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Wow, nne, ironing at 9! What a challenging life you had, but it made you an amazing woman. You surely knew how to crack the whip with your own kids. Ours ignore us. My 19 year old daughter can inspire them at times to clean and straighten things up, but for the most part, they are complacent. It's rough, especially when I'm in pain, to try and enforce stuff.

Pray for me in that endeavor!

love,

Kate

To: mserslife Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 8:12:56 PMSubject: RE: pain dr.

I'm with you . My kids when they were young all had to make their own beds, on weekends they each had a job to do in the house and each week it was different. The boys mowed lawns and did handyman work for a neighbor and one of them washed dishes along with his sister, at the local VFW on Sat. Our daughter baby sat and washed the dishes at the VFW. Those jobs they picked out on their own. Plus the boys were in the Boy Scouts, at ages 16 and 17 joined the local volunteer ambulance and fire dept. Before they turned 18 each of them made the rank of Eagle Scout which is the highest a Boy Scout can get. All 3 were Students of the Year in high school at their vocational school they attend for 1/2 day as part of their regular schooling. One son in electronics, one son for auto mechanics, and our daughter was for office work. Can't remember the exact wording for hers. Our 7 almost 8 yr old granddaughter surprises Daddy and cleans the house a lot

of Fridays and surprises him when he gets home from shopping. Granted she may not do the job of an adult but she does pretty dang good. The only thing he has ever required of her was to keep her room clean. When they visit here, she goes under the kitchen cabinet and looks for the duster and comes out and dusts! Not that its dusty cause I clean ever week but she loves to do it :-)My mother was an alcoholic and I did a lot of the house work. By age 9 In was ironing my fathers shirts. When you are 9 yrs old ironing a size 17 1/2 shirt seemed like ironing a king size bed sheet! LOL I would also do some of the cleaning. To me there is NO excuse for kids not to help out at home.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for

Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.> > Hi all,> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with> pain> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at 15> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to> be> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly difficult> to> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on> giving> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it up> and> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when I> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.> love you all, with gentle hugs,> Kate__________________________________________________________Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks.TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for FREE

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Wow, nne, ironing at 9! What a challenging life you had, but it made you an amazing woman. You surely knew how to crack the whip with your own kids. Ours ignore us. My 19 year old daughter can inspire them at times to clean and straighten things up, but for the most part, they are complacent. It's rough, especially when I'm in pain, to try and enforce stuff.

Pray for me in that endeavor!

love,

Kate

To: mserslife Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 8:12:56 PMSubject: RE: pain dr.

I'm with you . My kids when they were young all had to make their own beds, on weekends they each had a job to do in the house and each week it was different. The boys mowed lawns and did handyman work for a neighbor and one of them washed dishes along with his sister, at the local VFW on Sat. Our daughter baby sat and washed the dishes at the VFW. Those jobs they picked out on their own. Plus the boys were in the Boy Scouts, at ages 16 and 17 joined the local volunteer ambulance and fire dept. Before they turned 18 each of them made the rank of Eagle Scout which is the highest a Boy Scout can get. All 3 were Students of the Year in high school at their vocational school they attend for 1/2 day as part of their regular schooling. One son in electronics, one son for auto mechanics, and our daughter was for office work. Can't remember the exact wording for hers. Our 7 almost 8 yr old granddaughter surprises Daddy and cleans the house a lot

of Fridays and surprises him when he gets home from shopping. Granted she may not do the job of an adult but she does pretty dang good. The only thing he has ever required of her was to keep her room clean. When they visit here, she goes under the kitchen cabinet and looks for the duster and comes out and dusts! Not that its dusty cause I clean ever week but she loves to do it :-)My mother was an alcoholic and I did a lot of the house work. By age 9 In was ironing my fathers shirts. When you are 9 yrs old ironing a size 17 1/2 shirt seemed like ironing a king size bed sheet! LOL I would also do some of the cleaning. To me there is NO excuse for kids not to help out at home.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for

Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.> > Hi all,> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with> pain> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at 15> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to> be> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly difficult> to> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on> giving> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it up> and> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when I> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.> love you all, with gentle hugs,> Kate__________________________________________________________Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks.TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for FREE

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Kate I never had to crack the whip. I simply told them this is what you are

going to have to do and never got an argument.

