Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 In a message dated 12/22/2004 9:40:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, ryno@... writes: > Does anyone know anything about Reverse T3? My recent level was > very high, and this new doctor I went to said that can indicate that > T3 can't get into the tissues. Is this commonly believed > information, or just this doctor's opinion? > i think the doctor is correct on this. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 In a message dated 12/22/2004 9:40:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, ryno@... writes: > Does anyone know anything about Reverse T3? My recent level was > very high, and this new doctor I went to said that can indicate that > T3 can't get into the tissues. Is this commonly believed > information, or just this doctor's opinion? > i think the doctor is correct on this. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 In a message dated 12/22/2004 9:40:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, ryno@... writes: > Does anyone know anything about Reverse T3? My recent level was > very high, and this new doctor I went to said that can indicate that > T3 can't get into the tissues. Is this commonly believed > information, or just this doctor's opinion? > i think the doctor is correct on this. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 From what I have read your doctor hit it right on the head. Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 From what I have read your doctor hit it right on the head. Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 From what I have read your doctor hit it right on the head. Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 http://www.drlowe.com/QandA/askdrlowe/thymetab.htm Here is a good article about Reverse T3 Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 http://www.drlowe.com/QandA/askdrlowe/thymetab.htm Here is a good article about Reverse T3 Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 http://www.drlowe.com/QandA/askdrlowe/thymetab.htm Here is a good article about Reverse T3 Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 just wondering what some of you can share with me on Reverse T3 and s syndrome. i've been hypothyroid for 20+yr. and have seen many doctors, several endocrinologists and havent' been completely satisfied with any of them. did a lot of reading about 5-6yr. ago - stuff by Shames and others and was at that time looking for a doc who knew s. never did find one until now. but at that time i did have a doc who started me on Cytomel (37.5mg 1x daily) which was in addition to my Synthroid. i tried Armour right before the Cytomel but couldn't stand to do it sublingual and it wasnt' being absorbed otherwise. anyhow this new doc is lowering my synthroid, keeping the cytomel stable and basically looking at the reverse T3 and the cellular absorption. unfortunatly its hard to know if the tiredness is from the stress of the job, being sick with my 3rd sinus infection in 5mo. or the hypo. i hadn't had a wt. gain in about 2yr. but can't lose the wt. i gained then either. thanks sue __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 that time looking for a doc who knew s. > never did find one until now. but at that time i > did have a doc who started me on Cytomel (37.5mg > 1x daily) which was in addition to my Synthroid. > i tried Armour right before the Cytomel but > couldn't stand to do it sublingual and it wasnt' > being absorbed otherwise. Do not know much about 's other than they use excessive amounts of T3.. Do you have labs? Normally what you look for is a T4 that is near the top end of the range and a T3 that is low..if both the T4 and T3 are low then raising the T4 will help raise the T3.. One question? How do you feel in the afternoon? Are you ready for an afternoon nap most days or dragging at night? I ask because on a normal basis the body relies on T4 to convert to T3. Synthroid is a T4 medication, Cytomel is a T3 medication. 37.5mg is a lot of T3 to be taking all at once and most people I see spread it out during the day for more of an even feeling during the day. Now everyone is different to what works and what does not work so it could be working for you? How about some details, how are you feeling? Do you have recent labs? Why are you hypo? Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 > Do you have labs? Normally what you look for is > a T4 that is near > the top end of the range and a T3 that is > low.. ***quest screwed up my most recent labs and i only have a reverse T3 but my prev. labs from summer show exactly the opposite of what you say - t4 super low, t3 high end. > One question? How do you feel in the afternoon? > Are you ready for an > afternoon nap most days or dragging at night? ***some days i'm real tired between 2 and 4 but is it the job stress? or being sick with sinus infections/sore throat almost non-stop since april? antibiotics overuse? working two jobs? or thyroid? not generally tired at night. > I ask because on a normal basis the body relies > on T4 to convert to > T3. ***right and thats why i was started on the cytomel about 6yr. ago because it was believed that my body was Not converting the t4 to t3. > Why are you hypo? ***good question - 22yr. ago when i had a TSH run and was always tired it was low, i was started on