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Below is a snippet from the A-M archives, Andy talking about the

stall/regression period.

This is the natural progression of detox. Initial improvements, stall or

worsening, then

slow improvement again. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Keep the faith, you'll

come out on

the other side. :)

in Illinois, chelating adult, chelating 2 NT kids, 57 rounds

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/178468.html

You need to keep chelating! If you don't chelate enough, they actually get worse

for a

while.

As long as you keep chelating, progress will resume at 9-15 months after you

started.

Then you chelate chelate chelate chelate until they get all better.

If you stop chelating due to the initial stall in progress, they won't get all

better.

If you chelate and see progress in the first few months you need to stick with

it for a

couple of years. Don't stop. The progress will come back.

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> The stall can last anywhere from 6-9 months and I agree, it's

disheartening.

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I have been following Andy's protocal for almost 5 years and I have

never heard anything about a stall?! AAArgh. Is this in his book -

AI? I don't recall seeing it. Is this on a case by case basis or can

everyone expect to go through this?

Val

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However, the dreaded " stall " period came...and hasn't left.

Recently, this process has

> become pretty disheartening - as every weekend is approached with

the " is THIS the round

> that he resumes moving ahead? " question in our minds. Looking for

little " signs " & holding

> our breath as the regressions mount...

My suggestion -- and maybe you're already doing this -- is to keep

plodding through rounds but try monkeying with supps and addressing

other possible issues like viral problems.

One thing I've found is that the first time you try a supp it may not

be tolerated or work at all, but if you try it many rounds later,

pathway have been cleared and it may be very very helpful. Inositol

was like that for n.

What are his main symptoms now?

Nell

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> I have been following Andy's protocal for almost 5 years and I have

> never heard anything about a stall?! AAArgh. Is this in his book -

> AI? I don't recall seeing it. Is this on a case by case basis or can

> everyone expect to go through this?

>

> Val

>

Yes, pg. 52 of AI.

in Illinois

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----- Original Message -----

I have been following Andy's protocal for almost 5 years and I have

> never heard anything about a stall?! AAArgh. Is this in his book -

> AI? I don't recall seeing it. Is this on a case by case basis or can

> everyone expect to go through this?

***Yes, page 52 of AI and he repeatedly cautions parents on A-M about this.

I have known a few people who didn't understand this and have stopped

chelation of their child thinking that it was no longer working, only to

have the child return to baseline.

And some kids/people can get a little worsening of symptoms during this

period of time although it is more likely just to see a stall.

Our stall was not quite this long..lasted about 4 months. But if you've been

doing the protocol for 5 years you should be well past this.

>

> Val

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----- Original Message -----

I have been following Andy's protocal for almost 5 years and I have

> never heard anything about a stall?! AAArgh. Is this in his book -

> AI? I don't recall seeing it. Is this on a case by case basis or can

> everyone expect to go through this?

***Yes, page 52 of AI and he repeatedly cautions parents on A-M about this.

I have known a few people who didn't understand this and have stopped

chelation of their child thinking that it was no longer working, only to

have the child return to baseline.

And some kids/people can get a little worsening of symptoms during this

period of time although it is more likely just to see a stall.

Our stall was not quite this long..lasted about 4 months. But if you've been

doing the protocol for 5 years you should be well past this.

>

> Val

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----- Original Message -----

I have been following Andy's protocal for almost 5 years and I have

> never heard anything about a stall?! AAArgh. Is this in his book -

> AI? I don't recall seeing it. Is this on a case by case basis or can

> everyone expect to go through this?

***Yes, page 52 of AI and he repeatedly cautions parents on A-M about this.

I have known a few people who didn't understand this and have stopped

chelation of their child thinking that it was no longer working, only to

have the child return to baseline.

And some kids/people can get a little worsening of symptoms during this

period of time although it is more likely just to see a stall.

Our stall was not quite this long..lasted about 4 months. But if you've been

doing the protocol for 5 years you should be well past this.

>

> Val

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> ***Yes, page 52 of AI to baseline.

>

> And some kids/people can get a little worsening of symptoms during

this

> period of time although it is more likely just to see a stall.

>

> Our stall was not quite this long..lasted about 4 months. But if

you've been

> doing the protocol for 5 years you should be well past this.

>

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Thanks, I actually just started the protocal fully 2 months ago. I

was frightened away from it by stupid docs. I haven't read this page

yet, but I wonder why the stall?

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> ***Yes, page 52 of AI to baseline.

>

> And some kids/people can get a little worsening of symptoms during

this

> period of time although it is more likely just to see a stall.

>

> Our stall was not quite this long..lasted about 4 months. But if

you've been

> doing the protocol for 5 years you should be well past this.

>

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Thanks, I actually just started the protocal fully 2 months ago. I

was frightened away from it by stupid docs. I haven't read this page

yet, but I wonder why the stall?

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> ***Yes, page 52 of AI to baseline.

>

> And some kids/people can get a little worsening of symptoms during

this

> period of time although it is more likely just to see a stall.

>

> Our stall was not quite this long..lasted about 4 months. But if

you've been

> doing the protocol for 5 years you should be well past this.

>

------------------

Thanks, I actually just started the protocal fully 2 months ago. I

was frightened away from it by stupid docs. I haven't read this page

yet, but I wonder why the stall?

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