Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? I'm in the middle of my 3rd cycle. It was a long time between the 2nd and 3rd cycle, which is why I haven't emailed/posted about it. > Has you temperature risen? Nope. However, my temperature does seem more stable than it used to be. Not positive, though, because I have been getting lazy about taking my temperature. I am getting darn good at remembering to check my heart rate and blood pressure, though. > How many cycles have you done? I'm at the top of the 3rd cycle. > Any other interesting points? I feel absolutely wretched. I will post more when I feel better. I guess this is the " flu-like " feeling that is mentioned as a possible side effect. -- > Thanks, > Dean > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? I'm in the middle of my 3rd cycle. It was a long time between the 2nd and 3rd cycle, which is why I haven't emailed/posted about it. > Has you temperature risen? Nope. However, my temperature does seem more stable than it used to be. Not positive, though, because I have been getting lazy about taking my temperature. I am getting darn good at remembering to check my heart rate and blood pressure, though. > How many cycles have you done? I'm at the top of the 3rd cycle. > Any other interesting points? I feel absolutely wretched. I will post more when I feel better. I guess this is the " flu-like " feeling that is mentioned as a possible side effect. -- > Thanks, > Dean > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? > Has you temperature risen? > How many cycles have you done? > Any other interesting points? > > Thanks, > Dean Hi Dean, Another quick update. The flulike feelings are gone, and this morning my temp was 97.8 - I'm not sure if it means anything since I was on the couch with a space heater blowing against me, but maybe it is a hopeful sign (it is unusual, but not unheard of for me to have a temp that high). I can't say I feel good, just not flulike anymore. I slept very poorly last night with funny heart feelings and " fear in the chest " . I am taking the cardiac herbs they recommend on the s website, which does help. My blood pressure was 108/65 this morning. I am not sure what to make of that, since my bp goes up from lying to standing, which I think means my adrenals are doing okay. In recent months (since being on HC), my bp has been running 120/80 on good days. Taking T3 or taking too little HC can push it down. On second cycle, I had problems at 30 mcg, took T4 which helped, then tried going to 37.5 mcg and had to take more T4. So I weaned the cycle at that point. So it was a surprise that I am tolerating higher doses of T3 again on this cycle. In between cycle 2 and 3, I had NAET/Bioset treatments for thyroid hormones and salt. I was very, very weak to salt. Noticeably weak to TSH, T3, and T4, but not nearly as bad as salt. The treatment for salt immediately reduced my cravings for salt and I don't seem to need as much of it anymore (it is possible to overly salt my food now). I was exhausted after the treatment for thyroid, and I guess this treatment is the reason I am tolerating higher doses of T3 again - I have no other explanation (unless maybe I am just monitoring myself better and managing symptoms as early as possible). We'll see if it lasts. Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be constantly managing them. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? > Has you temperature risen? > How many cycles have you done? > Any other interesting points? > > Thanks, > Dean Hi Dean, Another quick update. The flulike feelings are gone, and this morning my temp was 97.8 - I'm not sure if it means anything since I was on the couch with a space heater blowing against me, but maybe it is a hopeful sign (it is unusual, but not unheard of for me to have a temp that high). I can't say I feel good, just not flulike anymore. I slept very poorly last night with funny heart feelings and " fear in the chest " . I am taking the cardiac herbs they recommend on the s website, which does help. My blood pressure was 108/65 this morning. I am not sure what to make of that, since my bp goes up from lying to standing, which I think means my adrenals are doing okay. In recent months (since being on HC), my bp has been running 120/80 on good days. Taking T3 or taking too little HC can push it down. On second cycle, I had problems at 30 mcg, took T4 which helped, then tried going to 37.5 mcg and had to take more T4. So I weaned the cycle at that point. So it was a surprise that I am tolerating higher doses of T3 again on this cycle. In between cycle 2 and 3, I had NAET/Bioset treatments for thyroid hormones and salt. I was very, very weak to salt. Noticeably weak to TSH, T3, and T4, but not nearly as bad as salt. The treatment for salt immediately reduced my cravings for salt and I don't seem to need as much of it anymore (it is possible to overly salt my food now). I was exhausted after the treatment for thyroid, and I guess this treatment is the reason I am tolerating higher doses of T3 again - I have no other explanation (unless maybe I am just monitoring myself better and managing symptoms as early as possible). We'll see if it lasts. Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be constantly managing them. