Re: Re: thoughts on dr. hubbards alt theory

[Guest guest]

I don't think we've discussed his

theory much if at all..

I think that it's going to take a bit more research and proof

that the Vascular Surgery thing is actually something that will

work for everyone with MS.. I do know that I've read that some

have had much success with having it done.. I'm pretty sure that

I've also read, somewhere that it doesn't do a thing for most of

us.. and is being put down like some of the really long time ago

theories of things like copper wiring in a house causing the MS

symptoms.. (tons of MSers had their houses completely rewired,

and then found it didn't change a thing).. and ADA still

refusing to admit that the Mercury in the Amalgam fillings in

our teeth could be, if not causing MS, making some cases worse

as more and more Mercury leeches into our systems from our

teeth.. [which is the major reason my teeth are the mess that

they are.. I refuse to have any more amalgam put in my mouth...

just in case].. People have traveled to Mexico to have their

amalgam fillings removed and replaced with Composite.. AND have

had improvement in their MS symptoms.. some more than others..

Unfortunately those of us on the East coast don't have really

easy access to dentists in Mexico..

There have been, over the years, been so many theories about

what is causing MS.. some of them sound.. some of them not so

sound.. My dad called to tell me about the front page article in

a local newspaper a few years back.. Guess there's some lady a

town or two from me that uses Bee Sting Therapy... and claims to

have been cured by this therapy.. AND they are using 'Honey

Bees' for this Therapy (wonder if that's not what made someone

wake up one morning and say.. Hey.. let's try Bird Poison on MS

patients and see what it does. thus the discovery that Ampyra

helps us walk better, further & faster...

My dad suggested I call the lady and ask where she gets her bees

from, and then I should try this.. I said.. "Uhhh.. dad... don't

you remember all those trips to the doctor for a shot when I'd

get stung by a bee and most of the time it would bring on the

blood poisoning/red streak thing.. On top of my foot swelling to

at least double it's normal size when I'd step on one of those

little critters in my bare feet... heaven forbid that I walked

in the yard with my white socks on.. cause instead of my feet

swelling.. it was my rear!.. or could possibly be both.. get my

butt beat AFTER dad removed the stinger! <grin>

Pretty sure the jury is still out on the Vascular Surgery thing

though.. and I'm pretty darned sure that this would have to be

footed entirely from pocket, cause insurance companies won't

usually pay for that and won't until it's approved by the FDA,

which could take years & years of study..

there was a guy, somewhere SWUS that opted for the stem cell

transplant.. would sure lke to find his site again.. but he had

to pay, out of pockeet, for his treatments..

Hugs

0onna

Nobody seemed to have a

comment on this theory...perhaps you've all discussed it

already? I searched the message archives but the only thing that

came up as discussed much was the vitamin D. I was actually

wondering if any of you invested in the book to read up on what

their theory entailed. My neuro hadn't even heard of this

individual nor the alternate theory focusing on vascular

problems...which is strange because he is suppose to be quite

involved in ms research. so, any thoughts or opinions? on the

book or the theory?

thanks!

Dee

[Guest guest]

wow Donna, you have got a really intellectual handle on things! I am impressed...and somewhat naive~ I too have lots of fillings from the 70's-80's being born in mid 60's. so my fillings are just plugged full of that stuff...and I just had one put in with it last year~ that and too many xrays topped with reports of this/that bad for your health can make a person want to just throw in the towel sometimes. Bird poison, really? My mom said 'why would they want to wipe out a bunch of birds?' which isn't the point mama! thank you for sharing your research and thoughts, very good things to hear when I'm still early in my ms so to speak...2003 spring so 8 years. what area do you live in again Donna? DeeTo: MSersLife Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 3:18:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: thoughts on dr. hubbards alt theory

I don't think we've discussed his

theory much if at all..

I think that it's going to take a bit more research and proof

that the Vascular Surgery thing is actually something that will

work for everyone with MS.. I do know that I've read that some

have had much success with having it done.. I'm pretty sure that

I've also read, somewhere that it doesn't do a thing for most of

us.. and is being put down like some of the really long time ago

theories of things like copper wiring in a house causing the MS

symptoms.. (tons of MSers had their houses completely rewired,

and then found it didn't change a thing).. and ADA still

refusing to admit that the Mercury in the Amalgam fillings in

our teeth could be, if not causing MS, making some cases worse

as more and more Mercury leeches into our systems from our

teeth.. [which is the major reason my teeth are the mess that

they are.. I refuse to have any more amalgam put in my mouth...

just in case].. People have traveled to Mexico to have their

amalgam fillings removed and replaced with Composite.. AND have

had improvement in their MS symptoms.. some more than others..

Unfortunately those of us on the East coast don't have really

easy access to dentists in Mexico..

There have been, over the years, been so many theories about

what is causing MS.. some of them sound.. some of them not so

sound.. My dad called to tell me about the front page article in

a local newspaper a few years back.. Guess there's some lady a

town or two from me that uses Bee Sting Therapy... and claims to

have been cured by this therapy.. AND they are using 'Honey

Bees' for this Therapy (wonder if that's not what made someone

wake up one morning and say.. Hey.. let's try Bird Poison on MS

patients and see what it does. thus the discovery that Ampyra

helps us walk better, further & faster...

My dad suggested I call the lady and ask where she gets her bees

from, and then I should try this.. I said.. "Uhhh.. dad... don't

you remember all those trips to the doctor for a shot when I'd

get stung by a bee and most of the time it would bring on the

blood poisoning/red streak thing.. On top of my foot swelling to

at least double it's normal size when I'd step on one of those

little critters in my bare feet... heaven forbid that I walked

in the yard with my white socks on.. cause instead of my feet

swelling.. it was my rear!.. or could possibly be both.. get my

butt beat AFTER dad removed the stinger! <grin>

Pretty sure the jury is still out on the Vascular Surgery thing

though.. and I'm pretty darned sure that this would have to be

footed entirely from pocket, cause insurance companies won't

usually pay for that and won't until it's approved by the FDA,

which could take years & years of study..

there was a guy, somewhere SWUS that opted for the stem cell

transplant.. would sure lke to find his site again.. but he had

to pay, out of pockeet, for his treatments..