synthroid and pretty much went about my life taking synthyoid daily for all these years. have seen many doc, several endo - i felt like maybe i knew more than they did! over the years they would increase or lower the dose by 25mcg and retest in 6mo. then 6yr. ago they tried to cytomel - anything to get some energy back, stop gaining wt. but as i said above who knows what is the source of the tiredness... at least this new doc is trying some things and working with me and retesting every 6wk - not months. the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes. also cut a few hours from my second job and on the mend from the most recent sinus infection. sue __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 > Do you have labs? Normally what you look for is > a T4 that is near > the top end of the range and a T3 that is > low.. ***quest screwed up my most recent labs and i only have a reverse T3 but my prev. labs from summer show exactly the opposite of what you say - t4 super low, t3 high end. > One question? How do you feel in the afternoon? > Are you ready for an > afternoon nap most days or dragging at night? ***some days i'm real tired between 2 and 4 but is it the job stress? or being sick with sinus infections/sore throat almost non-stop since april? antibiotics overuse? working two jobs? or thyroid? not generally tired at night. > I ask because on a normal basis the body relies > on T4 to convert to > T3. ***right and thats why i was started on the cytomel about 6yr. ago because it was believed that my body was Not converting the t4 to t3. > Why are you hypo? ***good question - 22yr. ago when i had a TSH run and was always tired it was low, i was started on synthroid and pretty much went about my life taking synthyoid daily for all these years. have seen many doc, several endo - i felt like maybe i knew more than they did! over the years they would increase or lower the dose by 25mcg and retest in 6mo. then 6yr. ago they tried to cytomel - anything to get some energy back, stop gaining wt. but as i said above who knows what is the source of the tiredness... at least this new doc is trying some things and working with me and retesting every 6wk - not months. the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes. also cut a few hours from my second job and on the mend from the most recent sinus infection. sue __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Do you know what your last Reverse T3 number and range is. Mine was 143 (90-350). The body takes T4 and creates T3 (accelerator) and RT3 (brakes). RT3 is created to slow the metabolism for various reasons. It makes sense that your T4 is low since your body is making so much RT3 along with the T3. Overproduction of RT3 can be genetic or caused by things like starvation dieting. Animals in the north country produce large amounts of RT3 in the winter when food is scarce, slowing the metabolism so that they don't starve. When people consume too few calories, the body can save itself by producing RT3 to slow things down, but unlike the northern animals, when food is reintroduced, it doesn't readily switch back... Judy the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Do you know what your last Reverse T3 number and range is. Mine was 143 (90-350). The body takes T4 and creates T3 (accelerator) and RT3 (brakes). RT3 is created to slow the metabolism for various reasons. It makes sense that your T4 is low since your body is making so much RT3 along with the T3. Overproduction of RT3 can be genetic or caused by things like starvation dieting. Animals in the north country produce large amounts of RT3 in the winter when food is scarce, slowing the metabolism so that they don't starve. When people consume too few calories, the body can save itself by producing RT3 to slow things down, but unlike the northern animals, when food is reintroduced, it doesn't readily switch back... Judy the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Do you know what your last Reverse T3 number and range is. Mine was 143 (90-350). The body takes T4 and creates T3 (accelerator) and RT3 (brakes). RT3 is created to slow the metabolism for various reasons. It makes sense that your T4 is low since your body is making so much RT3 along with the T3. Overproduction of RT3 can be genetic or caused by things like starvation dieting. Animals in the north country produce large amounts of RT3 in the winter when food is scarce, slowing the metabolism so that they don't starve. When people consume too few calories, the body can save itself by producing RT3 to slow things down, but unlike the northern animals, when food is reintroduced, it doesn't readily switch back... Judy the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'm a northern animal....and no, the body doesn't switch back so fast when food is introduced back into the diet. I honestly think I did this to myself by not eating, it's making more and more sense with what I see. My hair has improved, etc etc, and it's because, I'm sure, I'm eating meals now, instead of just grabbing toast now and again. Now I'm chubby and did it to myself you could say. SpiffJudy P wrote: Do you know what your last Reverse T3 number and range is. Mine was 143 (90-350). The body takes T4 and creates T3 (accelerator) and RT3 (brakes). RT3 is created to slow the metabolism for various reasons. It