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? > Has you temperature risen? > How many cycles have you done? > Any other interesting points? > > Thanks, > Dean Hi Dean, Another quick update. The flulike feelings are gone, and this morning my temp was 97.8 - I'm not sure if it means anything since I was on the couch with a space heater blowing against me, but maybe it is a hopeful sign (it is unusual, but not unheard of for me to have a temp that high). I can't say I feel good, just not flulike anymore. I slept very poorly last night with funny heart feelings and " fear in the chest " . I am taking the cardiac herbs they recommend on the s website, which does help. My blood pressure was 108/65 this morning. I am not sure what to make of that, since my bp goes up from lying to standing, which I think means my adrenals are doing okay. In recent months (since being on HC), my bp has been running 120/80 on good days. Taking T3 or taking too little HC can push it down. On second cycle, I had problems at 30 mcg, took T4 which helped, then tried going to 37.5 mcg and had to take more T4. So I weaned the cycle at that point. So it was a surprise that I am tolerating higher doses of T3 again on this cycle. In between cycle 2 and 3, I had NAET/Bioset treatments for thyroid hormones and salt. I was very, very weak to salt. Noticeably weak to TSH, T3, and T4, but not nearly as bad as salt. The treatment for salt immediately reduced my cravings for salt and I don't seem to need as much of it anymore (it is possible to overly salt my food now). I was exhausted after the treatment for thyroid, and I guess this treatment is the reason I am tolerating higher doses of T3 again - I have no other explanation (unless maybe I am just monitoring myself better and managing symptoms as early as possible). We'll see if it lasts. Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be constantly managing them. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? > Has you temperature risen? > How many cycles have you done? > Any other interesting points? > > Thanks, > Dean If you want your temperatures to raise, try coconut oil, it's thermogenic. NOW makes it in capsules now for people who do not care for the taste, or you can just eat it by the tblspoon full and also cook with it. It made our little one's temps go up to normal for the first time. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? > Has you temperature risen? > How many cycles have you done? > Any other interesting points? > > Thanks, > Dean If you want your temperatures to raise, try coconut oil, it's thermogenic. NOW makes it in capsules now for people who do not care for the taste, or you can just eat it by the tblspoon full and also cook with it. It made our little one's temps go up to normal for the first time. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi , > > Can you give some more feedback about the cycling of sustained-release T3 that you are doing for 's? > Has you temperature risen? > How many cycles have you done? > Any other interesting points? > > Thanks, > Dean If you want your temperatures to raise, try coconut oil, it's thermogenic. NOW makes it in capsules now for people who do not care for the taste, or you can just eat it by the tblspoon full and also cook with it. It made our little one's temps go up to normal for the first time. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: My blood pressure was 108/65 this morning. I am not sure what to make of that, since my bp goes up from lying to standing, which I think means my adrenals are doing okay. In recent months (since being on HC), my bp has been running 120/80 on good days. Taking T3 or taking too little HC can push it down. << Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: My blood pressure was 108/65 this morning. I am not sure what to make of that, since my bp goes up from lying to standing, which I think means my adrenals are doing okay. In recent months (since being on HC), my bp has been running 120/80 on good days. Taking T3 or taking too little HC can push it down. << Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: My blood pressure was 108/65 this morning. I am not sure what to make of that, since my bp goes up from lying to standing, which I think means my adrenals are doing okay. In recent months (since being on HC), my bp has been running 120/80 on good days. Taking T3 or taking too little HC can push it down. << Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > If you want your temperatures to raise, try coconut oil, it's thermogenic. NOW makes it in capsules now for people who do not care for the taste, or you can just eat it by the tblspoon full and also cook with it. > > It made our little one's temps go up to normal for the first time. I do eat it by the tablespoonful, and cook with it. Hasn't done much so far. Maybe I've just been hypothyroid for a longer time than she has. Thanks for the idea, though. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > If you want your temperatures to raise, try coconut oil, it's thermogenic. NOW makes it in capsules now for people who do not care for the taste, or you can just eat it by the tblspoon full and also cook with it. > > It made our little one's temps go up to normal for the first time. I do eat it by the tablespoonful, and cook with it. Hasn't done much so far. Maybe I've just been hypothyroid for a longer time than she has. Thanks for the idea, though. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: I do eat it by the tablespoonful, and cook with it. Hasn't done much so far. Maybe I've just been hypothyroid for a longer time than she has. Thanks for the idea, though. ===>Another thing that raised temps was methyl B12. We just gave the oral and both my dd and I noticed she was warmer. I thought we were imagining things until I read that methyl B12 can raise temps. I'm unsure of the mechanism, but there's no doubt it did raise her temps. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: I do eat it by the tablespoonful, and cook with it. Hasn't done much so far. Maybe I've just been hypothyroid for a longer time than she has. Thanks for the idea, though. ===>Another thing that raised temps was methyl B12. We just gave the oral and both my dd and I noticed she was warmer. I thought we were imagining things until I read that methyl B12 can raise temps. I'm unsure of the mechanism, but there's no doubt it did raise her temps. