Re: Feel better on chelation, worse when off?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all.

>

> I am on my 4-5 round of DMSA 100mg plus ALA 100 mg every 3 hours. I

> did a round for four days and felt just about as good as I have in

> like years. Go off feel worse, get ringing in the ears, lose hearing

> etc. Its like I can't wait another 3 days or so so I can start again

> am I a rare on and why do I feel better on a cycle?

>

> Thanks

>

How much do you weigh? That seems like a lot of DMSA and ALA in the beginning.

I usually feel better on round than off, unless I get sleep deprived from having

difficulty

going back to sleep after the alarm goes off.

I also had some weird ear stuff in the beginning of chelation

in Illinois, round 57

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all.

>

> I am on my 4-5 round of DMSA 100mg plus ALA 100 mg every 3 hours. I

> did a round for four days and felt just about as good as I have in

> like years. Go off feel worse, get ringing in the ears, lose hearing

> etc. Its like I can't wait another 3 days or so so I can start again

> am I a rare on and why do I feel better on a cycle?

>

> Thanks

>

How much do you weigh? That seems like a lot of DMSA and ALA in the beginning.

I usually feel better on round than off, unless I get sleep deprived from having

difficulty

going back to sleep after the alarm goes off.

I also had some weird ear stuff in the beginning of chelation

in Illinois, round 57

[Guest guest]

> How much do you weigh? That seems like a lot of DMSA and ALA in the

beginning.

>

> I usually feel better on round than off, unless I get sleep deprived

from having difficulty

> going back to sleep after the alarm goes off.

>

> I also had some weird ear stuff in the beginning of chelation

>

> in Illinois, round 57

>

I weigh about 235 pounds, fairly bulky male. Main complaint was

adrenally related, anxiety, slight depression and just overall

yuckyness, fatigue etc. The off round symptoms don't bother me too

much, I can deal with them, I just wanted to know the mechanism. I

was also thinking maybe because ALA was a antioxidant maybe thats why

I felt better on round then off. Thanks

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > How much do you weigh? That seems like a lot of DMSA and ALA in

the

> beginning.

> >

> > I usually feel better on round than off, unless I get sleep

deprived

> from having difficulty

> > going back to sleep after the alarm goes off.

> >

> > I also had some weird ear stuff in the beginning of chelation

> >

> > in Illinois, round 57

> >

>

> I weigh about 235 pounds, fairly bulky male. Main complaint was

> adrenally related, anxiety, slight depression and just overall

> yuckyness, fatigue etc. The off round symptoms don't bother me too

> much, I can deal with them, I just wanted to know the mechanism.

I

> was also thinking maybe because ALA was a antioxidant maybe thats

why

> I felt better on round then off.

TK--- it can be

Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

> I

> > was also thinking maybe because ALA was a antioxidant maybe thats

> why

> > I felt better on round then off.

>

>

> TK--- it can be

>

>

> Thanks

> >

>

Of course, if it was chelating SOMETHING I would'nt get the insomnia

the day after, the adrenal feelings, feelings that I can't breath, and

the ringing that has returned after it went away during the round. To

me ringing is a sign of metals movement because this happened on my

first DMSA round and of course DMSA is'nt a antioxidant, if anything

it probably promotes oxidation because it is after a drug.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

>

> > I

> > > was also thinking maybe because ALA was a antioxidant maybe

thats

> > why

> > > I felt better on round then off.

> >

> >

> > TK--- it can be

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> > >

> >

>

> Of course, if it was chelating SOMETHING I would'nt get the

insomnia

> the day after, the adrenal feelings, feelings that I can't breath,

and

> the ringing that has returned after it went away during the round.

TK--- I think you mean [if it wasn't chelating something] you

wouldn't be getting side effects - which is correct. The fact that

you do get significant side efffects indicates you have Hg toxicity

To

> me ringing is a sign of metals movement because this happened on my

> first DMSA round and of course DMSA is'nt a antioxidant

TK--- correct it is a side affect many get while chelating showing

the movement of Hg somewhere in you to cause it. Depending on

individual sensitivities, injury,damage, where the Hg detaches

attaches and re-attaches etc.... the side effects will be different.

, if anything

> it probably promotes oxidation because it is after a drug.

TK--- correct, the reason we all need to beef up on antioxidents

A,C,E,EFA's etc...ALA does help with this as well as chelating.

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all.