makes sense that your T4 is low since your body is making so much RT3 along with the T3. Overproduction of RT3 can be genetic or caused by things like starvation dieting. Animals in the north country produce large amounts of RT3 in the winter when food is scarce, slowing the metabolism so that they don't starve. When people consume too few calories, the body can save itself by producing RT3 to slow things down, but unlike the northern animals, when food is reintroduced, it doesn't readily switch back... Judy the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'm a northern animal....and no, the body doesn't switch back so fast when food is introduced back into the diet. I honestly think I did this to myself by not eating, it's making more and more sense with what I see. My hair has improved, etc etc, and it's because, I'm sure, I'm eating meals now, instead of just grabbing toast now and again. Now I'm chubby and did it to myself you could say. SpiffJudy P wrote: Do you know what your last Reverse T3 number and range is. Mine was 143 (90-350). The body takes T4 and creates T3 (accelerator) and RT3 (brakes). RT3 is created to slow the metabolism for various reasons. It makes sense that your T4 is low since your body is making so much RT3 along with the T3. Overproduction of RT3 can be genetic or caused by things like starvation dieting. Animals in the north country produce large amounts of RT3 in the winter when food is scarce, slowing the metabolism so that they don't starve. When people consume too few calories, the body can save itself by producing RT3 to slow things down, but unlike the northern animals, when food is reintroduced, it doesn't readily switch back... Judy the way he explained the reverse t3 to me makes total sense and with lowering the synthroid and keeping the cytomel steady for now we'll see if anything changes Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 my T3, total was 183 (60-181) and my T3, reverse was .20 (.11-.32) long history of dieting, low resting metabolic rate, i always said i'd make a great bear in winter!! because Quest screwed up my labs, i have no T4, free indexes or TSH from this set of labs. > Do you know what your last Reverse T3 number > and range is. Mine was 143 (90-350). The body > takes T4 and creates T3 (accelerator) and RT3 > (brakes). RT3 is created to slow the > metabolism for various reasons. It makes sense > that your T4 is low since your body is making > so much RT3 along with the T3. Overproduction > of RT3 can be genetic or caused by things like > starvation dieting. Animals in the north > country produce large amounts of RT3 in the > winter when food is scarce, slowing the > metabolism so that they don't starve. When > people consume too few calories, the body can > save itself by producing RT3 to slow things > down, __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'm surprised that your RT3 is in range. Did the doctor say that it was too high? I've found all sorts of information about Reverse T3, but I've never found what real people (outside of the lab ranges) think is a suitable number. I guess like other things that it should maybe be at the low end of the range. I'll see what else I can find. Higher RT3 levels are often found in ancestors of those who survived great famines like the Irish potato famine... Judy my T3, total was 183 (60-181) and my T3, reverse was .20 (.11-.32) long history of dieting, low resting metabolic rate, i always said i'd make a great bear inwinter!! because Quest screwed up my labs, i have no T4, free indexes or TSH from this set of labs. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 he didn't say it was too high which is maybe why he kept the cytomel dose the same. my body temp runs 96 day and night and thats part of wilsons syndrome also. i'll have to check Shames book because he has an opinion on lab ranges, usually that they should be low or below the norm range. he seems to treat symptoms more than numbers as is this current doc i am seeing. irish famine, depression era starvation, you name it - i'm the perfect hibernating bear. my RMR is only 1104. sue > I'm surprised that your RT3 is in range. Did > the doctor say that it was too high? I've > found all sorts of information about Reverse > T3, but I've never found what real people > (outside of the lab ranges) think is a suitable > number. I guess like other things that it > should maybe be at the low end of the range. > I'll see what else I can find. Higher RT3 > levels are often found in ancestors of those > who survived great famines like the Irish > potato famine... Judy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 OK convert to same denimination by changing T3 to 284 deivide that by the RT3 which is 27 and your ratio is 10.51 It needs ot be at least 20. T4 will not be good for you to take and as I have seen in the past he knows NOTHING abotu RT3. Or Cortiosl. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'm still trying to grasp the whole RT3 concept and I've never heard of the ratio before. Val, could you also look at my ratio and tell me what it means? Thanks so much! Jodi P.S. - Here are my lab values: Reverse T3 - 251 (range 90 - 350 pg/ml) Free T3 - 3.33 (range 2.30 - 4.20 pg/ml) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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