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: I do eat it by the tablespoonful, and cook with it. Hasn't done much so far. Maybe I've just been hypothyroid for a longer time than she has. Thanks for the idea, though. ===>Another thing that raised temps was methyl B12. We just gave the oral and both my dd and I noticed she was warmer. I thought we were imagining things until I read that methyl B12 can raise temps. I'm unsure of the mechanism, but there's no doubt it did raise her temps. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > > Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the > cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like > I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be > constantly managing them. > -- Thanks for the update , Are you weaning because you have gotten your temps up to 98.6? Or because you have not been feeling great. I can't remember, did you try Armour? The Natural Thyroid List state that all ones needs to do is increase Armour and the temps will rise. Of course it is not a permanent 'cure' like with the 's protocol. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > > Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the > cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like > I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be > constantly managing them. > -- Thanks for the update , Are you weaning because you have gotten your temps up to 98.6? Or because you have not been feeling great. I can't remember, did you try Armour? The Natural Thyroid List state that all ones needs to do is increase Armour and the temps will rise. Of course it is not a permanent 'cure' like with the 's protocol. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > > Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the > cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like > I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be > constantly managing them. > -- Thanks for the update , Are you weaning because you have gotten your temps up to 98.6? Or because you have not been feeling great. I can't remember, did you try Armour? The Natural Thyroid List state that all ones needs to do is increase Armour and the temps will rise. Of course it is not a permanent 'cure' like with the 's protocol. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > ===>Another thing that raised temps was methyl B12. We just gave the oral and both my dd and I noticed she was warmer. I thought we were imagining things until I read that methyl B12 can raise temps. I'm unsure of the mechanism, but there's no doubt it did raise her temps. > > Well, when I had B12 level checked a few months ago it was high, out of range. I never did track down what that was all about, but I'm not sure B12 would be appropriate since I'm not using it well? I have had low B12 in the past and had injections that helped me feel better, but not methyl form. I will keep this in mind if my B12 goes low again. Thanks. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: Well, when I had B12 level checked a few months ago it was high, out of range. I never did track down what that was all about, but I'm not sure B12 would be appropriate since I'm not using it well? I have had low B12 in the past and had injections that helped me feel better, but not methyl form. I will keep this in mind if my B12 goes low again. Thanks. ===>If your B12 is high, then it means that you have enough or a pathway is blocked preventing it's use. The methyl B12 is for neurological health. We just gave the oral and after a couple of weeks she got mean, pinched us, never did this before or after. I was glad we didn't give her the shots. I have to say about the temps, she has been on Armour for just a few weeks over a year. It took forever to get her temps up, about 7-8 months and I am assuming her's would be easier to correct at 5, than an adult's would. Although after we found her low temps and hypothyroidism, I started taking my temperatures and they weren't much better than hers. I started taking Thyroid-S and within 7-8 months again, my temps are now normal. But then my hair tests do not show mercury problems. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > > > > > Oh - I have stuck with 82.5 mcg today. I think I will just wean the > > cycle starting tomorrow. I just don't feel very good and I feel like > > I'm teetering on the edge of symptoms all the time and have to be > > constantly managing them. > > -- > > Thanks for the update , > Are you weaning because you have gotten your temps up to 98.6? > Or because you have not been feeling great. Because I am not feeling great. It's a bit up and down, actually, but I think it's best to wean this cycle and try to monitor things more closely on the next cycle. Also last night I fell asleep without taking my night dose. Darn! Can't believe I did that. So that may throw me into a period of unsteadiness. Best to cut my losses now. > I can't remember, did you try Armour? No. > The Natural Thyroid List state that all ones needs to do is increase Armour > and the temps will rise. Well, it seems to me T3 should also raise the temperature. I have had low temps for a very long time. I will not be surprised if it takes another cycle or two. And of course maybe it won't work, but I'm not ready to give up on this yet. > Of course it is not a permanent 'cure' like with the 's protocol. 's may not be permanent either. The case studies indicate some people were knocked into the the low temp syndrome again due to stressful events, but doing the protocol again fixed the problem. The way I look at it, if a person can try s protocol first, s/he may be able to eliminate the need for long-term thyroid supplementation (with Armour or whatever). And it's just a cool idea Did you go to the doctor you found who prescribes SR T3? -- > Dean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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