If it were me, if the kids don't help, NO SPORTS! Period, amen. No arguments and

stick to it! YOU CAN DO IT!

Hugs

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> pain dr.

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with

>> pain

>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>> 15

>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to

>> be

>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly difficult

>> to

>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>> giving

>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it up

>> and

>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when I

>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>> Kate

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Kate I never had to crack the whip. I simply told them this is what you are

going to have to do and never got an argument.

If it were me, if the kids don't help, NO SPORTS! Period, amen. No arguments and

stick to it! YOU CAN DO IT!

Hugs

nne

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world "

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> pain dr.

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with

>> pain

>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>> 15

>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to

>> be

>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly difficult

>> to

>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>> giving

>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it up

>> and

>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when I

>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>> Kate

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Kate I never had to crack the whip. I simply told them this is what you are

going to have to do and never got an argument.

If it were me, if the kids don't help, NO SPORTS! Period, amen. No arguments and

stick to it! YOU CAN DO IT!

Hugs

nne

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world "

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May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever "

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> pain dr.

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with

>> pain

>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>> 15

>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to

>> be

>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly difficult

>> to

>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>> giving

>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it up

>> and

>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when I

>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>> Kate

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Thats ok Kate. I knew you didn't mean anything by it. Just a figure of speech. I

am so glad my kids are all older and married. Thank God our kids are instilling

things they learned young into their kids. Just stick with it and don't let

them get away with anything.

Hugs

nne

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> pain dr.

>>>

>>> Hi all,

>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with

>>> pain

>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>>> 15

>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to

>>> be

>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>>> difficult

>>> to

>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>> giving

>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it

>>> up

>>> and

>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when

>>> I

>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>> Kate

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Thats ok Kate. I knew you didn't mean anything by it. Just a figure of speech. I

am so glad my kids are all older and married. Thank God our kids are instilling

things they learned young into their kids. Just stick with it and don't let

them get away with anything.

Hugs

nne

To the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the

world "

" May the Lord Bless you and keep you,

May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever "

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> pain dr.

>>>

>>> Hi all,

>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with

>>> pain

>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>>> 15

>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to

>>> be

>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>>> difficult

>>> to

>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>> giving

>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it

>>> up

>>> and

>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when

>>> I

>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>> Kate

>>

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Thats ok Kate. I knew you didn't mean anything by it. Just a figure of speech. I

am so glad my kids are all older and married. Thank God our kids are instilling

things they learned young into their kids. Just stick with it and don't let

them get away with anything.

Hugs

nne

To the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the

world "

" May the Lord Bless you and keep you,

May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever "

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> pain dr.

>>>

>>> Hi all,

>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with

>>> pain

>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>>> 15

>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove to

>>> be

>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>>> difficult

>>> to

>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>> giving

>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look it

>>> up

>>> and

>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially when

>>> I

>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>> Kate

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I agree with that opinion as well

Sharon...

Just wish that I could have held my ground when the boys were

growing..

A Friend of mine, once slapped her daughters mouth.. because she

was mouthing off like she'd seen her friends do with their own

mothers, being very disrespectful as well.. Once slapped her

daughter had the nerve to look at her mother and tell her that

she was going to call CYS on her..

Her mother calmly looked at her and told her to go right ahead

and do just that.. because it would not be her leaving the house

when they got involved and took her away because her mother

slapped her mouth...

Mom was right.. and it worked like a charm.. daughter was never

disrespectful again..

HUGS

|)onna

I agree, nne. There are things we must

give out kids/grandkids such as food and shelter. We do NOT

have to give them TV, sports, computers, MP3 players....etc.

lol Those are the things kids need to earn.

just my humble opinion:)

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May 26, 2011 8:02:07 AM

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Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

Kate I never had to crack the whip. I simply told them this

is what you are going to have to do and never got an

argument.

