Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Jeff, I take it you are male? You appear to have more serious problems than JUST adrenal fatigue. In typical adrenal fatigue labs when cortisl goes low, estrogen goes over range high. Male or female. This is loking more like pituitary problems, and it is important to differntiate between the two as one you can recover and eventually get off the steroid, the other it is very unlikely. I owuld suggest before you start ANYTHING for adrenal support you brow beat you r doctor into an ACTH Stim test so you know th difference. This wil tell if it is your adrenals that are not fuinctioning properly or your pituitary. With all your sex hormones low and your TSH is not high enouigh for the extreme low thyrpid you have, I am suspecting pituitary problems. This test must be dopne while off any adrnea support and once you start it it is VERY hard to stop for testing. Once that is done, you will need HC, and sex hormones, and Armour for thyroid. It is a hard group to balance by youreself so I would try to find a good hormone doctor. As for starting wiht one grain of Armour, you are liekly to have MANY problems starting that HIGH wiht your adrnela situation untreated. Often with weak adrenals we must start at 15-30MG and work up by 15mg increases eevery week. But you may nto even tolerate 15mg until your adrnelas are supported. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Val - Just reading your post with interest. So how would you treat a pituitary problem vs. a pure adrenal problem? And what results does the ACTH stim test provide? How long do you have to be off adrenal products prior to the test? lexie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 A pituitary problem you would replace ALL the hormones that are low. With just adrenal problems you replace first cortiols and then thyroidi and then recheck sex hormones to see if there is still an imbalance there. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 A pituitary problem you would replace ALL the hormones that are low. With just adrenal problems you replace first cortiols and then thyroidi and then recheck sex hormones to see if there is still an imbalance there. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 A pituitary problem you would replace ALL the hormones that are low. With just adrenal problems you replace first cortiols and then thyroidi and then recheck sex hormones to see if there is still an imbalance there. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Val - Is there any evidence that can be gained from doing an ACTH while stress dosing? I've been stress dosing for about 10 days as everytime I try not to, ooooh, it's bad. I have been able to lower from 60 to 50, but that's as far as I've gotten so far. My new DR wants an ACTH even though she knows I'm stress dosing. She said she wanted to see if the stress dosing was doing the job. I don't know if it makes a difference, but to give a little background .. . . I took her my medical history. In the history, it notes I have elevated lead levels and literally off the chart murcery (the lab's test maxed out, so we don't really know how high it is). She thinks this is having a heavy impact on my system. Could she be checking to try to get some idea of function level even if it's outside the box? Thanks! > > A pituitary problem you would replace ALL the hormones that are low. > With just adrenal problems you replace first cortiols and then thyroidi > and then recheck sex hormones to see if there is still an imbalance there. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 This doctor is out of her tree. Even while NOT stress dosing and just takign HC an ACTH is not accurate. Not even close. Taking . 50-60MG HC it will show you have not adrenal function.And that is not conclusive for anything just a given due to meds -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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