Re: Feel better on ALA 100mg then off? Cysteine low?

[Guest guest]

Yes, people who have low plasma cysteine often feel better on ALA.

ALA is also a powerful antioxidant - I wonder if that helps make you

feel better too.

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> I am one of those wierd people that feels great on ALA 100mg every 3

> hours. It takes a while but normally by the 2 or so day I feel

> pretty good till I stop the round then I get redistribution symptoms.

> Does this suggest that I might be low in cysteine or gluthione? I

> do have gilberts syndrome which is problem with bile conjugcation. I

> was thinking of trying NAC for this reason. What does feeling better

> on ALA mean? (also I take ALOT of it compared to most on here)

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Doesn't Cutler suggest stopping the ALA a day before the DMSA to make sure the

Hg gets escorted out of the body?

RO

Feel better on ALA 100mg then off? Cysteine

low?

I am one of those wierd people that feels great on ALA 100mg every 3

hours. It takes a while but normally by the 2 or so day I feel

pretty good till I stop the round then I get redistribution symptoms.

Does this suggest that I might be low in cysteine or gluthione? I

do have gilberts syndrome which is problem with bile conjugcation. I

was thinking of trying NAC for this reason. What does feeling better

on ALA mean? (also I take ALOT of it compared to most on here)

Thanks

[Guest guest]

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> Yes, people who have low plasma cysteine often feel better on ALA.

> ALA is also a powerful antioxidant - I wonder if that helps make you

> feel better too.

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You think its safe to try NAC? I am a little scared to tell you the

truth. However, all this makes me wonder if I have lower cysteine.

People with gilberts do better with more sulfur foods apparently.

[Guest guest]

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> You think its safe to try NAC? I am a little scared to tell you the

> truth.

Start with low doses and gradually increase as you are sure it's ok.

J

> However, all this makes me wonder if I have lower cysteine.

> People with gilberts do better with more sulfur foods apparently.

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[Guest guest]

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> You think its safe to try NAC? I am a little scared to tell you the

> truth.

Start with low doses and gradually increase as you are sure it's ok.

J

> However, all this makes me wonder if I have lower cysteine.

> People with gilberts do better with more sulfur foods apparently.

>

[Guest guest]

I personally have better results just taking ALA by itself, the DMSA

seems to not make any difference for me and also makes me feel worse.

(maybe the stress on my liver).

[Guest guest]

> Start with low doses and gradually increase as you are sure it's ok.

>

> J

What would be signs its NOT OK?

[Guest guest]

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> > Start with low doses and gradually increase as you are sure it's ok.

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> > J

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> What would be signs its NOT OK?

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Increase of whatever symptoms are common mercury symptoms for you.

For me, sulfur food symptoms were a flare up of emotions (weepy).

I wasn't able to tolerate sulfur foods immediately after amalgam

removal but I was tested to be low plasma cysteine about a year after

and am tolerating them fine now.

J

[Guest guest]

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> > Start with low doses and gradually increase as you are sure it's ok.

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> > J

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> What would be signs its NOT OK?

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Increase of whatever symptoms are common mercury symptoms for you.

For me, sulfur food symptoms were a flare up of emotions (weepy).

I wasn't able to tolerate sulfur foods immediately after amalgam

removal but I was tested to be low plasma cysteine about a year after

and am tolerating them fine now.

J

[Guest guest]

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> > Start with low doses and gradually increase as you are sure it's ok.

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> > J

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> What would be signs its NOT OK?

>

Increase of whatever symptoms are common mercury symptoms for you.

For me, sulfur food symptoms were a flare up of emotions (weepy).

I wasn't able to tolerate sulfur foods immediately after amalgam

removal but I was tested to be low plasma cysteine about a year after

and am tolerating them fine now.

J

[Guest guest]

Now with ROoneys paper I am worried about the NAC--- I have

used it for about a month taking at least 1000mg- 1500 mg with

each meal when I am not chelating. When chelating the ALA

dhelps and I do not need to take so much...

That is interesting about the Gilberts syndrome . Will check that

out as I have something weird with my digestion which comes on

as a sharp spasm with deep tiredness about 20 minutes after

eating then I feel rotten and very weak and have to rest for two

hours. I have always thought it was my gallbladder and have found

that the herb artichoke leaf extract helps somewhat , and

now have found alot of relief with the NAC> For this whole month

I have felt wonderful with the NAC.. and other high sulfur foods.