If it were me, if the kids don't help, NO SPORTS! Period,

amen. No arguments and stick to it! YOU CAN DO IT!

Hugs

nne

To the world you might be one person, but to one person you

just might be the world"

"May the Lord Bless you and keep you,

May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you

Peace...Forever"

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

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Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancer

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancer

Angel Feather Loomer

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> pain dr.

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has

had experience with

>> pain

>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen,

but I can already (at

>> 15

>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt

with one might prove to

>> be

>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it

exceedingly difficult

>> to

>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me

sleepy. Planning on

>> giving

>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia'

so she can look it up

>> and

>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll

understand...especially when I

>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>> Kate

>

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One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of

girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to

CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief ,

is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to

say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I

wanted her hanging around with.

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> pain dr.

>>>>

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

>>>> with

>>>> pain

>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>>>> 15

>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

>>>> to

>>>> be

>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>> difficult

>>>> to

>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>>> giving

>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

>> it up

>>>> and

>>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

>> when I

>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>>> Kate

>>>

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It was especially bad when we lived in California - the schools then were

encouraging the kids to report EVERYTHING as abuse. Get grounded? That's

abuse. No dessert? Abuse. And big billboards telling kids runaways

could get free bus tickets.

The Daughter (11 at the time) got grounded for refusing to clean her

room (there were BUZZARDS circling....) She took her 6-year-old brother

and snuck to the bus station (2 blocks from our house in Riverside, CA) and

told them that she and her 6-year-old brother had run away from Texas (her

grandma lived there) 5 YEARS EARLIER, could they have that free ticket....

(brother thought they were going to gramma's for the afternoon).

Took me 4 hours to persuade the Riverside cops that The Daughter should

not spend the next several months in juvie. One of the " arresting

officers " walked me to the parking lot and told me nobody would hear nothin'

if someone got a garde-A fanny whupping as soon as I got them home...

The Daughter tried the " I'm gonna call " thing on me numerous times

after. I'd just point out that they had her room all ready and waiting down

at juvenile hall.

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pain dr.

>>>>

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

>>>> with

>>>> pain

>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>>>> 15

>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

>>>> to

>>>> be

>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>> difficult

>>>> to

>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>>> giving

>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

>> it up

>>>> and

>>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

>> when I

>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>>> Kate

>>>

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Been there! ughTo: MSersLife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 4:45:40 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

I agree with that opinion as well

Sharon...

Just wish that I could have held my ground when the boys were

growing..

A Friend of mine, once slapped her daughters mouth.. because she

was mouthing off like she'd seen her friends do with their own

mothers, being very disrespectful as well.. Once slapped her

daughter had the nerve to look at her mother and tell her that

she was going to call CYS on her..

Her mother calmly looked at her and told her to go right ahead

and do just that.. because it would not be her leaving the house

when they got involved and took her away because her mother

slapped her mouth...

Mom was right.. and it worked like a charm.. daughter was never

disrespectful again..

HUGS

|)onna

I agree, nne. There are things we must

give out kids/grandkids such as food and shelter. We do NOT

have to give them TV, sports, computers, MP3 players....etc.

lol Those are the things kids need to earn.

just my humble opinion:)

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Kate I never had to crack the whip. I simply told them this

is what you are going to have to do and never got an

argument.

If it were me, if the kids don't help, NO SPORTS! Period,

amen. No arguments and stick to it! YOU CAN DO IT!

Hugs

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> pain dr.

