Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > Well my dentist's partner who practices Kinesiology, 'tested' it on me > - I held a big jar of it in my outstretched hand. Apparently it was > fine for me, but I think I would prefer to follow the scientific > reasoning given by Andy, to a few seconds of muscle testing. There's > too much at stake here! BTW, there was a post I read somewhere (maybe > the adult-metal-chelation group), where the person tested fine for > Chlorella and then developed a very bad reaction to it down the road > (no idea, how long it was taken and in what dosage). > I believe that muscle testing can be a useful thing, but it only tells you if your body reacts okay to the substance itself, not whether your body will be okay with the downstream effects of that substance once it is in your body. For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the mercury causes in the body. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > Well my dentist's partner who practices Kinesiology, 'tested' it on me > - I held a big jar of it in my outstretched hand. Apparently it was > fine for me, but I think I would prefer to follow the scientific > reasoning given by Andy, to a few seconds of muscle testing. There's > too much at stake here! BTW, there was a post I read somewhere (maybe > the adult-metal-chelation group), where the person tested fine for > Chlorella and then developed a very bad reaction to it down the road > (no idea, how long it was taken and in what dosage). > I believe that muscle testing can be a useful thing, but it only tells you if your body reacts okay to the substance itself, not whether your body will be okay with the downstream effects of that substance once it is in your body. For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the mercury causes in the body. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > Well my dentist's partner who practices Kinesiology, 'tested' it on me > - I held a big jar of it in my outstretched hand. Apparently it was > fine for me, but I think I would prefer to follow the scientific > reasoning given by Andy, to a few seconds of muscle testing. There's > too much at stake here! BTW, there was a post I read somewhere (maybe > the adult-metal-chelation group), where the person tested fine for > Chlorella and then developed a very bad reaction to it down the road > (no idea, how long it was taken and in what dosage). > I believe that muscle testing can be a useful thing, but it only tells you if your body reacts okay to the substance itself, not whether your body will be okay with the downstream effects of that substance once it is in your body. For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the mercury causes in the body. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > > For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment > with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. > If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes > you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in > response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the > mercury causes in the body. > > -- > Interesting, for I was also tested for mercury and I was told it was not affecting my body and that there was not any in my brain!! Well, I have been having short term memory problems since a couple of months. Also I had a nasty time with post amalgam removal - maybe because 3 were removed nd also Ireacted to material used for provisionals. Puzzled what to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > > For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment > with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. > If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes > you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in > response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the > mercury causes in the body. > > -- > Interesting, for I was also tested for mercury and I was told it was not affecting my body and that there was not any in my brain!! Well, I have been having short term memory problems since a couple of months. Also I had a nasty time with post amalgam removal - maybe because 3 were removed nd also Ireacted to material used for provisionals. Puzzled what to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 > > > For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment > with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. > If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes > you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in > response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the > mercury causes in the body. > > -- > Interesting, for I was also tested for mercury and I was told it was not affecting my body and that there was not any in my brain!! Well, I have been having short term memory problems since a couple of months. Also I had a nasty time with post amalgam removal - maybe because 3 were removed nd also Ireacted to material used for provisionals. Puzzled what to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I reckon NAET Bioset AAE etc only work permanently once the original cause of the imbalance is removed. ( " Allergies " of emotional origin may be a different story.) Before that it is only a temporary measure for symptom control as whatever is causing the imbalance will put the body out again. I had six months of twice weekly NAET, none of any treatments held permanently and when I went to the AAE office in Brisbane I questioned the clinician about what effect dodgy gut flora balance would have on the treatment success. They say that they are resetting the immune system; gut flora play a big part in the immune system and metals totally screw with the gut environment, creating an imbalance in the ecology there. He left the room to confer with colleague/s and returned to say that it wouldn't work on someone with a dysbiotic gut and I was to return when my gut was under control.I think that for me, this will only happen when the metal are gone. Something to ponder.... Kind Regards, Kelle > > For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment > > with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. > > If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes > > you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in > > response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the > > mercury causes in the body. > > > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I reckon NAET Bioset AAE etc only work permanently once the original cause of the imbalance is removed. ( " Allergies " of emotional origin may be a different story.) Before that it is only a temporary measure for symptom control as whatever is causing the imbalance will put the body out again. I had six months of twice weekly NAET, none of any treatments held permanently and when I went to the AAE office in Brisbane I questioned the clinician about what effect dodgy gut flora balance would have on the treatment success. They say that they are resetting the immune system; gut flora play a big part in the immune system and metals totally screw with the gut environment, creating an imbalance in the ecology there. He left the room to confer with colleague/s and returned to say that it wouldn't work on someone with a dysbiotic gut and I was to return when my gut was under control.I think that for me, this will only happen when the metal are gone. Something to ponder.... Kind