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Totally agree with you, . I found our 10 month old kitten

*in* our lavatory today, drinking the water. She managed not to get

her feet wet, though, and I resisted the very strong urge to pull the

flush. ;-)

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But cats, no, can't get them to behave in the lavatorial department.

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Totally agree with you, . I found our 10 month old kitten

*in* our lavatory today, drinking the water. She managed not to get

her feet wet, though, and I resisted the very strong urge to pull the

flush. ;-)

Lesley

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But cats, no, can't get them to behave in the lavatorial department.

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Totally agree with you, . I found our 10 month old kitten

*in* our lavatory today, drinking the water. She managed not to get

her feet wet, though, and I resisted the very strong urge to pull the

flush. ;-)

Lesley

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But cats, no, can't get them to behave in the lavatorial department.

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Pre-school at 2yr8m? That seems awfully early, in itself. Does that

mean he will be going to 'real' school when he is 3yr8m?

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Josh is 2y5m1w now

Preschool Starts in September when he will be 2y8m1w

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OTOH, my boys also took only a few days to be reliably trained, yet

they were just 2 yo, so 3 isn't necessarily the magic age.

And, FWIW, having been told that boys are much harder to train than

girls, I was extremely miffed to discover that training my girls, at

2.5 -2.75 yrs took a darn sight more time and effort than the boys

ever had!! Kuh!

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It took me several kids and a LORRA LORRA trauma to figure out that if

we just waited till they were good and ready,(3rd birthday or

thereabouts) the whole potty training process was hardly a hassle at

all, my youngest few took a day or two to be bone dry.

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Pete & Lesley Reader wrote:

> OTOH, my boys also took only a few days to be reliably trained, yet

> they were just 2 yo, so 3 isn't necessarily the magic age.

>

I think the magical age is different for each child. DS decided he wanted to

wear 'big boy pants' about a week after his little sister was born. He was

reliably dry in a couple of days. He was 2y4m at the time and I hadn't

planned to get him out of nappies when I had such a tiny baby to look after,

but that's the way it worked. I went out and bought a travel potty - which

is the best thing I ever did as it meant we didn't have to find a loo as I

was quite happy to whip it out in the middle of M&S (well maybe not the

middle of the food section!) or wherever we happened to be.

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Maybe you need to be a bit firmer with your son. Let him wear pants during

the day as a treat, and if he is dry then compromise over what he wears at

night, but if he is wet, then make him wear a nappy at night and no pants.

Otherwise he is just running rings round you, and your letting him have his

own way all the time.

My stepson never used a potty, he went straight to the tilet. Both myself

and my DH let him watch us go to the loo for a few weeks, and then he wanted

to try it to. It was like a game, he wanted to be grown up like daddy, and

it was fun to wash his hands and pick a coloured towel to use.

Unfortunately he loved the attention too, and would ask to use the toilet

every half an hour. After a few days of this, we would make him sit on the

toilet for 5 mins and he soon got bored and asked to go only when he neede to.

It may sound victorian (and I dont agree in being over the top), but maybe

you need to be a bit more firm, and your son will respect you more in later

years.

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths) DSS Craig (3 yrs 2 mths)

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Maybe you need to be a bit firmer with your son. Let him wear pants during

the day as a treat, and if he is dry then compromise over what he wears at

night, but if he is wet, then make him wear a nappy at night and no pants.

Otherwise he is just running rings round you, and your letting him have his

own way all the time.

My stepson never used a potty, he went straight to the tilet. Both myself

and my DH let him watch us go to the loo for a few weeks, and then he wanted

to try it to. It was like a game, he wanted to be grown up like daddy, and

it was fun to wash his hands and pick a coloured towel to use.

Unfortunately he loved the attention too, and would ask to use the toilet

every half an hour. After a few days of this, we would make him sit on the

toilet for 5 mins and he soon got bored and asked to go only when he neede to.

It may sound victorian (and I dont agree in being over the top), but maybe

you need to be a bit more firm, and your son will respect you more in later

years.

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths) DSS Craig (3 yrs 2 mths)

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Maybe you need to be a bit firmer with your son. Let him wear pants during

the day as a treat, and if he is dry then compromise over what he wears at

night, but if he is wet, then make him wear a nappy at night and no pants.

Otherwise he is just running rings round you, and your letting him have his

own way all the time.

My stepson never used a potty, he went straight to the tilet. Both myself

and my DH let him watch us go to the loo for a few weeks, and then he wanted

to try it to. It was like a game, he wanted to be grown up like daddy, and

it was fun to wash his hands and pick a coloured towel to use.

