Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Thanks again , I'm actually feeling a lot better today, I ate some wheat last week plus some sugar too which was a bad idea, but I'm pretty sensitive to wheat and it can knock me back for a week or two but I feel well enough now to get back to doing some more chelation. I forgot I have a high cal/pot ratio according to past hair tests so I'm the opposite to you and have a slow metabolism though I think that has improved a bit. It must be nice to be able to have coffee again, I would enjoy that too :-) That's good you feel ok on the h/c now, it sounds like you've got past that initial overreaction stage and your body has adjusted so good luck with increasing the dose. Cheers, Anne > > > Thanks for replying. I'm not totally sure but I think that might well > > be the case with me too, I have responded quite quickly to all the > > hormones I've tried at lowish doses so what you say could explain > > it. I think this is being upregulated? I know Andy mentions this in > > AI as a result of mercury's effect on the dopamine receptor and the > > body's way of compensating and you can go either way, down or up but > > would make sense re long-standing deficiencies. I also dont seem to > > do well if I take large doses of supplements, it just always feels > > like too much, I d taking smaller doses frequently. > > > He says upregulated people need large amounts, but they have to > start low and go slow. They also tend to get allergic to everything. > This sounds like me. I have a " weak " allergic response, but it does > seem like I am sensitive to lots of stuff. > > Downregulated people can take large quantities of supplements, > but have to taper off slowly. > > > > > My main problem though was when I weaned off, I went through a really > > hard time, my adrenals just seemed to pack up, I could hardly walk > > and because of this I can only assume some suppression of my HPA axis > > had occurred as my body really struggled to cope with the withdrawal. > > And since then I've suffered more severe low cortisol symptoms > > compared to how I was before I ever took h/c. In fact I feel like Ive > > come down with an infection the last few days, I've been feeling like > > I've been run over by a truck and it definitely feels like my > > cortisol has dropped again so might have to increase my dose now. > > > Well, it sounds like you may need something, whether for adrenals > or something else, I can't really tell. > > > > > > I guess you could also be a very fast metabolizer and need to > > > dose more often? Just a guess. > > > > I think I'm a slow metabolizer due to being hypothyroid but frequent > > lower doses might be worth trying yes. > > > I'm hypothyroid, but I'm a fast metabolizer by Ca/P on hair test. > I need to dose chelators frequently, I need to eat frequently and > I need a lot of fat in my diet, now that I tolerate caffeine again, > I seem to crave it often... > > > > > > I used 3 g per day of ashwagandha. From what I read, this is the > > > low end of the therapeutic dose range, but people on various yahoo > > > groups seem to think it is a lot. > > > > It does sound a lot though I didn't know you could take much higher > > doses therapeutically thats interesting, I might experiment with a > > higher dose to see what effect it has. The most I've ever taken is a > > 1200mg mix of standard root extract and powder. > > > I think what I read was 3-6g for therapeutic effect. 3g is what the > ND recommended and I remember checking it out and being convinced > that was a reasonable dose to try. I actually worked that up fairly > slowly, as I was nervous about it, but never had any problems like > with h/c. (BTW, the h/c problems are gone now. Think I might try > a whole 5 mg.) > > One thing I like about ashwagandha is it can be of some help > for hypothyroid, too. And it improves immune function and calms > anxiety. It also helps to prevent excess adrenal stimulation, > I think similar to seriphos. > > > > > I wonder if you have a very reactive stress response at the > > > level of the pituitary, which exhausts your body by trying to > > > push your adrenals to produce lots of cortisol when they can't > > > keep up. By telling the pituitary to quit asking for so much > > > cortisol (which is my understanding of what phos serine does), > > > this actually gives you more energy, because your adrenals are > > > not being forced to work so hard. I'm sure I've heard this > > > explanation somewhere, but can't remember where. > > > > I found that on Dr Lowe's site so presumably thats where you read it > > too. Yes I guess it is the effect on the pituitary or on the > > hypothalamus and downregulating or blocking cortisol as taking it > > made me feel like a load had been lifted off my adrenals and I had > > much more energy and stamina and felt much calmer. > > > Sounds like seriphos is a good supplement for you if it is having > this effect. I have had benefits from it at times, and problems > with it at other times. Not real certain what that was about. > > > > > Yes I would imagine you would have noticed some difference if you > > were deficient even if you took a low dose. I noticed from another > > post you take kelp so it might be that you dont need the extra iodine > > anyway. Where do you source your kelp from, do you know if its > > screened for heavy metals? > > > Hm - no, I didn't look into that, but of course it's a reasonable > concern. I'm using NOW brand. > > > > I've tried Iodoral and Lugols and > > definitely noticed quite a few benefits mentally and physically but I > > am hypothyroid so I know for sure that I'm lacking in Iodine and I > > feel better eating seaweed too. If you are interested in learning > > more about Iodine there is a really good yahoo Iodine group and it > > has a sister website you might want to check out.. > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/?yguid=157652497 > > > > http://iodine4health.com/ > > > > Thanks, I'll put that on my list of stuff to check out. > > Hope you get to feeling better soon. Maybe at the moment the > most important thing is to support immune function to fight off > the infection. I imagine either h/c or ashwagandha, or some > other herbal agent might be a good idea. > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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