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has

had experience with

>> pain

>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen,

but I can already (at

>> 15

>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt

with one might prove to

>> be

>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it

exceedingly difficult

>> to

>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me

sleepy. Planning on

>> giving

>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia'

so she can look it up

>> and

>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll

understand...especially when I

>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>> Kate

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they teach that crap in school...another idea meant to help truely abused kids gone overboard~ my abuse was because I was in her personal space using intimidation to argue over her unloading the dishwasher~ unbelievable. Your daughter sounds like a real tough case~ ugh.To: MSersLife Sent: Fri, May

27, 2011 5:36:17 PMSubject: RE: pain dr./kids cleaning

It was especially bad when we lived in California - the schools then were

encouraging the kids to report EVERYTHING as abuse. Get grounded? That's

abuse. No dessert? Abuse. And big billboards telling kids runaways

could get free bus tickets.

The Daughter (11 at the time) got grounded for refusing to clean her

room (there were BUZZARDS circling....) She took her 6-year-old brother

and snuck to the bus station (2 blocks from our house in Riverside, CA) and

told them that she and her 6-year-old brother had run away from Texas (her

grandma lived there) 5 YEARS EARLIER, could they have that free ticket....

(brother thought they were going to gramma's for the afternoon).

Took me 4 hours to persuade the Riverside cops that The Daughter should

not spend the next several months in juvie. One of the "arresting

officers" walked me to the parking lot and told me nobody would hear nothin'

if someone got a garde-A fanny whupping as soon as I got them home...

The Daughter tried the "I'm gonna call" thing on me numerous times

after. I'd just point out that they had her room all ready and waiting down

at juvenile hall.

T

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pain dr.

>>>>

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

>>>> with

>>>> pain

>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

>>>> 15

>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

>>>> to

>>>> be

>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>> difficult

>>>> to

>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>>> giving

>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

>> it up

>>>> and

>>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

>> when I

>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>>> Kate

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Yup, there were truckloads of

times that I wished that babies came with instruction manuals..

I came up "the hard way" with a father who truly believed in

"Spare the rod, Spoil the child"... the rod and I were very

intimate at times!

The only thing that would outrage me to the point that I

couldn't/wouldn't deal with either of the boys.. was Lying... If

I found out that I had been lied to, things could/would get

ugly.. technically, at 29, Earl should STILL be grounded! if all

the groundings had been enforced... LOL..

Fortunately, Bud wasn't a child to lie.. If I asked him if he'd

finished his homework, he said "nope".. when asked if he

intended to finish his homework, he'd say "nope".. at that point

someone would have to sit down with him and enforce the homework

deal.. I made Bill deal with the Math homework.. Bud was ADHD

and just couldn't seem to grasp math, and I've come to

understand, because math is really a conceptual thing, it is

hard for ADHD kids to "get it".. and not being ADHD myself, I

just couldn't get my head around.. how come you can't tell me

what 4 minus 3 is??.. Bill was able to work with him where I

couldn't.. Of course Bill used Candy in solving math problems..

the visual was actually the thing that worked.. I think.. not

the fact that he got to eat the candy when they were finished..

BUT.. when Bud and his step-brother came out of the bedroom and

showed me the shiny new "paint jobs" on the hot wheels cars...

and then tried to tell me that they hadn't used my Sharpies on

them as paint.. when I could SEE it all over their hands

(Sharpie on Hot Wheels, doesn't dry very well, and indelible ink

all over his hands wasn't something I was overjoyed with sending

my step-son home with!)..

And did you ever notice that the little curse your mother put on

you (and I'm sure they've all used it).. "When you grow up I

hope you have kids just like you!".. always but always seems to

happen?

HUGS

|)onna

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.

Hugs

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pain dr.

Hi all,

Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

with

pain

doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

15

mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

to

be

helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

difficult

to

focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

giving

to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

it up

and

see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

when I

make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

love you all, with gentle hugs,

Kate

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I remember those days..

Earl got me six weeks of visits with the school's social

worker.. because he told his teacher that he put his books away

before told to, for lunch, because we had gone racing that

weekend and didn't feed him!.. (Teacher called to tell me that

she was "required" by law, because he said that.. when anybody

who looked at the boy KNEW he wasn't being starved! -- he wore

"huskies"...