Unfortunately he loved the attention too, and would ask to use the toilet

every half an hour. After a few days of this, we would make him sit on the

toilet for 5 mins and he soon got bored and asked to go only when he neede to.

It may sound victorian (and I dont agree in being over the top), but maybe

you need to be a bit more firm, and your son will respect you more in later

years.

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths) DSS Craig (3 yrs 2 mths)

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I have three cats, and one of them, before using the litter tray, will get in

the tray, scratch about for at least five minutes, stand on the edge of the

tray, deposit a large mass over the edge onto the floor, and then spend

another five minutes trying to bury the mess that he hasnt actually left in

the tray! He then looks at the litter, satisfied that he has buried his

deposit, and never notices what he has left on the floor!! (which the dog

often eats if he accidently gets let out into the room!).

How pleasant!

Sorry, had to share it!

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths)

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I have three cats, and one of them, before using the litter tray, will get in

the tray, scratch about for at least five minutes, stand on the edge of the

tray, deposit a large mass over the edge onto the floor, and then spend

another five minutes trying to bury the mess that he hasnt actually left in

the tray! He then looks at the litter, satisfied that he has buried his

deposit, and never notices what he has left on the floor!! (which the dog

often eats if he accidently gets let out into the room!).

How pleasant!

Sorry, had to share it!

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths)

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I have three cats, and one of them, before using the litter tray, will get in

the tray, scratch about for at least five minutes, stand on the edge of the

tray, deposit a large mass over the edge onto the floor, and then spend

another five minutes trying to bury the mess that he hasnt actually left in

the tray! He then looks at the litter, satisfied that he has buried his

deposit, and never notices what he has left on the floor!! (which the dog

often eats if he accidently gets let out into the room!).

How pleasant!

Sorry, had to share it!

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths)

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I remember only ever revising for my GCSE's the day or two before the exam.

I was bottom set for everything, and predicted 8 E's. My school (a private

victorian hell hole) told me I was not allowed back to d my A-levels and that

I would be lucky if I ever managed to get a BTEC!

Well, I got 5 B's at GCSE a C, a D and an E (well I hated french anyway!). I

went on to do A-levels at colege and met a teacher who made learning fun. I

am now 27, and at 23 got a BA (hons) dgree and narrowly missed a 1st. So

just let your son do it at his own pace. Most kids his age are amazingly

capable at remembering facts and figures, and dont really need to revise like

you do when you get older.

My Mum and Dad thought I wasnt that bright (because the school kept telling

them I was a half wit) so they always encouraged me to just do my best and I

did in the end!

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths)

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:))) LOL, and Lonnie - sorry: it's so long since I looked in the

disposable aisle of a supermarket that I sometimes forget they exist!!

Vicki Portman

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>

> not sure I should say this as I know there is a lot of cloth fans here

but Huggies pull ups will take a flod

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> Pre-school at 2yr8m? That seems awfully early, in itself. Does that

> mean he will be going to 'real' school when he is 3yr8m?

No Lesley, he would attend pre-school for 2 years and school at 4y8m.

He is only starting for 2 mornings of 2 1/2 hours each, and he is well ready

for it, potty training aside.

> From: & -Jane

>

> Josh is 2y5m1w now

> Preschool Starts in September when he will be 2y8m1w

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> :))) LOL, and Lonnie - sorry: it's so long since I looked in the

> disposable aisle of a supermarket that I sometimes forget they exist!!

Funny - I never forget that re-useables exist, despite being a Huggies Mum.

Anyway DS is in Huggies Pull-Ups today and even asked for a wee just now,

well he says, got a wee Mummy. I then ask if he needs the potty but he just

can't say yes, or potty or anything resembling that requirement. So I just

took him anyway, and he did a big wee. I have told him I won't be taking him

to the potty today unless he asks.

We'll see what happens

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>not sure I should say this as I know there is a lot of cloth fans

>here but Huggies pull ups will take a flod (I accidentally put

>Phoebe in the bath wearing one and it came of VERY wet but still

>intact ;o)... ) and Phoebe has a couple of times worn just the one

>all day when mummy has been stupid and forgotten to add new ones to

>the changing bag..

>Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

The (cloth) training pants I have definitely prevent the down the

legs and onto the floor stuff. Depending on how much, if you spot the

accident within say 10 minutes quarter of an hour, you only have the

pants to change, longer and you *might* have trousers to deal with

too. The ones I would particularly recommend are the Sam I

Am/Indisposables because you can get them in such fantastic designs.

