Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I don't know how the color thing works. I started coloring at 18. My Mother had beautiful silver too. My daughters have some but my son has had silver since he was about 30. My sister is salt and pepperand two years older than me.. Thank heavens for L'oreal. My Dad had salt & pepper also. I am really white under this color. I'm to pale to leave it white. When I was younger I had Auburn and LOVED it. Didn't have this road map on my face either.. It's been a good trip. LOL Love and Prayers, Peggy   IPF  2004,  Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back,  Faith looks up." Peggy,What I don't understand, is why my hair is silver and my mom's is still salt and pepper....All my sisters and brothers still have their nice dark locks and 3 of them are now over 50! (no, they don't color). What's up with that?Roxanne, 58, South Carolina2006 Asthma/ PF2008 IPF/ Sarcoidosis/GerdLady Slipper Orchid> > >> > > > From: Bruce Moreland> <brucemoreland (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > <mailto:brucemoreland%40gmail.com>>> > > > Subject: Re: Whom to> tell--when> > > > To: Breathe-Support > > > <mailto:Breathe-Support%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 12:11 PM> > > > Roxanne> > > >> > > > Mother is a difficult one. Do you have kids> > yourself?> > > > Sounds like your> > > > mother has a lot of physical problems but> still> > mentally> > > > doing fine. If> > > > so, while not worrying her is one side of> it, let> > me just> > > > offer, not> > > > pushing, the other. I can bet she feels> somewhat> > useless at> > > > this point> > > > in her life. She can't do the things> she once> > did that> > > > she felt made her> > > > a benefit to others and society. Many of us> here> > feel that> > > > way> > > > sometimes. At her age, most everyone has> some of> > those> > > > thoughts. My> > > > ex-wife's father worked to the age of> 79 and> > when he> > > > had to stop he felt> > > > that a lot. Fortunately told him> that he> > still had> > > > one most> > > > important thing of value to do and that was> be> > her father.> > > > With him in> > > > his 80's, having had two hip and two> knee> > replacements,> > > > she would still> > > > get in his lap. But she didn't just> share> > good things.> > > > She shared> > > > problems at work or with friends and sought> his> > advice. He> > > > always was a> > > > calming effect on her. So, think about what> it> > means to> > > > your mother to> > > > still "mother" you. That includes> it> > all. Might> > > > just take her mind a bit> > > > more off herself. She might even have good> > support advice> > > > from her> > > > experiences. If explained clearly she'd> know> > your> > > > disease is much> > > > different from hers and not think it was> her> > fault. I> > > > don't know if she> > > > has close friends or doctors you might> discuss it> > with and> > > > get opinions> > > > from. I don't know a mother or father> in the> > world who> > > > wouldn't want to> > > > know. Yes, you have rights to your privacy> if you> > like.> > > > But, doesn't she> > > > have rights as a mother too? I know> sometimes we> > start> > > > thinking of one> > > > as an 85 year old cancer survivor with> health> > problems,> > > > instead of as> > > > our mother, our advisor, our supporter.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi all,> > > > >> > > > > I'd like to weigh in on this> discussion> > too. I> > > > know we all have> > > > preferences and reasons for doing it> however we> > choose.> > > > I've gotten> > > > valuable information from you all regarding> this> > issue but> > > > I still have> > > > a huge dilemma which I am facing and> don't> > know how to> > > > handle it.> > > > >> > > > > I've told my 4 sisters, 2 brothers> and 2> > oldest> > > > nieces (who are grown> > > > and married). They are all sent updates> each time> > I visit> > > > doctors and> > > > have tests. I've told the 3 people at> work> > with whom I> > > > work the closest.> > > > My boss knows more than the other 2, but> even she> > > > doesn't know all the> > > > details. It helps to have their support at> work> > due to time> > > > off for drs> > > > appts etc.> > > > >> > > > > My dilemma is my mother. She's 85> years> > and not in> > > > the best health> > > > herself. She is a cancer survivor and 20> year> > sufferer of> > > > COPD and> > > > chronic bronchitis. I have told her that I> have> > Sarcoid and> > > > that it is> > > > an inflammation which is causing all the> > coughing. I am> > > > scared to tell> > > > her any more for fear she will feel> it's her> > fault and> > > > worry too much> > > > which could lead to further declining> health for> > her.> > > > >> > > > > My sisters are split on this issue,> the 2> > oldest> > > > don't agree with me> > > > and the 2 youngest do. My feeling is that> as I> > continue to> > > > decline, I> > > > may have no choice, but for right now I> don't> > want to> > > > worry her> > > > needlessly.> > > > >> > > > > Roxanne, 58, South Carolina> > > > > 2006 Asthma/ PF> > > > > 2008 IPF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd> > > > > Lady Slipper Orchid> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >No virus found in this incoming message.