My brother's oldest got him looked at thoroughly as well..

oldest told the teacher that all the mosquito bites on his arms

& legs were cigarette burns! (they were scratched open

mosquito bites, before the West Nile thing 25 years ago.. and a

creek ran through our back yard)..

Kids do do and say the darndest things!... where is Art

Linkletter when you need him?

HUGS

|)onna

It was especially bad when we lived in California - the schools then were

encouraging the kids to report EVERYTHING as abuse. Get grounded? That's

abuse. No dessert? Abuse. And big billboards telling kids runaways

could get free bus tickets.

The Daughter (11 at the time) got grounded for refusing to clean her

room (there were BUZZARDS circling....) She took her 6-year-old brother

and snuck to the bus station (2 blocks from our house in Riverside, CA) and

told them that she and her 6-year-old brother had run away from Texas (her

grandma lived there) 5 YEARS EARLIER, could they have that free ticket....

(brother thought they were going to gramma's for the afternoon).

Took me 4 hours to persuade the Riverside cops that The Daughter should

not spend the next several months in juvie. One of the "arresting

officers" walked me to the parking lot and told me nobody would hear nothin'

if someone got a garde-A fanny whupping as soon as I got them home...

The Daughter tried the "I'm gonna call" thing on me numerous times

after. I'd just point out that they had her room all ready and waiting down

at juvenile hall.

T

in WY

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"You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..."

pain dr.

Hi all,

Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

with

pain

doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

15

mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

to

be

helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

difficult

to

focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

giving

to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

it up

and

see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

when I

make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

love you all, with gentle hugs,

Kate

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Good for you, nne. So many parents let their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful, kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like him and all were drug

addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has brain damage from the drugs he is using. Sad!! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: mserslife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.>>>> >>>> Hi all,>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience>>>> with>>>> pain>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at>>>> 15>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove>>>> to>>>> be>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly>> difficult>>>> to>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on>>>> giving>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look>> it up>>>> and>>>> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially>> when I>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,>>>> Kate>>> >>> __________________________________________________________>>> Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...>>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>>> networks.>>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for>>> FREE>> >> ____________________________________________________________>> Send your photos by email in seconds...>> TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>> networks.>> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >>

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Good for you, nne. So many parents let their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful, kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like him and all were drug

addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has brain damage from the drugs he is using. Sad!! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: mserslife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.>>>> >>>> Hi all,>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience>>>> with>>>> pain>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at>>>> 15>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove>>>> to>>>> be>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly>> difficult>>>> to>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on>>>> giving>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look>> it up>>>> and>>>> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially>> when I>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,>>>> Kate>>> >>> __________________________________________________________>>> Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...>>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>>> networks.>>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for>>> FREE>> >> ____________________________________________________________>> Send your photos by email in seconds...>> TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>> networks.>> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >>

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Good for you, nne. So many parents let their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful, kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like him and all were drug

addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has brain damage from the drugs he is using. Sad!! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: mserslife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.>>>> >>>> Hi all,>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience>>>> with>>>> pain>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at>>>> 15>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove>>>> to>>>> be>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly>> difficult>>>> to>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on>>>> giving>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look>> it up>>>> and>>>> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially>> when I>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,>>>> Kate>>> >>> __________________________________________________________>>> Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...>>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>>> networks.>>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for>>> FREE>> >> ____________________________________________________________>> Send your photos by email in seconds...>> TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>> networks.>> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >>

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That's awful, Sharon...sounds like someone who needs to be bathed in prayer. I'll bet the mother wishes she had kept a tighter rein on her kids.My kids are SO turned off drugs and alcohol from their dad, who has in the past, not sure if now, used both. They have absolutely no interest; which I'm grateful for. One good thing came out of my husband being a 'user'.love you Sharon, and nne,KateFrom: Sharon

To: MSersLife Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 5:14:17 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