I have found no side affects so far with the high quantity of NAC

and only feel 100% better from that symptom..I find that 1500 mg

with each meal does the trick..

I wonder about taking the NAc on a schedual like every

four hours to conteract any negative side affects.

What do they recommend for GIlberts syndrome???

BOdy1million

[Guest guest]

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> Now with ROoneys paper I am worried about the NAC--- I have

> used it for about a month taking at least 1000mg- 1500 mg with

> each meal when I am not chelating. When chelating the ALA

> dhelps and I do not need to take so much...

>

> That is interesting about the Gilberts syndrome . Will check that

> out as I have something weird with my digestion which comes on

> as a sharp spasm with deep tiredness about 20 minutes after

> eating then I feel rotten and very weak and have to rest for two

> hours. I have always thought it was my gallbladder and have found

> that the herb artichoke leaf extract helps somewhat , and

> now have found alot of relief with the NAC> For this whole month

> I have felt wonderful with the NAC.. and other high sulfur foods.

>

> I have found no side affects so far with the high quantity of NAC

> and only feel 100% better from that symptom..I find that 1500 mg

> with each meal does the trick..

>

> I wonder about taking the NAc on a schedual like every

> four hours to conteract any negative side affects.

>

> What do they recommend for GIlberts syndrome???

>

> BOdy1million

>

My understanding it NAC increases Gluithione (sp) conjugation possibly

one of two phase two liver problems. Second can be glucurdination

(sp) speed up by increases thyroid hormone levels, reducing

inflamation, and using the supplements andy recommends as a base.

Like magnesium, B complex (make sure no ALA), vitamin C, milk thistle

and LOTS of flax probably a 12 oz bottle of liquid each week. People

with Gilberts tend to accept sulfur foods, some with HG poisoning

have LOW, middle or HIGH plasma cysteine. Apparently people with

gilberts must have low plasma cysteine thus can tolerate sulfur foods

to raise cysteine. The proof positive way to tell would be to drop

all cysteine makers or sulfur foods (NAC too) for a while, then take

the Great Smokies Liver Detox profile. It will evaluate your

cysteine, sulfate levels (phase I) and then alot of your phase II's.

Apparently gilberts is a phase two problem, if low in gluithione

conjugation and you have had high billirubin (probably gilberts) ,

then supplement with NAC, glutimine, glycine, (4-2-1 ratio)

respectively) Low in glucurdination then increase thyroid levels

(might want to do a free t3-t4) this assumes though you have had

enough cortisol to take in the thyroid hormone otherwise they can

appear falsely high. (as they have with me), then the above (b,c, flax

etc) that is relavant and safe to a mercury tox person, then reduce

inflamation and LOTS (not pills, but lots of flax seed oil liquid) we

are talking like a 1/3-1/4 of a cup a day for about a month then you

can back down to a like a couple tablespoons, this will help reduce

inflamation. Both glucurdination probs and gluthione probs can

increase billirubin levels without increasing liver enzymes, this is

the so called beniegn liver condition called gilberts syndrome. BTW

any metabolic panel should have a billirubin count, you may have had

it before and your doctor may have mention it. Ordering the Great

Smokies (or I think its called Genova now) from Direct Labs will

include the comprehensive liver detox profile with a comprehensive

metabolic panel for $230.00 which really is'nt a bad deal. I am about

to order this for myself. BTW I have had elevated billirubin (and

albumin) in my panels since I was 18, I am now 26. They say gilberts

is genetic but yet there is no test for it genetically to confirm and

in addition some that it was believe not to be genetic have developed

the condition even in rare cases when women have had it and they are

normally not subject to it to begin with. BTW Andy claims in other

messages that Gilberts is'nt beneign and nobody with it thinks so, he

is right. I love how he somehow cuts through the junk. BTW Gilberts

(one of the phase II problems it causes) causes you to slow down

heavy metal detox. (I had two REALLY REALLY small fillings and met

the counting rules)

(excuse my gramatical errors or spelling, its been a long day)

J

[Guest guest]

> That is interesting about the Gilberts syndrome . Will check that

> out as I have something weird with my digestion which comes on

> as a sharp spasm with deep tiredness about 20 minutes after

> eating then I feel rotten and very weak and have to rest for two

> hours. I have always thought it was my gallbladder and have found

> that the herb artichoke leaf extract helps somewhat

People with Gilbert's have a increased incidence of gallstones. I

think it increases 5 fold but don't quote me till I find the literature.

Obviously artichoke leaf speeds up bile flow, thought about taurine

and magnesium?

J