> > >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> > >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1615 -> > Release Date: 8/16/2008 7:11 AM> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Yeah, I started graying early and coloring too. Coincidentally, my color of choice for many many years was auburn! Then one day about 5 or 6 years ago I decided to cut my hair really short and the silver became prominent, so I quit coloring. It took some getting used to, but I really like it now. No muss, no fuss.. Roxanne, 58, South Carolina 2006 Asthma/ PF 2008 IPF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd Lady Slipper Orchid > > > > > > > > > From: Bruce Moreland > > <brucemoreland@... > > > > > <mailto:brucemoreland%40gmail.com>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Whom to > > tell--when > > > > > To: Breathe-Support > > > > > <mailto:Breathe-Support%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 12:11 > PM > > > > > Roxanne > > > > > > > > > > Mother is a difficult one. Do you have > kids > > > yourself? > > > > > Sounds like your > > > > > mother has a lot of physical problems > but > > still > > > mentally > > > > > doing fine. If > > > > > so, while not worrying her is one side > of > > it, let > > > me just > > > > > offer, not > > > > > pushing, the other. I can bet she > feels > > somewhat > > > useless at > > > > > this point > > > > > in her life. She can't do the > things > > she once > > > did that > > > > > she felt made her > > > > > a benefit to others and society. Many > of us > > here > > > feel that > > > > > way > > > > > sometimes. At her age, most everyone > has > > some of > > > those > > > > > thoughts. My > > > > > ex-wife's father worked to the age > of > > 79 and > > > when he > > > > > had to stop he felt > > > > > that a lot. Fortunately told > him > > that he > > > still had > > > > > one most > > > > > important thing of value to do and > that was > > be > > > her father. > > > > > With him in > > > > > his 80's, having had two hip and > two > > knee > > > replacements, > > > > > she would still > > > > > get in his lap. But she didn't > just > > share > > > good things. > > > > > She shared > > > > > problems at work or with friends and > sought > > his > > > advice. He > > > > > always was a > > > > > calming effect on her. So, think about > what > > it > > > means to > > > > > your mother to > > > > > still " mother " you. That > includes > > it > > > all. Might > > > > > just take her mind a bit > > > > > more off herself. She might even have > good > > > support advice > > > > > from her > > > > > experiences. If explained clearly > she'd > > know > > > your > > > > > disease is much > > > > > different from hers and not think it > was > > her > > > fault. I > > > > > don't know if she > > > > > has close friends or doctors you might > > discuss it > > > with and > > > > > get opinions > > > > > from. I don't know a mother or > father > > in the > > > world who > > > > > wouldn't want to > > > > > know. Yes, you have rights to your > privacy > > if you > > > like. > > > > > But, doesn't she > > > > > have rights as a mother too? I know > > sometimes we > > > start > > > > > thinking of one > > > > > as an 85 year old cancer survivor with > > health > > > problems, > > > > > instead of as > > > > > our mother, our advisor, our > supporter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to weigh in on this > > discussion > > > too. I > > > > > know we all have > > > > > preferences and reasons for doing it > > however we > > > choose. > > > > > I've gotten > > > > > valuable information from you all > regarding > > this > > > issue but > > > > > I still have > > > > > a huge dilemma which I am facing and > > don't > > > know how to > > > > > handle it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've told my 4 sisters, 2 > brothers > > and 2 > > > oldest > > > > > nieces (who are grown > > > > > and married). They are all sent > updates > > each time > > > I visit > > > > > doctors and > > > > > have tests. I've told the 3 people > at > > work > > > with whom I > > > > > work the closest. > > > > > My boss knows more than the other 2, > but > > even she > > > > > doesn't know all the > > > > > details. It helps to have their > support at > > work > > > due to time > > > > > off for drs > > > > > appts etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > My dilemma is my mother. > She's 85 > > years > > > and not in > > > > > the best health > > > > > herself. She is a cancer survivor and > 20 > > year > > > sufferer of > > > > > COPD and > > > > > chronic bronchitis. I have told her > that I > > have > > > Sarcoid and > > > > > that it is > > > > > an inflammation which is causing all > the > > > coughing. I am > > > > > scared to tell > > > > > her any more for fear she will feel > > it's her > > > fault and > > > > > worry too much > > > > > which could lead to further declining > > health for > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > > My sisters are split on this > issue, > > the 2 > > > oldest > > > > > don't agree with me > > > > > and the 2 youngest do. My feeling is > that > > as I > > > continue to > > > > > decline, I > > > > > may have no choice, but for right now > I > > don't > > > want to > > > > > worry her > > > > > needlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roxanne, 58, South Carolina > > > > > > 2006 Asthma/ PF > > > > > > 2008 IPF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd > > > > > > Lady Slipper Orchid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.4/1615 - > > > Release Date: 8/16/2008 7:11 AM > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Yeah, I started graying early