Re: International EMS Guidelines ?

March 15, 2010

Louis;

I have worked overseas and have found that the U.S. standards are followed

pretty closely. A lot of countries don't have any form of EMS and those that do

use our curriculum. I would say Britian and Germany have exceeded what we do in

America. They reqiuire their Paramedics to be trained almost to the PA level

and in some cases I've seen doctors on their ambulances in both countries.

I guess it just depends on where you are at. I've been in Europe and the

middleeast and every textbook I saw was from the U.S. I almost took a job

teaching paramedicine in the middleast at one of the big hospitals but decided

not to do it (just before the Iraq invasion).

Have you tried doing a search on the web for European EMS standards?

Good Luck hope you find what you need.

Eldon

>

> Does anyone know if there are any forms of an European or UK eqivilant

> of the US National Standard Curriculum for EMS or the National EMS

> Education Standads as published and maintained by the US Department of

> Transportation?

>

> Any insight would ne of a help.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> Training Program Manager

> Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc.

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

March 15, 2010

Eldon,

I've seem pretty much the same in my travels and tend to agree with

your comments.

I probably shoould have clarified that my intrest was at the EMR and

EMT-Basic levels as the question that was asked of me by a client of

ours in a " Third World Country " was aimed at that level only.

They were looking at using US Standards but in a moment of due

diligence they asked a question I seek to answer that question.

Thanks for the input.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Mar 15, 2010, at 20:25, " etaylor27472003 "

etaylor27472003@...> wrote:

> Louis;

>

> I have worked overseas and have found that the U.S. standards are

> followed pretty closely. A lot of countries don't have any form of

> EMS and those that do use our curriculum. I would say Britian and

> Germany have exceeded what we do in America. They reqiuire their

> Paramedics to be trained almost to the PA level and in some cases

> I've seen doctors on their ambulances in both countries.

>

> I guess it just depends on where you are at. I've been in Europe and

> the middleeast and every textbook I saw was from the U.S. I almost

> took a job teaching paramedicine in the middleast at one of the big

> hospitals but decided not to do it (just before the Iraq invasion).

>

> Have you tried doing a search on the web for European EMS standards?

>

> Good Luck hope you find what you need.

>

> Eldon

>

> >

> > Does anyone know if there are any forms of an European or UK

> eqivilant

> > of the US National Standard Curriculum for EMS or the National EMS

> > Education Standads as published and maintained by the US

> Department of

> > Transportation?

> >

> > Any insight would ne of a help.

> >

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> > Training Program Manager

> > Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc.

> > FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> > Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> > Please excuse any typos.

> > (Cell)

> > LNMolino@...

> >

>

March 16, 2010

When I was in Thailand 5 years ago I talked to some paramedics and they used

Bledsoe's Big Book as their bible. However, EMS is not provided everywhere, and

according to the people I talked to most patients go to the hospital in taxis or

in the back of pickups since there is no country-wide EMS system. Individual

hospitals have ambulances and the paramedics I talked to worked for one of them,

and they were very well educated from what I could tell, but they are the

exception.

Went to Cambodia and found that " EMS " evoked deer in the headlight stares.

They have Red Cross ambulances that are mostly horizontal taxis, as far as I

could tell, if you can find one. If you get sick or injured there, you get to

the hospital as best you can. And the hospitals are dismal, without supplies

and equipment and adequate medical staff.

On another topic but perhaps of interest to the group, Cambodia is still heavily

land mined. One does NOT go for a walk off well defined trails unless one wants

to return minus a body part or two. You see all sorts of children who are

missing limbs, eyes, and so forth from land mine blasts. Very sad. Outside the

temple that was featured in Croft, Tomb Raider, there was a little band of

about 12 kids from about 6 -15, all of whom were blind from blasts and many of

whom were also missing limbs, playing for tips. They were making incredibly

interesting and beautiful music, if you can stand Oriental music. I still tear

up when I think about them.

Our guide lost his mother and father to the Khmer Rouge, murdered by Pol Pot and

his gang. They were both college professors, and the Khmer killed all the

intellectuals they could find. Anybody who wore glasses was assumed to be an

intellectual and was killed. He lost a brother to a land mine while he was in

the Army. Another brother escaped and is an orthopedic surgeon in Los Angeles.

A large lot next to our hotel in Siem Reep had been one of the " killing fields "