Hugs

0onna

Nobody seemed to have a

comment on this theory...perhaps you've all discussed it

already? I searched the message archives but the only thing that

came up as discussed much was the vitamin D. I was actually

wondering if any of you invested in the book to read up on what

their theory entailed. My neuro hadn't even heard of this

individual nor the alternate theory focusing on vascular

problems...which is strange because he is suppose to be quite

involved in ms research. so, any thoughts or opinions? on the

book or the theory?

thanks!

Dee

[Guest guest]

Oh Dee,

I've always been "book smart -- common sense dumb"  somehow I

figured out how to learn common sense.. though sometimes I still

find myself lacking in that area.. But I've always loved

reading.. and it doesn't matter what the reading material is..

I'll read it all.. used to take the Family Medical Book (big red

book) or Encyclopedias with me to the bathroom when everyone

else took newspapers or magazines.. LOL

And I didn't find the information about the amalgam fillings..

that info came from a dear friend & my MS mentor when he was

telling me about all the things, like the copper wiring, that MS

was being blamed on long before 2000... so of course.. I had to

look that up..

Oh, and the why of killing a bunch of birds.. They used the

fampridine (which is not exactly what Ampyra is currently --

Fampridine was compounded with something in it's early stages of

research.. and has since been renamed.. Dalfampridine) to rid

certain areas of pigeon populations.. and possibly the fear of

some disease being spread or something because of the amount of

bird droppings because of the population..

And I've always (all but the 5 years in Connecticut) lived in

Southwestern Pennsylvania.

HUGS

|)onna

wow Donna, you have got a really intellectual handle on

things! I am impressed...and somewhat naive~ I too have lots

of fillings from the 70's-80's being born in mid 60's. so my

fillings are just plugged full of that stuff...and I just had

one put in with it last year~ that and too many xrays topped

with reports of this/that bad for your health can make a

person want to just throw in the towel sometimes. Bird poison,

really? My mom said 'why would they want to wipe out a bunch

of birds?' which isn't the point mama! thank you for sharing

your research and thoughts, very good things to hear when I'm

still early in my ms so to speak...2003 spring so 8 years.

what area do you live in again Donna?

Dee

From:

|)onna

To:

MSersLife

Sent: Wed,

May 25, 2011 3:18:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Re: thoughts on dr. hubbards alt theory

 

I don't think

we've discussed his theory much if at all..

I think that it's going to take a bit more research

and proof that the Vascular Surgery thing is

actually something that will work for everyone with

MS.. I do know that I've read that some have had

much success with having it done.. I'm pretty sure

that I've also read, somewhere that it doesn't do a

thing for most of us.. and is being put down like

some of the really long time ago theories of things

like copper wiring in a house causing the MS

symptoms.. (tons of MSers had their houses

completely rewired, and then found it didn't change

a thing).. and ADA still refusing to admit that the

Mercury in the Amalgam fillings in our teeth could

be, if not causing MS, making some cases worse as

more and more Mercury leeches into our systems from

our teeth.. [which is the major reason my teeth are

the mess that they are.. I refuse to have any more

amalgam put in my mouth... just in case].. People

have traveled to Mexico to have their amalgam

fillings removed and replaced with Composite.. AND

have had improvement in their MS symptoms.. some

more than others.. Unfortunately those of us on the

East coast don't have really easy access to dentists

in Mexico..

There have been, over the years, been so many

theories about what is causing MS.. some of them

sound.. some of them not so sound.. My dad called to

tell me about the front page article in a local

newspaper a few years back.. Guess there's some lady

a town or two from me that uses Bee Sting Therapy...

and claims to have been cured by this therapy.. AND

they are using 'Honey Bees' for this Therapy (wonder

if that's not what made someone wake up one morning

and say.. Hey.. let's try Bird Poison on MS patients

and see what it does. thus the discovery that Ampyra

helps us walk better, further & faster...

My dad suggested I call the lady and ask where she

gets her bees from, and then I should try this.. I

said.. "Uhhh.. dad... don't you remember all those

trips to the doctor for a shot when I'd get stung by

a bee and most of the time it would bring on the

blood poisoning/red streak thing.. On top of my foot

swelling to at least double it's normal size when

I'd step on one of those little critters in my bare

feet... heaven forbid that I walked in the yard with

my white socks on.. cause instead of my feet

swelling.. it was my rear!.. or could possibly be

both.. get my butt beat AFTER dad removed the

stinger! <grin>

Pretty sure the jury is still out on the Vascular

Surgery thing though.. and I'm pretty darned sure

that this would have to be footed entirely from

pocket, cause insurance companies won't usually pay

for that and won't until it's approved by the FDA,

which could take years & years of study..

there was a guy, somewhere SWUS that opted for the

stem cell transplant.. would sure lke to find his

site again.. but he had to pay, out of pockeet, for

his treatments..

Hugs

0onna

Nobody seemed to have a comment on this

theory...perhaps you've all discussed it already? I

searched the message archives but the only thing that

came up as discussed much was the vitamin D. I was

actually wondering if any of you invested in the book

to read up on what their theory entailed. My neuro

hadn't even heard of this individual nor the alternate

theory focusing on vascular problems...which is

strange because he is suppose to be quite involved in

ms research. so, any thoughts or opinions? on the book

or the theory?

thanks!

Dee