Good for you, nne. So many parents let their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful, kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like him and all were drug

addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has brain damage from the drugs he is using. Sad!! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: mserslife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.>>>> >>>> Hi all,>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience>>>> with>>>> pain>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at>>>> 15>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove>>>> to>>>> be>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly>> difficult>>>> to>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on>>>> giving>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look>> it up>>>> and>>>> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially>> when I>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,>>>> Kate>>> >>> __________________________________________________________>>> Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...>>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>>> networks.>>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for>>> FREE>> >> ____________________________________________________________>> Send your photos by email in seconds...>> TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>> networks.>> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >>

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That's awful, Sharon...sounds like someone who needs to be bathed in prayer. I'll bet the mother wishes she had kept a tighter rein on her kids.My kids are SO turned off drugs and alcohol from their dad, who has in the past, not sure if now, used both. They have absolutely no interest; which I'm grateful for. One good thing came out of my husband being a 'user'.love you Sharon, and nne,KateFrom: Sharon

To: MSersLife Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 5:14:17 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

Good for you, nne. So many parents let their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful, kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like him and all were drug

addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has brain damage from the drugs he is using. Sad!! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: mserslife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.>>>> >>>> Hi all,>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience>>>> with>>>> pain>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at>>>> 15>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove>>>> to>>>> be>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly>> difficult>>>> to>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on>>>> giving>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look>> it up>>>> and>>>> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially>> when I>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,>>>> Kate>>> >>> __________________________________________________________>>> Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...>>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>>> networks.>>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for>>> FREE>> >> ____________________________________________________________>> Send your photos by email in seconds...>> TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>> networks.>> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >>

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That's awful, Sharon...sounds like someone who needs to be bathed in prayer. I'll bet the mother wishes she had kept a tighter rein on her kids.My kids are SO turned off drugs and alcohol from their dad, who has in the past, not sure if now, used both. They have absolutely no interest; which I'm grateful for. One good thing came out of my husband being a 'user'.love you Sharon, and nne,KateFrom: Sharon

To: MSersLife Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 5:14:17 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

Good for you, nne. So many parents let their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful, kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like him and all were drug

addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has brain damage from the drugs he is using. Sad!! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: mserslife Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that? I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is right across the street, lets go get the number and see what they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around with.HugsnneTo the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world""May the Lord Bless you and keep you,May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever"Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancerhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancerAngel Feather Loomerwww.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.comThe Cancer Clubwww.cancerclub.com> pain dr.>>>> >>>> Hi all,>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience>>>> with>>>> pain>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at>>>> 15>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove>>>> to>>>> be>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly>> difficult>>>> to>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on>>>> giving>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look>> it up>>>> and>>>> see what I'm

suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially>> when I>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,>>>> Kate>>> >>> __________________________________________________________>>> Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds...>>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>>> networks.>>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for>>> FREE>> >> ____________________________________________________________>> Send your photos by email in seconds...>> TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3>> Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social>> networks.>> >> >> ------------------------------------>> >>

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That would be the end of the kid in my house!! NO WAY! If one the boys came home

like that he wouldn't get out of the house except for school till his hair got

back to normal.

Our son from Green Bay came down with our granddaughter and her friend. Justyne

(granddaughter) eats pretty much everything. Her girlfriend not! We had tacos

and Abriana didn't want them. Our son had brought some Froot Loops for the kids

so she wanted them. She took about 3 spoonsful and said I'm done. We both looked

at here and said DONE???? Yes she said. I said to her you know what, when our

kids were young first off, you ate what was put in front of you. I didn't make

them eat liver cause I wouldn't even eat it. I said if you didn't want it, you

went to your room and got nothing else to eat till morning. One time our

daughter was mad at me because of not letting her go with the girlfriends I

spoke about yesterday. She kept saying, I'm not hungry. I said ok, we will see

in 3hrs if you are. She sat at the table for 3hrs, no goofing around with her

bros. and then went straight to bed with no treats etc. Last time that ever

happened. Well after telling Abriana this she decided she would finish her

cereal!

If kids want to express themselves let them do it when they are out on their

own. You live in my house you do as I say. i supposed that sounds like boot

camp, but I will tell you this much, none of my kids ever talked back, got into

trouble of any sort and have all grown up to be great parents.