and coloring too. Coincidentally, my color of choice for many many years was auburn! Then one day about 5 or 6 years ago I decided to cut my hair really short and the silver became prominent, so I quit coloring. It took some getting used to, but I really like it now. No muss, no fuss.. Roxanne, 58, South Carolina 2006 Asthma/ PF 2008 IPF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd Lady Slipper Orchid > > > > > > > > > From: Bruce Moreland > > <brucemoreland@... > > > > > <mailto:brucemoreland%40gmail.com>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Whom to > > tell--when > > > > > To: Breathe-Support > > > > > <mailto:Breathe-Support%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 12:11 > PM > > > > > Roxanne > > > > > > > > > > Mother is a difficult one. Do you have > kids > > > yourself? > > > > > Sounds like your > > > > > mother has a lot of physical problems > but > > still > > > mentally > > > > > doing fine. If > > > > > so, while not worrying her is one side > of > > it, let > > > me just > > > > > offer, not > > > > > pushing, the other. I can bet she > feels > > somewhat > > > useless at > > > > > this point > > > > > in her life. She can't do the > things > > she once > > > did that > > > > > she felt made her > > > > > a benefit to others and society. Many > of us > > here > > > feel that > > > > > way > > > > > sometimes. At her age, most everyone > has > > some of > > > those > > > > > thoughts. My > > > > > ex-wife's father worked to the age > of > > 79 and > > > when he > > > > > had to stop he felt > > > > > that a lot. Fortunately told > him > > that he > > > still had > > > > > one most > > > > > important thing of value to do and > that was > > be > > > her father. > > > > > With him in > > > > > his 80's, having had two hip and > two > > knee > > > replacements, > > > > > she would still > > > > > get in his lap. But she didn't > just > > share > > > good things. > > > > > She shared > > > > > problems at work or with friends and > sought > > his > > > advice. He > > > > > always was a > > > > > calming effect on her. So, think about > what > > it > > > means to > > > > > your mother to > > > > > still " mother " you. That > includes > > it > > > all. Might > > > > > just take her mind a bit > > > > > more off herself. She might even have > good > > > support advice > > > > > from her > > > > > experiences. If explained clearly > she'd > > know > > > your > > > > > disease is much > > > > > different from hers and not think it > was > > her > > > fault. I > > > > > don't know if she > > > > > has close friends or doctors you might > > discuss it > > > with and > > > > > get opinions > > > > > from. I don't know a mother or > father > > in the > > > world who > > > > > wouldn't want to > > > > > know. Yes, you have rights to your > privacy > > if you > > > like. > > > > > But, doesn't she > > > > > have rights as a mother too? I know > > sometimes we > > > start > > > > > thinking of one > > > > > as an 85 year old cancer survivor with > > health > > > problems, > > > > > instead of as > > > > > our mother, our advisor, our > supporter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to weigh in on this > > discussion > > > too. I > > > > > know we all have > > > > > preferences and reasons for doing it > > however we > > > choose. > > > > > I've gotten > > > > > valuable information from you all > regarding > > this > > > issue but > > > > > I still have > > > > > a huge dilemma which I am facing and > > don't > > > know how to > > > > > handle it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've told my 4 sisters, 2 > brothers > > and 2 > > > oldest > > > > > nieces (who are grown > > > > > and married). They are all sent > updates > > each time > > > I visit > > > > > doctors and > > > > > have tests. I've told the 3 people > at > > work > > > with whom I > > > > > work the closest. > > > > > My boss knows more than the other 2, > but > > even she > > > > > doesn't know all the > > > > > details. It helps to have their > support at > > work > > > due to time > > > > > off for drs > > > > > appts etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > My dilemma is my mother. > She's 85 > > years > > > and not in > > > > > the best health > > > > > herself. She is a cancer survivor and > 20 > > year > > > sufferer of > > > > > COPD and > > > > > chronic bronchitis. I have told her > that I > > have > > > Sarcoid and > > > > > that it is > > > > > an inflammation which is causing all > the > > > coughing. I am > > > > > scared to tell > > > > > her any more for fear she will feel > > it's her > > > fault and > > > > > worry too much > > > > > which could lead to further declining > > health for > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > > My sisters are split on this > issue, > > the 2 > > > oldest > > > > > don't agree with me > > > > > and the 2 youngest do. My feeling is > that > > as I > > > continue to > > > > > decline, I > > > > > may have no choice, but for right now > I > > don't > > > want to > > > > > worry her > > > > > needlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roxanne, 58, South Carolina > > > > > > 2006 Asthma/ PF > > > > > > 2008 IPF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd > > > > > > Lady Slipper Orchid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.4/1615 - > > > Release Date: 8/16/2008 7:11 AM > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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