Miranda of Twinkle tells me that one child was so anxious not to wet

them that did the trick on its own. Didn't work like that for me but

it did allow me to permit DS1 to wear pants when he wanted. Part of

the point is that you want to be able to see when the child has had

an accident so they come to perceive the wet feeling as something you

do something about straight away and ultimately they stop before they

start IYSWIM - I am sure we can all testify to the fact that toilet

training is really 'not in your pants' training. When DS1 'went for

it' he would get damp patches on his pants to start with (first few

days)

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jennifer@...

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> Maybe you need to be a bit firmer with your son. Let him wear pants

during

> the day as a treat, and if he is dry then compromise over what he wears at

> night, but if he is wet, then make him wear a nappy at night and no pants.

> Otherwise he is just running rings round you, and your letting him have

his

> own way all the time.

He does wear a nappy at night, he only wears one over his pants for his

daytime sleep. He is in trainers today.

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> Maybe you need to be a bit firmer with your son. Let him wear pants

during

> the day as a treat, and if he is dry then compromise over what he wears at

> night, but if he is wet, then make him wear a nappy at night and no pants.

> Otherwise he is just running rings round you, and your letting him have

his

> own way all the time.

He does wear a nappy at night, he only wears one over his pants for his

daytime sleep. He is in trainers today.

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Lesley said:> Totally agree with you, . I found our 10 month

old kitten

> *in* our lavatory today, drinking the water. She managed not to get

> her feet wet, though, and I resisted the very strong urge to pull

the

> flush. ;-) LOL

My cats do this, but be careful to keep the lid down if you have

cleaner in the loo or cistern - we had a very sad and ill kitty after

loo drinking repeatedly til we worked out what was going on :-}

Also if they will drink from the loo, they drink your bedside water

too ;-)) which tastes very strange afterwards... If only they'd use

the loo properly, wouldn't have to clear up little piles of things

when DD has closed the door on that part of the house...

Caro

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LOL. DS2(age 21) and I have exactly this conversation, except it's in

reverse, when he catches *me* on the pootoo!!!!

Lesley

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It takes an ENORMOUS amount of self control to stick to that when DS3

is playing on the computer and watching TV (simultaneously) all day!

I always end up saying " are you going to muck about like that ALL

day? " and he looks at me disdainfully and says: " I thought you weren't

going to nag! "

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LOL. DS2(age 21) and I have exactly this conversation, except it's in

reverse, when he catches *me* on the pootoo!!!!

Lesley

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It takes an ENORMOUS amount of self control to stick to that when DS3

is playing on the computer and watching TV (simultaneously) all day!

I always end up saying " are you going to muck about like that ALL

day? " and he looks at me disdainfully and says: " I thought you weren't

going to nag! "

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We do put newspaper all around the tray, which helps. The dog is revolting,

and whilst it is tempting to let him eat any stray lumps of cat poop, his

breath would be pretty rough, and I wouldnt want him in the house!! LOL

The cat is a constant pain, prefering to come into the house to go to the

loo, then back outside to play!!

Still, keeps me amused!

SAHM to Rohan (3 mths)

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> I have three cats, and one of them, before using the litter tray, will get

in

> the tray, scratch about for at least five minutes, stand on the edge of

the

> tray, deposit a large mass over the edge onto the floor, and then spend

> another five minutes trying to bury the mess that he hasnt actually left

in

> the tray! He then looks at the litter, satisfied that he has buried his

> deposit, and never notices what he has left on the floor!! (which the dog

> often eats if he accidently gets let out into the room!).

YUK!

Don't you put loads of newspaper under and around the tray?

Could you put a box around the tray, roof or no roof?

Couldn't you employ the dog full time to clear up the mess! (only joking

BTW)

with no cats nor dogs but a DS who is just as bad.

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> I have three cats, and one of them, before using the litter tray, will get

in

> the tray, scratch about for at least five minutes, stand on the edge of

the

> tray, deposit a large mass over the edge onto the floor, and then spend

> another five minutes trying to bury the mess that he hasnt actually left

in

> the tray! He then looks at the litter, satisfied that he has buried his

> deposit, and never notices what he has left on the floor!! (which the dog

> often eats if he accidently gets let out into the room!).

YUK!

Don't you put loads of newspaper under and around the tray?

Could you put a box around the tray, roof or no roof?

Couldn't you employ the dog full time to clear up the mess! (only joking

BTW)

with no cats nor dogs but a DS who is just as bad.

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