AARGGH! Yet another damn Lyrica commercial for FMG..

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*Every* time I see one of those commericals for the treatment of

FMG with Lyrica (that drug seems to get another indicaiton about

every six months - I think this is probably on purpose), I think

about Dr. Lowes research on FMG treatment.. I find it a bit amusing

they say " the only *FDA approved* treatment for FMG. " I think,

" umm.. what about *unapproved* treatments.. Like T3! "

And of course, Lyrica doesn't (as far as I know) do anything about

the cause(s) of FMG. As much as we know about the causes, that is.

Jim

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Lol! I saw that one too!

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> *Every* time I see one of those commericals for the treatment of

> FMG with Lyrica (that drug seems to get another indicaiton about

> every six months - I think this is probably on purpose), I think

> about Dr. Lowes research on FMG treatment.. I find it a bit amusing

> they say " the only *FDA approved* treatment for FMG. " I think,

> " umm.. what about *unapproved* treatments.. Like T3! "

>

> And of course, Lyrica doesn't (as far as I know) do anything about

> the cause(s) of FMG. As much as we know about the causes, that is.

>

> Jim

>

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9:39 AM

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Does Dr. Lowe have a proven method that works for Fibro???? I have Fibro,

but don't even bother to do much of anything for it, but do believe it is

connected to the endocrine system being out of whack...from lack of sleep on

down. I didn't notice it getting any better, even when I was on armour And

cytomel - the cytomel made my T3 go up to 1024, so had to eliminate that.

What have people on here found helps with it??

SeaLady

*Every* time I see one of those commericals for the treatment of

FMG with Lyrica (that drug seems to get another indicaiton about

every six months - I think this is probably on purpose), I think

about Dr. Lowes research on FMG treatment.. I find it a bit amusing

they say " the only *FDA approved* treatment for FMG. " I think,

" umm.. what about *unapproved* treatments.. Like T3! "

And of course, Lyrica doesn't (as far as I know) do anything about

the cause(s) of FMG. As much as we know about the causes, that is.

[Guest guest]

Sol, any idea why avoiding mint is a part of that protocol? I drink so much of

the tea, I'm almost afraid to ask.

Thank's,

Pat

Re: AARGGH! Yet another damn Lyrica commercial for

FMG..

Hi Jim,

You should be on the FM lists I'm on (maybe you are on some?). People

are taking Lyrica right and left, and many have had awful side effects,

and as you say it doesn't fix the cause at all. The side effects people

have written about are freaking scary. Driving someplace and then not

knowing how they got there " sleep walking " int he daytime. Falling

alseep at the wheel.............

I refer to or comment on thyroid or adrenal causes of FM from time to

time, but no one has ever commented nor has anyone EVER asked for more

info. It falls on deaf ears/eyes.

But they sure suck up the ideas of Dr. St. Amand, in which basically

people go on a very restrictive way of life (no topical salicylates)

which means no herbals no toothpaste or anything with mint, and on and

on and on, plus his guaifenesin treatment puts them into more pain,

which they say is good and a sign it is working.

I actually tried his protocol for 8 months, but it didn't work for me at

all. I also couldn't stand the replacement products for sal-full

ones--the replacements may not have salicylates but they are full of

toxic chemicals and preservatives. The only benefit I got from the

protocol was a return to a low carb diet, which did benefit me hugely.

Given that people will fall all over themselves to ask about the

guaifenesin, and are willing to be in MORE pain on that protocol, as

well as the willingness to take every horrible drug they can get their

hands on, it strikes me so weird they won't even LOOK at the idea FM

could be thyroid/adrenal. It amazes me.

sol

Jim Witte wrote:

> *Every* time I see one of those commericals for the treatment of

> FMG with Lyrica (that drug seems to get another indicaiton about

> every six months - I think this is probably on purpose), I think

> about Dr. Lowes research on FMG treatment.. I find it a bit amusing

> they say " the only *FDA approved* treatment for FMG. " I think,

> " umm.. what about *unapproved* treatments.. Like T3! "

>

> And of course, Lyrica doesn't (as far as I know) do anything about

> the cause(s) of FMG. As much as we know about the causes, that is.

>

>

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11:04 AM

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Because mint contains salicylates, one of the highest sources. So no

mint mouthwash, no mint toothpaste (which is virtually ALL of the

regular toothpastes), no mint tea, no shampoo, lotion or anything with

any mint at all. The idea is that topical salicylates block the action

of guaifenesin. Also no regular tea, again because of salicylates. Some

people say they can't brush against plants, can't garden without gloves,

can't walk barefoot in grass, etc. I might be still taking guai if it

had helped me but it didn't. A good pain med and a low carb diet DID

help! And I hope I'm now addressing the root causes of my

" fibromyalgia " , myofascial pain syndrome, and chronic fatigue. Funny how

all the symptoms of those are also symptoms of low cortisol and

hypothyroid.

Guai is supposed to remove excess phosphate from muscles, tendons, and

joints, which excess phosphate is supposed to the cause of fibromyalgia.

Excess phosphate is thought to interfere with the ATP production in the

cells. The " phosphate hypothesis " seemed possible when I was nearly

unable to walk and was desperate, but honestly it seems like a really

loopy idea to me now. And over the last couple years, I have come to

believe what guaiers see as " cycling " is just normal flare and

remissionof symptoms, which I had experienced for 20 + years. Still a

lot of people swear it has helped them.

You can read the protocol and lists of sall-full and sal-free products

here--

http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/

And a discussion with references on guaifenesin

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/guai.html

The guai advocates pooh-pooh the London article, but I followed a couple

of the references, and they say what he says they say. The Mark London

critics do not have references which convince me.

sol

pat wrote:

> Sol, any idea why avoiding mint is a part of that protocol? I drink so much

of the tea, I'm almost afraid to ask.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Because mint contains salicylates, one of the highest sources. So no

mint mouthwash, no mint toothpaste (which is virtually ALL of the

regular toothpastes), no mint tea, no shampoo, lotion or anything with

any mint at all. The idea is that topical salicylates block the action

of guaifenesin. Also no regular tea, again because of salicylates. Some

people say they can't brush against plants, can't garden without gloves,

can't walk barefoot in grass, etc. I might be still taking guai if it

had helped me but it didn't. A good pain med and a low carb diet DID

help! And I hope I'm now addressing the root causes of my

" fibromyalgia " , myofascial pain syndrome, and chronic fatigue. Funny how

all the symptoms of those are also symptoms of low cortisol and

hypothyroid.

Guai is supposed to remove excess phosphate from muscles, tendons, and

joints, which excess phosphate is supposed to the cause of fibromyalgia.

Excess phosphate is thought to interfere with the ATP production in the

cells. The " phosphate hypothesis " seemed possible when I was nearly

unable to walk and was desperate, but honestly it seems like a really

loopy idea to me now. And over the last couple years, I have come to

believe what guaiers see as " cycling " is just normal flare and

remissionof symptoms, which I had experienced for 20 + years. Still a

lot of people swear it has helped them.

You can read the protocol and lists of sall-full and sal-free products

here--

http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/

And a discussion with references on guaifenesin

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/guai.html

The guai advocates pooh-pooh the London article, but I followed a couple

of the references, and they say what he says they say. The Mark London

critics do not have references which convince me.

sol

pat wrote:

> Sol, any idea why avoiding mint is a part of that protocol? I drink so much

of the tea, I'm almost afraid to ask.

>

>