>

> I am on my 4-5 round of DMSA 100mg plus ALA 100 mg every 3 hours. I

> did a round for four days and felt just about as good as I have in

> like years. Go off feel worse, get ringing in the ears, lose hearing

> etc. Its like I can't wait another 3 days or so so I can start again

> am I a rare on and why do I feel better on a cycle?

>

> Thanks

>

It might mean you do better with higher cysteine levels. You might

want to compare how you do with reduced cysteine vs maximized.

Some people feel much better with more.

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[Guest guest]

> TK--- this is a lot to start with and I would recommend reducing dosage

If it is tolerable is there a need? It is'nt life limiting just,

uncomfortable.

> TK-- this is redistribution after, you can either reduce dosage [which

> I would recommend anyway] or do longer rounds up to a week to begin.

I am thinking of ALA only for expense up to instead of 4-5 days 7

days. Suggestions?

> TK--- as many days off as on. some people do better while on round

> consider yourself lucky. I would recommend reducing dosage by at least

> half to begin with and maybe do longer rounds of up to a week to start -

> please review the protocol.

I am 235 ibs, is 100 mg too much, if so I may have misread the AI

book? Please fill me in if I am wrong!

Thanks

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > TK--- this is a lot to start with and I would recommend reducing

dosage

>

> If it is tolerable is there a need?

TK--- your post said you were having problems, if they are tollerable

they are fine if not lower dosage - it is still a lot to begin with

and I don't recommend starting with that high of an amount, it isn't

as safe. side effects do not always start right away.

It is'nt life limiting just,

> uncomfortable.

>

>

> > TK-- this is redistribution after, you can either reduce dosage

[which

> > I would recommend anyway] or do longer rounds up to a week to

begin.

>

> I am thinking of ALA only for expense up to instead of 4-5 days 7

> days. Suggestions?

TK--- do not base your chelation on expense. much more expensive to

mess yourself up. 7 day rounds are fine for certain individuals.

>

>

> > TK--- as many days off as on. some people do better while on

round

> > consider yourself lucky. I would recommend reducing dosage by at

least

> > half to begin with and maybe do longer rounds of up to a week to

start -

> > please review the protocol.

>

> I am 235 ibs, is 100 mg too much, if so I may have misread the AI

> book? Please fill me in if I am wrong!

TK--- dosage is by weight links section and one should start on the

low end. But, no matter what you weigh if you use too much chelator -

more than your body can handle you can cause serious problems and it

is safest to start low - general suggestions in the files section.

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > TK--- this is a lot to start with and I would recommend reducing

dosage

>

> If it is tolerable is there a need?

TK--- your post said you were having problems, if they are tollerable

they are fine if not lower dosage - it is still a lot to begin with

and I don't recommend starting with that high of an amount, it isn't

as safe. side effects do not always start right away.

It is'nt life limiting just,

> uncomfortable.

>

>

> > TK-- this is redistribution after, you can either reduce dosage

[which

> > I would recommend anyway] or do longer rounds up to a week to

begin.

>

> I am thinking of ALA only for expense up to instead of 4-5 days 7

> days. Suggestions?

TK--- do not base your chelation on expense. much more expensive to

mess yourself up. 7 day rounds are fine for certain individuals.

>

>

> > TK--- as many days off as on. some people do better while on

round

> > consider yourself lucky. I would recommend reducing dosage by at

least

> > half to begin with and maybe do longer rounds of up to a week to

start -

> > please review the protocol.

>

> I am 235 ibs, is 100 mg too much, if so I may have misread the AI

> book? Please fill me in if I am wrong!

TK--- dosage is by weight links section and one should start on the

low end. But, no matter what you weigh if you use too much chelator -

more than your body can handle you can cause serious problems and it

is safest to start low - general suggestions in the files section.

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > TK--- this is a lot to start with and I would recommend reducing

dosage

>

> If it is tolerable is there a need? It is'nt life limiting just,

> uncomfortable.

The thing is, chelation takes years. You probably don't want to be

uncomfortable for that many days. Also, side effects can build up, so

that a dosage may not give any side effects to speak of for a few

rounds, and then you get walloped.

Marathon not a sprint, is the mantra...

Nell

[Guest guest]

>

> It might mean you do better with higher cysteine levels. You might

> want to compare how you do with reduced cysteine vs maximized.

> Some people feel much better with more.

>

> --

>

This is likely since I have something called Gilberts, and people with

gilberts do better with high sulfur apparently.