Hugs

nne

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> pain dr.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

>>>>> with

>>>>> pain

>>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already

>>>>> (at

>>>>> 15

>>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

>>>>> to

>>>>> be

>>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

>>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

>>> difficult

>>>>> to

>>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

>>>>> giving

>>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

>>> it up

>>>>> and

>>>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

>>> when I

>>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>>>> Kate

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art linkletter, runs right up there with cosby when talking to little ones~ love 'em! Donna is a fun gal!DeeTo: MSersLife Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 7:36:46 AMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

I remember those days..

Earl got me six weeks of visits with the school's social

worker.. because he told his teacher that he put his books away

before told to, for lunch, because we had gone racing that

weekend and didn't feed him!.. (Teacher called to tell me that

she was "required" by law, because he said that.. when anybody

who looked at the boy KNEW he wasn't being starved! -- he wore

"huskies"...

My brother's oldest got him looked at thoroughly as well..

oldest told the teacher that all the mosquito bites on his arms

& legs were cigarette burns! (they were scratched open

mosquito bites, before the West Nile thing 25 years ago.. and a

creek ran through our back yard)..

Kids do do and say the darndest things!... where is Art

Linkletter when you need him?

HUGS

|)onna

It was especially bad when we lived in California - the schools then were

encouraging the kids to report EVERYTHING as abuse. Get grounded? That's

abuse. No dessert? Abuse. And big billboards telling kids runaways

could get free bus tickets.

The Daughter (11 at the time) got grounded for refusing to clean her

room (there were BUZZARDS circling....) She took her 6-year-old brother

and snuck to the bus station (2 blocks from our house in Riverside, CA) and

told them that she and her 6-year-old brother had run away from Texas (her

grandma lived there) 5 YEARS EARLIER, could they have that free ticket....

(brother thought they were going to gramma's for the afternoon).

Took me 4 hours to persuade the Riverside cops that The Daughter should

not spend the next several months in juvie. One of the "arresting

officers" walked me to the parking lot and told me nobody would hear nothin'

if someone got a garde-A fanny whupping as soon as I got them home...

The Daughter tried the "I'm gonna call" thing on me numerous times

after. I'd just point out that they had her room all ready and waiting down

at juvenile hall.

T

in WY

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pain dr.

Hi all,

Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

with

pain

doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

15

mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

to

be

helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

difficult

to

focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

giving

to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

it up

and

see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

when I

make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

love you all, with gentle hugs,

Kate

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art linkletter, runs right up there with cosby when talking to little ones~ love 'em! Donna is a fun gal!DeeTo: MSersLife Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 7:36:46 AMSubject: Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

I remember those days..

Earl got me six weeks of visits with the school's social

worker.. because he told his teacher that he put his books away

before told to, for lunch, because we had gone racing that

weekend and didn't feed him!.. (Teacher called to tell me that

she was "required" by law, because he said that.. when anybody

who looked at the boy KNEW he wasn't being starved! -- he wore

"huskies"...

My brother's oldest got him looked at thoroughly as well..

oldest told the teacher that all the mosquito bites on his arms

& legs were cigarette burns! (they were scratched open

mosquito bites, before the West Nile thing 25 years ago.. and a

creek ran through our back yard)..

Kids do do and say the darndest things!... where is Art

Linkletter when you need him?

HUGS

|)onna

It was especially bad when we lived in California - the schools then were

encouraging the kids to report EVERYTHING as abuse. Get grounded? That's

abuse. No dessert? Abuse. And big billboards telling kids runaways

could get free bus tickets.

The Daughter (11 at the time) got grounded for refusing to clean her

room (there were BUZZARDS circling....) She took her 6-year-old brother

and snuck to the bus station (2 blocks from our house in Riverside, CA) and

told them that she and her 6-year-old brother had run away from Texas (her

grandma lived there) 5 YEARS EARLIER, could they have that free ticket....

