Re: Appendix removed thru Vagina? OR MOUTH

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Also see:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080317093904.htm

Ora

Appendix Removed Via Mouth; First Such Surgery In U.S.

ScienceDaily (Mar. 17, 2008) — On Wednesday, March 12, 2008, surgeons at UC San

Diego Medical Center performed what is believed to be the country's first

removal of a diseased appendix through the mouth. This clinical trial procedure

received approval for a limited number of patients by UC San Diego's

Institutional Review Board (IRB) which oversees clinical research.

" The purpose of this clinical trial is to test more 'patient-focused' techniques

for minimally invasive surgery, " said Mark A. Talamini, M.D., professor and

chair of the Department of Surgery at UC San Diego Medical Center. " UC San Diego

Medical Center is testing groundbreaking ways in which to perform surgery with

fewer incisions, less pain, and more rapid recoveries. "

>WOW... this is unusal...

>Though in our condition? I dunno.

>Dee

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>Appendix Removed Through Vagina, U.S. First

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>http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/539130/?sc=mwhn

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>On March 26, 2008, surgeons at UC San Diego Medical Center removed an inflamed

appendix through a patient’s vagina, a first in the United States. Following the

50-minute procedure, the patient, Schlamadinger, reported only minor

discomfort. Removal of diseased organs through the body’s natural openings

offers patients a rapid recovery. Continued at site:

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>—University of California, San Diego.........

[Guest guest]

Also see:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080317093904.htm

Ora

Appendix Removed Via Mouth; First Such Surgery In U.S.

ScienceDaily (Mar. 17, 2008) — On Wednesday, March 12, 2008, surgeons at UC San

Diego Medical Center performed what is believed to be the country's first

removal of a diseased appendix through the mouth. This clinical trial procedure

received approval for a limited number of patients by UC San Diego's

Institutional Review Board (IRB) which oversees clinical research.

" The purpose of this clinical trial is to test more 'patient-focused' techniques

for minimally invasive surgery, " said Mark A. Talamini, M.D., professor and

chair of the Department of Surgery at UC San Diego Medical Center. " UC San Diego

Medical Center is testing groundbreaking ways in which to perform surgery with

fewer incisions, less pain, and more rapid recoveries. "

>WOW... this is unusal...

>Though in our condition? I dunno.

>Dee

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>

>Appendix Removed Through Vagina, U.S. First

>

>http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/539130/?sc=mwhn

>

>On March 26, 2008, surgeons at UC San Diego Medical Center removed an inflamed

appendix through a patient’s vagina, a first in the United States. Following the

50-minute procedure, the patient, Schlamadinger, reported only minor

discomfort. Removal of diseased organs through the body’s natural openings

offers patients a rapid recovery. Continued at site:

>

>—University of California, San Diego.........

[Guest guest]

HI Ora..... thanks for that.

That sure seems odd and coincidental, both at UC San Diego Med Center, and within a few days of each other, both for the appendix but removed from different ends of the body.. Jeeze. What's next, (I won't even state a guess as a picture just formed in my mind, LOL) It sure makes me wonder what else they're experimenting on and if they have informed consent for the subjects.

Dee

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080317093904.htm

(appendix removed thru the mouth)

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/539130/?sc=mwhn

(appendix removed thru the vagina)

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I guess I'm just wishing those docs would experiment on each other...there's no way I would knowingly be ok with some experimental something like that unless my life was on the line. I like my idea...docs have to practice OVER AND OVER on each other before they're let loose on the rest of us. Maybe that would either give them more empathy or weed out the stinkers. L

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interesting, that's just what the pelvic PTs do, maybe that's why they are so compassionate

Re: Appendix removed thru Vagina? OR MOUTH

I guess I'm just wishing those docs would experiment on each other...there' s no way I would knowingly be ok with some experimental something like that unless my life was on the line. I like my idea...docs have to practice OVER AND OVER on each other before they're let loose on the rest of us. Maybe that would either give them more empathy or weed out the stinkers.

L

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The one who had the vaginal procedure was a third year student at the university

and the one who had it via his mouth was a man who was " interested " . Both

probably paid nothing for their surgeries since they were investigational and

were covered by a grant.

Ora

>I guess I'm just wishing those docs would experiment on each other...there's no

way I would knowingly be ok with some experimental something like that unless my

life was on the line. I like my idea...docs have to practice OVER AND OVER on

each other before they're let loose on the rest of us. Maybe that would either

give them more empathy or weed out the stinkers.

> L

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I know...but I think it's really really hard to truly have " informed

consent " -meaning an understanding of ALL of the risks and

benefits...the potential long-term issues, side-effects, etc., unless

you are in the medical profession or VERY well-researched on an

experimental procedure.

Lindsey

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I know that when you sign saying that it is OK to have medical students participate in surgery that they often actually PERFORM the surgery. I will never again have any surgery done in a teaching hospital. Has anyone ever watched Diagnosis X? It is on the discovery health channel and if it is for real at all, it shows that in teaching hospitals, care can get pretty sketchy.

love, Molly

Re: Appendix removed thru Vagina? OR MOUTH

I know...but I think it's really really hard to truly have "informed consent"-meaning an understanding of ALL of the risks and benefits...the potential long-term issues, side-effects, etc., unless you are in the medical profession or VERY well-researched on an experimental procedure.Lindsey

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