Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs  Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs  Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs  Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 It could well be trigeminal neuralgia. It can effect the eye, the sinus area (maxillary) and mandibular area--teeth/gums, near the ear. You should see your neuro as soon as you can and have him prescribe something, like neurontin (gabapentin), trileptal, lamictal, or something else. My pain didn't go away with brain surgery (microvascular decompression), or 2 gamma knife procedures--although the 2nd one helped some, but I still need neurontin and lamictal.Best wishes on this, Donna. I know the pain that TN can cause, and it can be quite bad at times. Don't 'mess around' with it.love ya,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 3:48:34 PMSubject: Re: LDN....Re: … Please refresh my memory Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 It could well be trigeminal neuralgia. It can effect the eye, the sinus area (maxillary) and mandibular area--teeth/gums, near the ear. You should see your neuro as soon as you can and have him prescribe something, like neurontin (gabapentin), trileptal, lamictal, or something else. My pain didn't go away with brain surgery (microvascular decompression), or 2 gamma knife procedures--although the 2nd one helped some, but I still need neurontin and lamictal.Best wishes on this, Donna. I know the pain that TN can cause, and it can be quite bad at times. Don't 'mess around' with it.love ya,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 3:48:34 PMSubject: Re: LDN....Re: … Please refresh my memory Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 It could well be trigeminal neuralgia. It can effect the eye, the sinus area (maxillary) and mandibular area--teeth/gums, near the ear. You should see your neuro as soon as you can and have him prescribe something, like neurontin (gabapentin), trileptal, lamictal, or something else. My pain didn't go away with brain surgery (microvascular decompression), or 2 gamma knife procedures--although the 2nd one helped some, but I still need neurontin and lamictal.Best wishes on this, Donna. I know the pain that TN can cause, and it can be quite bad at times. Don't 'mess around' with it.love ya,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 3:48:34 PMSubject: Re: LDN....Re: … Please refresh my memory Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Thanks Kate, I've been wondering if it is TN.. but I do know there are teeth in there that HAVE to come out.. I know that the top right "eye" tooth supposedly has an abscess.. Dentist did show me the x-ray.. I couldn't quite make out the abscess though... My neurologist did write a letter to my primary insurance company explaining that it IS a medical necessity that these teeth come out (and with the MS, any infection or abscess in a tooth.. well could cause a flare, and I'm hoping that the insurance company will agree with the neuro & me, that we don't want no stinkin' flares) I'll probably be heading for the Emergency Room tonight -- later so they aren't so busy, if I can hold out that long -- Going to set somebody up for a "House" experience... I'll be hitting the ER of the hospital where not only my neurologist (and his group) reside, but the dental school residents as well... Let them figure out what's going on, so long as they get the pain to stop.. I'm already taking 900mg of Gabapentin per day, and another 1,500mg of Keppra.. Gabapentin for the nerve pain (burning & great toe playing "reach for the stars").. Keppra for another type of spasm or nerve pain.. keeps the muscle from trying to separate from the shin bone (which is what it felt like, and actually looked like to some extent.. could run a finger down the little gulley between shin & muscle when they started).. Guess time will tell on what's going on.. but I'll keep ya'll posted.. Just crossing my fingers that if I make this trip tonight, they don't decide they have to keep me.. don't wanna spend the holiday in the hospital.. nor 's "weekend" off.. (he usually doesn't get Saturdays off, unless by special request, and definitely not when the boss isn't the one on call.. but he is this weekend.. YAY ME!!! LOL).. HUGS |)onna It could well be trigeminal neuralgia. It can effect the eye, the sinus area (maxillary) and mandibular area--teeth/gums, near the ear. You should see your neuro as soon as you can and have him prescribe something, like neurontin (gabapentin), trileptal, lamictal, or something else. My pain didn't go away with brain surgery (microvascular decompression), or 2 gamma knife procedures--although the 2nd one helped some, but I still need neurontin and lamictal. Best wishes on this, Donna. I know the pain that TN can cause, and it can be quite bad at times. Don't 'mess around' with it. love ya, Kate From: |)onna To: MSersLife Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 3:48:34 PM Subject: Re: LDN....Re: … Please refresh my memory  Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs  Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Donna you are in my prayers. Hugs nne To the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world " " May the Lord Bless you and keep you, May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever " Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancer http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancer Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com The Cancer Club www.cancerclub.com > * Re: LDN....Re: … Please refresh my memory >> >> Sharon, >> >> I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile >> (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I >> am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you >> said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance >> company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. >> When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from >> Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) >> recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. >> Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something >> prescribed " off-label " and have it approved easily. >> >> And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for >> pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I >> wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription >> for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular >> migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... >> >> Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having >> migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's >> holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. >> IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. >> >> I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty >> sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the >> day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be >> here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like >> I've got an earache.. >> >> That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? >> >> HUGS >> |)onna >> >> >> >> >>> My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem >>> with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think >>> if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN >>> then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) >>> >>> You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each >>> other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and >>> drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I >>> remember;) >>> >>> hugs >>> Sharon >>> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in >>> spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and >>> in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Thank You nne, They are very much appreciated HUGS |)onna Donna you are in my prayers. Hugs nne To the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the world" "May the Lord Bless you and keep you, May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever" Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/ Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancer http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancer Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com The Cancer Club www.cancerclub.com * Re: LDN....Re: … Please refresh my memory Sharon, I'm ta betting... since I haven't checked into LDN for quite awhile (probably should have kept my fingers still on that question).. but I am ta thinking that more and more doctors are recognizing, as you said, LDN and it's benefits. Pretty much like my primary insurance company doing an authorization for my Provigil from no until 2099. When I mentioned my surprise on that to my health care manager from Highmark, she said, it was done that way because they (Highmark) recognize (now) the actual benefit of that drug for people with MS. Whereas, before now, it was an uphill struggle to have something prescribed "off-label" and have it approved easily. And on the second point, Butalbital (Esgic) wouldn't be any good for pain either, and would cancel out the LDN... Then I guess that I wouldn't be able to switch to LDN either, because of the prescription for the ocular migraines (that I still don't understand.. the ocular migraines, not the prescription.. LOL)... Oh good grief.. wonder if I'm going to be told that I'm having migraines in my teeth now?? Looks as if I'm might be ruining someone's holiday weekend, and confusing a bunch of doctors in the ER as well.. IF the pain starts up again tonight in my jaw.. I hate having to head for the ER.. for a toothache... but I'm pretty sure that a toothache stays a toothache and doesn't go away during the day, only to come back at night, but not every night.. or might be here during the day, but not at night.. and right now, I feel like I've got an earache.. That's Trigeminal Neuralgia, isn't it? HUGS |)onna My well respected neurologist precribed LDN for me and had no problem with it. I know Dan gets LDN from the neurologist at UCSF. I think if the University of California at San Francisco is prescribing LDN then other neuros should take another look at it too. My opinion:) You can't be on narcotics when on LDN because they act against each other. Naltrexone was originally used in treatment of alcoholism and drug abuse to mute their effects. At least that's what I think I remember;) hugs Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. ____________________________________________________________ Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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