Tom had (and he was perfect - had worked with deaf/hoh kids previous to Tom). Sam's having a good year. Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: > >In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:02:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: > >Oh yes - we aren't allowed to " ask " for a teacher in any given year but >I also do say we can't have a technophobe! > >Barbara > > > > >My response to being told that I could not request a certain teacher was to >inform them that they could accommodate me now and place my children >appropriately, or face the trouble I'd cause getting my child into the classroom of >my choice. They pretty much said " yes, ma'am " because there was a definite >rationale behind every one of my choices/requests. > >Depending on the reason for your hand-picking the teacher, districts can >accommodate you even if it is technically " against the rules. " I've managed to >handpick teachers for the past 3-4 years. > >Best -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I did " nicely " tell them that if Sam ended up with a certain teacher this year, I'd bein the principal's office requesting a change - they got that! Sam actually has the same teacher Tom had (and he was perfect - had worked with deaf/hoh kids previous to Tom). Sam's having a good year. Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: > >In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:02:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: > >Oh yes - we aren't allowed to " ask " for a teacher in any given year but >I also do say we can't have a technophobe! > >Barbara > > > > >My response to being told that I could not request a certain teacher was to >inform them that they could accommodate me now and place my children >appropriately, or face the trouble I'd cause getting my child into the classroom of >my choice. They pretty much said " yes, ma'am " because there was a definite >rationale behind every one of my choices/requests. > >Depending on the reason for your hand-picking the teacher, districts can >accommodate you even if it is technically " against the rules. " I've managed to >handpick teachers for the past 3-4 years. > >Best -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I did " nicely " tell them that if Sam ended up with a certain teacher this year, I'd bein the principal's office requesting a change - they got that! Sam actually has the same teacher Tom had (and he was perfect - had worked with deaf/hoh kids previous to Tom). Sam's having a good year. Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: > >In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:02:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: > >Oh yes - we aren't allowed to " ask " for a teacher in any given year but >I also do say we can't have a technophobe! > >Barbara > > > > >My response to being told that I could not request a certain teacher was to >inform them that they could accommodate me now and place my children >appropriately, or face the trouble I'd cause getting my child into the classroom of >my choice. They pretty much said " yes, ma'am " because there was a definite >rationale behind every one of my choices/requests. > >Depending on the reason for your hand-picking the teacher, districts can >accommodate you even if it is technically " against the rules. " I've managed to >handpick teachers for the past 3-4 years. > >Best -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Our recent scenario was the opposite. I requested that our daughter NOT get a certain teacher. The same teacher who lost our son on the Ellis Island/Statue of Liberty field trip. The one who accused him of " faking it " when Ian would ask him to repeat things. There was no way my next kid was landing in that class room. (grin) Best -- Jill In a message dated 1/21/2006 8:46:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: I did " nicely " tell them that if Sam ended up with a certain teacher this year, I'd bein the principal's office requesting a change - they got that! Sam actually has the same teacher Tom had (and he was perfect - had worked with deaf/hoh kids previous to Tom). Sam's having a good year. Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Our recent scenario was the opposite. I requested that our daughter NOT get a certain teacher. The same teacher who lost our son on the Ellis Island/Statue of Liberty field trip. The one who accused him of " faking it " when Ian would ask him to repeat things. There was no way my next kid was landing in that class room. (grin) Best -- Jill In a message dated 1/21/2006 8:46:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: I did " nicely " tell them that if Sam ended up with a certain teacher this year, I'd bein the principal's office requesting a change - they got that! Sam actually has the same teacher Tom had (and he was perfect - had worked with deaf/hoh kids previous to Tom). Sam's having a good year. Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Our recent scenario was the opposite. I requested that our daughter NOT get a certain teacher. The same teacher who lost our son on the Ellis Island/Statue of Liberty field trip. The one who accused him of " faking it " when Ian would ask him to repeat things. There was no way my next kid was landing in that class room. (grin) Best -- Jill In a message dated 1/21/2006 8:46:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: I did " nicely " tell them that if Sam ended up with a certain teacher this year, I'd bein the principal's office requesting a change - they got that! Sam actually has the same teacher Tom had (and he was perfect - had worked with deaf/hoh kids previous to Tom). Sam's having a good year. Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I've learned not to ask for certain teachers and/or refuse teachers that were wrong for my daughter. My two kids are very different and my son responds to and likes people my daughter was afraid of and who didn't like her as a result. Now, in a case such as Jill mentioned, I certainly would intercede against a teacher. had one teacher so abusive to boys in fourth grade that one mother called the police for child abuse. Of course the school covered it up. She hated boys. What scared me was that she had a son and was a divorced mother so she was alone with him and her hatred. Luckily only had her for gifted and talented English. She would intentionally stand behind him so he couldn't lipread, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I've learned not to ask for certain teachers and/or refuse teachers that were wrong for my daughter. My two kids are very different and my son responds to and likes people my daughter was afraid of and who didn't like her as a result. Now, in a case such as Jill mentioned, I certainly would intercede against a teacher. had one teacher so abusive to boys in fourth grade that one mother called the police for child abuse. Of course the school covered it up. She hated boys. What scared me was that she had a son and was a divorced mother so she was alone with him and her hatred. Luckily only had her for gifted and talented English. She would intentionally stand behind him so he couldn't lipread, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 In a message dated 1/21/2006 11:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, semesky@... writes: She would intentionally stand behind him so he couldn't lipread, etc. Sounds like that 5th grade teacher I banned from having my daughter. What a piece of work. Our good news this year is that the English teacher who was worrying me has apparently gotten with the program. Where that 5th grade teacher was convinced Ian wasn't " really deaf " this year's teacher needed to be educated in order to understand that Ian does well because of his supports, not in spite of them. His FM had to go back (again) for repairs around Christmas and she saw a distinct difference in Ian's ability to follow class for that week it was gone/ I'm breathing a sigh of relief. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 In a message dated 1/21/2006 11:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, semesky@... writes: She would intentionally stand behind him so he couldn't lipread, etc. Sounds like that 5th grade teacher I banned from having my daughter. What a piece of work. Our good news this year is that the English teacher who was worrying me has apparently gotten with the program. Where that 5th grade teacher was convinced Ian wasn't " really deaf " this year's teacher needed to be educated in order to understand that Ian does well because of his supports, not in spite of them. His FM had to go back (again) for repairs around Christmas and she saw a distinct difference in Ian's ability to follow class for that week it was gone/ I'm breathing a sigh of relief. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 In a message dated 1/21/2006 11:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, semesky@... writes: She would intentionally stand behind him so he couldn't lipread, etc. Sounds like that 5th grade teacher I banned from having my daughter. What a piece of work. Our good news this year is that the English teacher who was worrying me has apparently gotten with the program. Where that 5th grade teacher was convinced Ian wasn't " really deaf " this year's teacher needed to be educated in order to understand that Ian does well because of his supports, not in spite of them. His FM had to go back (again) for repairs around Christmas and she saw a distinct difference in Ian's ability to follow class for that week it was gone/ I'm breathing a sigh of relief. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 We did the same, choosing a soft spoken teacher with no prior experience with d/hoh kids for her teaching abilities and willingness. It was definitely the right choice. As far as the voice goes though, we actually ended up choosing the most soft spoken Kinder teacher at the school. We figured that technology (sound field) could help that, but it couldn't change the teaching styles of the other teachers, and her style was a better match to Neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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