Regards, Kelle > > For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment > > with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. > > If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes > > you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in > > response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the > > mercury causes in the body. > > > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > I believe that muscle testing can be a useful thing, but it only > tells you if your body reacts okay to the substance itself, not > whether your body will be okay with the downstream effects of that > substance once it is in your body. > -- I have been struggling to understand why muscle testing works so well for some things and is off the mark for others, and that is very well put . I believe that is very much down to the skill and education of the mucsle tester. If the muscle tester is not familiar, or " does not believe " in a certain issue, the results get a little vague. for example, one person told me to take probiotics, two weeks later a different muscle tester totally dismissed probiotics saying i did not need them and that no one really needs them,(he didn't believe). ummmm? I am a firm believer in muscle testing as it has helped me big time to understand what my body is weak to, but it's important to remember it is purely a tool to aid understand and it cannot test for reactions to the effects of certain substances, as stephanie put so well above. Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > I believe that muscle testing can be a useful thing, but it only > tells you if your body reacts okay to the substance itself, not > whether your body will be okay with the downstream effects of that > substance once it is in your body. > -- I have been struggling to understand why muscle testing works so well for some things and is off the mark for others, and that is very well put . I believe that is very much down to the skill and education of the mucsle tester. If the muscle tester is not familiar, or " does not believe " in a certain issue, the results get a little vague. for example, one person told me to take probiotics, two weeks later a different muscle tester totally dismissed probiotics saying i did not need them and that no one really needs them,(he didn't believe). ummmm? I am a firm believer in muscle testing as it has helped me big time to understand what my body is weak to, but it's important to remember it is purely a tool to aid understand and it cannot test for reactions to the effects of certain substances, as stephanie put so well above. Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > I believe that muscle testing can be a useful thing, but it only > tells you if your body reacts okay to the substance itself, not > whether your body will be okay with the downstream effects of that > substance once it is in your body. > -- I have been struggling to understand why muscle testing works so well for some things and is off the mark for others, and that is very well put . I believe that is very much down to the skill and education of the mucsle tester. If the muscle tester is not familiar, or " does not believe " in a certain issue, the results get a little vague. for example, one person told me to take probiotics, two weeks later a different muscle tester totally dismissed probiotics saying i did not need them and that no one really needs them,(he didn't believe). ummmm? I am a firm believer in muscle testing as it has helped me big time to understand what my body is weak to, but it's important to remember it is purely a tool to aid understand and it cannot test for reactions to the effects of certain substances, as stephanie put so well above. Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > > > > > > > > For example, you can get muscle testing (and subsequent treatment > > with NAET or Bioset or the like) for mercury or other heavy metals. > > If you are strong to it (or if you get NAET treatment that makes > > you strong to it), this might reduce your immediate symptoms in > > response to mercury, but it will not diminish the damage that the > > mercury causes in the body. > > > > -- > > > Interesting, for I was also tested for mercury and I was told it was > not affecting my body and that there was not any in my brain!! Well, I Personally, I do not believe that muscle testing can tell you whether there is mercury in your body and/or brain. I would have to see some compelling evidence to believe that. > have been having short term memory problems since a couple of months. > Also I had a nasty time with post amalgam removal - maybe because 3 > were removed nd also Ireacted to material used for provisionals. > Puzzled what to believe. I did not believe in NAET or muscle testing before I experienced it. It was recommended to me by someone and I tried it mostly with the idea of proving that it didn't work. It did work, though. It was undeniable in the beginning that something was happening, and over time I did get relief of a lot of symptoms. Might be something you have to experience to believe. Some people report that it doesn't work for them or that the treatments don't " hold " . I have heard it is important to work with someone who is very experienced. Andy recommends having NAET done with needles. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 > > I reckon NAET Bioset AAE etc only work permanently once the original > cause of the imbalance is removed. ( " Allergies " of emotional origin > may be a different story.) Before that it is only a temporary measure > for symptom control as whatever is causing the imbalance will put the > body out again. I had six months of twice weekly NAET, none of any > treatments held permanently and when I went to the AAE office in > Brisbane I questioned the clinician about what effect dodgy gut flora > balance would have on the treatment success. They say that they are > resetting the immune system; gut flora play a big part in the immune > system and metals totally screw with the gut environment, creating an > imbalance in the ecology there. He left the room to confer with > colleague/s and returned to say that it wouldn't work on someone with > a dysbiotic gut and I was to return when my gut was under control.I > think that for me, this will only happen when the metal are gone. > Something to ponder.... > Kind Regards, > Kelle I had NAET treatments for foods to which I had tested allergic via mainstream allergy testing. The treatments did help. I still have to be careful about the amount I eat of some foods (particularly dairy, some nuts), and I still can't eat things that stir up dysbiosis. I used to cough all the time, had a lot of phlegm, itchy throat, itchy mouth, sores and irritations in my mouth. The only thing I get much now is sometimes some irritation in my mouth, but even this is much reduced from what it used to be. I don't know how NAET really works, but the story they tell is that it trains your body to clear blockages related to a particular substance. So the idea seems to be that even if you do get blocked, your body learns how to clear the blockage. Andy says it is important to be treated by someone who uses needles to close the procedure. I actually have had treatments hold without needles, but I am currently doing treatments with needles. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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