(brother thought they were going to gramma's for the afternoon).

Took me 4 hours to persuade the Riverside cops that The Daughter should

not spend the next several months in juvie. One of the "arresting

officers" walked me to the parking lot and told me nobody would hear nothin'

if someone got a garde-A fanny whupping as soon as I got them home...

The Daughter tried the "I'm gonna call" thing on me numerous times

after. I'd just point out that they had her room all ready and waiting down

at juvenile hall.

T

in WY

Practical Blackwork Designs

http://practicalblackwork.com

http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com

"You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..."

pain dr.

Hi all,

Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience

with

pain

doctors. My neuro simply is raising my baclofen, but I can already (at

15

mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an appt with one might prove

to

be

helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll thought.

I'm still doing the computer training, but find it exceedingly

difficult

to

focus with the pain, and with the meds making me sleepy. Planning on

giving

to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal neuralgia' so she can look

it up

and

see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll understand...especially

when I

make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

love you all, with gentle hugs,

Kate

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Sharon,

Then maybe I shouldn't tell you that Bud wanted a "reverse

Mohawk" at one point in time.. What he did end up getting was a

Velcro head when he decided halfway through a "buzz cut" that he

wanted to keep his nearly shoulder length hair.. but just on

top.. He was a clown.. and would flop his head from side to

side.. giving that Victor/ look a whirl!..

unfortunately, when the buzzed part started to grown in.. he

found that the long stuff stuck to the buzzed part, just like

Velcro..

He was addled most of the time.. just not from drugs...

HUGS

|)onna

Good for you, nne. So many parents let

their kids run with anyone. I saw a kid yesterday that I knew

when he was a small boy. His mother told us a few years ago

that she believed in free expression for kids and she wasn't

going to tell her kids what to do. When she was still married

to their father (she has three kids) the kids were wonderful,

kind, caring, smart kids. Anyway, the boy I saw yesterday is

expressing himself with partially shaved head and the rest in a

stiff mohawk, six piercings across his cheek.... but the worst

part is that he is clearly using drugs. He was so spaced out

and didn't recognize my grandkids. They used to be the closest

of friends. His pals that were with him looked pretty much like

him and all were drug addled. This kid is 16. I have heard his

younger siblings are in pretty much the same shape. It saddens

me so much. I hope and pray he straightens up before he has

brain damage from the drugs he is using.

Sad!!

Sharon

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From:

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Sent: Fri,

May 27, 2011 3:02:38 PM

Subject:

Re: pain dr./kids cleaning

One time our daughter was upset cause I wouldn't let her go

with a couple of girls. She said, thats child abuse! I said

really? Yes you can get turned in to CPS did you know that?

I said well I will tell you what, the police chief , is

right across the street, lets go get the number and see what

they have to say! End of discussion!! The girls she wanted

to go with were not the kind I wanted her hanging around

with.

Hugs

nne

To the world you might be one person, but to one person you

just might be the world"

"May the Lord Bless you and keep you,

May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you

Peace...Forever"

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

http://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/

Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancer

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancer

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

The Cancer Club

www.cancerclub.com

> pain dr.

>>>>

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> Still with the TN pain. I'm wondering if

anyone has had experience

>>>> with

>>>> pain

>>>> doctors. My neuro simply is raising my

baclofen, but I can already (at

>>>> 15

>>>> mgs) start to feel sleepy. I'm thinking an

appt with one might prove

>>>> to

>>>> be

>>>> helpful, but wanted to know what ya'll

thought.

>>>> I'm still doing the computer training, but

find it exceedingly

>> difficult

>>>> to

>>>> focus with the pain, and with the meds

making me sleepy. Planning on

>>>> giving

>>>> to the instructor the word, 'trigeminal

neuralgia' so she can look

>> it up

>>>> and

>>>> see what I'm suffering with. Maybe she'll

understand...especially

>> when I

>>>> make those grimacing faces at her! lol.

>>>> love you all, with gentle hugs,

>>>> Kate

>>>

>>>

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