Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 I had all of my silver amalgons removed by the end of 1997. My holistic dentist told me that it might help my rheumatoid arthritis. It didn't. -- Mercury Has anyone been tested for mercury toxicity? I've been toying with the idea for several months now... but have yet to do it. What is the best way to test? I just found this saliva test - others I've seen are hair, urine, blood... this is new to me... http://www.mercurytestkits.com/ My latest ND said most people with thyroid disease have too much mercury in their bodies. She's not the first to say that, and I've read it several places as well - on ithyroid had all his silver amalgons replaced for this reason. Has anyone else been thinking about this? Pam B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 Did you do the detox afterwards? -- Re: Mercury I had all of my silver amalgons removed by the end of 1997. My holistic dentist told me that it might help my rheumatoid arthritis. It didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Pam, I've never tested, partly because what is the alternative? My dentist is slowly replacing silver with the new plastics, but even those make me nervous, what chemicals are in there? I've only had the ones that fail replaced, so far. And, it seems like a few more are likely to reach the end of their life soon. Does anyone know about the new dental filling compounds? One other dental thing I wonder about is root canals. I think they are dangerous to my health--especially my last one which failed and caused a big infection. I've read that no matter what they do, they are really trapping all sorts of infectious stuff in the root that can have adverse effects. Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:53:08 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > To: graves_support > > Subject: Mercury > > Has anyone been tested for mercury toxicity? I've been toying with the idea > for several months now... but have yet to do it. What is the best way to > test? > > I just found this saliva test - others I've seen are hair, urine, blood... > this is new to me... > > http://www.mercurytestkits.com/ > > My latest ND said most people with thyroid disease have too much mercury in > their bodies. She's not the first to say that, and I've read it several > places as well - on ithyroid had all his silver amalgons replaced for > this reason. > > Has anyone else been thinking about this? > > Pam B. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi Terry, yes, root canals are not good either according to my new ND. She has a laser tool that she lends out to patients to save a tooth and avoid a root canal. I'm not sure what it is.. but I was asking because one of my teeth is dying and the dentist says I may need a root canal soon. I asked my dentist about replacing the silver with the plastic and she said what happens is they have to redrill to set the plastic in and the plastic doesn't last half as long as the silver so when it gets old they have to drill again. I have never in my life had a cavity and always had beautiful teeth till now - yet all my teeth are filled - stupid jerk dentist and his " preventative " dentistry. I'm sure it's a factor. I would think that if I had mercury in my body I could detox it without having the fillings removed... eventually all the mercury should be leached out and then detoxed right? Of course I used to think I could just add oil to my old oil burning car and not need an oil change too... so my thinking is not always sound. Pam B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 No, I didn't do a detox. What kind of a detox does one do for this? -- Re: Mercury I had all of my silver amalgons removed by the end of 1997. My holistic dentist told me that it might help my rheumatoid arthritis. It didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi , I'm not sure what it involves but there is a whole 6-8 month detox process afterwards. I've been talking to a woman who did it -she's near the end of it - and she said it's not fun - it makes you feel much worse before you feel better. And now she's starting to go hyper again because of it (there was some seaweed thing in there that was high in iodine - so maybe her doc wasn't making the right detox program for HER) so she's really kind of bummed. SInce I'm on the topic of this woman... she has gone back on this stuff called thyrodex that her ND gave her (what she used last time to get her thyroid back to normal) and also Moducare - those plant sterols we were talking about a while ago. I'm looking forward to hearing how those things are working for her this time. Pam B. -- Re: Mercury No, I didn't do a detox. What kind of a detox does one do for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi Pam B, >>>I would think that if I had mercury in my body I could detox it without >>>having the fillings removed... eventually all the mercury should be >>>leached out and then detoxed right?<<< Removing mercury fillings has to be done safely, unfortunately my brain fogged hypO mind is not working well enough to explain the whys and hows...I have several articles about this on my computer and I will try to locate them for you next week...when I get this perscription problem straightened out. Will send them to you then...but one thing I do remember is that as long as they are in our mouths they are leaching mercury to our bodies. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 OMG Pam! If I had to have all my silver fillings replaced I might as well just get a set of dentures or something! It'd probably be cheaper! Hell, and look better, too! What about root canals - do they put mercury filling in those? I never thought to ask when I had mine years ago. (2 in the _same_ tooth - had to have it redone - that sucks!) If you get the mercury test done, let me know how it goes. I might be interested in that! (likely has a mouth full of mercury) Mercury > Has anyone been tested for mercury toxicity? I've been toying with the idea > for several months now... but have yet to do it. What is the best way to > test? > > I just found this saliva test - others I've seen are hair, urine, blood... > this is new to me... > > http://www.mercurytestkits.com/ > > My latest ND said most people with thyroid disease have too much mercury in > their bodies. She's not the first to say that, and I've read it several > places as well - on ithyroid had all his silver amalgons replaced for > this reason. > > Has anyone else been thinking about this? > > Pam B. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 , My mouth is full too. But after looking around the net on this topic, I personally came to the conclusion there is more danger in removing all there fillings than leaving them undisturbed. That's just me. When they do my root canals, I notice they first put some strong smelling stuff in there to sterilize it I guess, fill it with one kind of light colored thing and then at the end, the final filling is a normal type of filling, depending on if it shows , or is back where it has to be stronger because of pressure from chewing. -Pam L - owner of many root canals, including one over 8 yr old that still hurts and no one believes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 , My mouth is full too. But after looking around the net on this topic, I personally came to the conclusion there is more danger in removing all there fillings than leaving them undisturbed. That's just me. When they do my root canals, I notice they first put some strong smelling stuff in there to sterilize it I guess, fill it with one kind of light colored thing and then at the end, the final filling is a normal type of filling, depending on if it shows , or is back where it has to be stronger because of pressure from chewing. -Pam L - owner of many root canals, including one over 8 yr old that still hurts and no one believes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 , My mouth is full too. But after looking around the net on this topic, I personally came to the conclusion there is more danger in removing all there fillings than leaving them undisturbed. That's just me. When they do my root canals, I notice they first put some strong smelling stuff in there to sterilize it I guess, fill it with one kind of light colored thing and then at the end, the final filling is a normal type of filling, depending on if it shows , or is back where it has to be stronger because of pressure from chewing. -Pam L - owner of many root canals, including one over 8 yr old that still hurts and no one believes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi Terry and Pam B, I've also read about root canals not being good and so hasn't my sister. My sister heard that they could lead to certain cancers. Don't know if anyone else had heard that, I haven't. My teeth grinding lead to the fractures of my fillings and teeth, especially the molars. I needed root canals in all my molars and than they didn't know if after all that the tooth would last. It was not a permanent solution. Unfortunately I decided to do away with all my molars and go with partials. Work on saving my front teeth that you can see. I worry not liking the partials, but it is one of those things I will deal with. If I can deal with this graves stuff I can deal with partials. Did they not use to use silver (real silver) for fillings at one time? Seems to me I remember that. Growing up in a small town we were always 10-20 yrs. behind the times. LOL! I've read about the procelain fillings they are doing. They don't use them at the dental clinic, hmmm I shall ask my doctor in two weeks when I go and see why. I've read though that they don't have to drill out as much of the tooth as they do with other fillings. They just take out the decay, usually they take out twice as much tooth as the decay. That is what the article said anyways. As I remember they make a form of the hole they drilled and then pour the porcelain, wait and place it in the drilled hole. The article said the porcelain is actually tougher than the actual took itself and they last a long time. Does anyone else know anything about them. Speaking of my teeth, I have two new reconstructed front top teeth. We started out not adding much length for starts. Before gd I had perfect, straight, beautiful teeth. ;( Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 I answered the survery noting the 10 fillings I had at diagnosis. Actually I was having them all replaced at the time I remember my symptoms starting. In fact during one appt. my dentist punched the needle through my jaw to deaden my mouth (He said it worked great for him, so I asked him " how about the patient " .) After that visit I got a terrible jaw infection, and soon noticed weak legs and being breathless. This was in May. I switched dentists, and saw another in July who told me I needed to have some of my new (replacement) fillings replaced, because my teeth had ground them down. He also suggested a " occlusal guard " (plyable plastic that fits over my top teeth) to wear while sleeping. Something to consider... I am concerned about the mercury I must have put into my system. I just started my ATD's yesterday, and I'm very hyper. Right now I am feeling overwhelmed on all I need to learn and change in my life. I don't know if I can deal with detoxing mercury right now. Maybe later. I'm glad to know I can get the info from the achives. I am really appreciating all the info I am getting here. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Yes, Jody is right, there is a special procedure where they have to give you oxygen so you don't breath in any of the mercury... but you know... if you just break a filling and they drill it out and replace - they aren't doing anythiing special to protect themselves or you... but if you are going to have your whole mouth done, I would (and will do if I decide to do this) go to a dentist that specializes in this.. There are even holistic/naturopathic dentists these days - something to look into. Though I do love my current dentist - she is hyperthyroid too btw. And then follow up with a mercury detox program. Someone told me that if you've had the silver fillings for 20 years or more, insurance will pay to have them replaced... I'm sure as in all things that depends on the insurance co. , I don't know if they pack a root canal with mercury - I would hope not! But what do they pack it with??? Pam B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi , I'm glad your posting!!! Your right about putting off the detoxing for now, you have enough on your plate. I have a mouthful of mercury fillings and have read a couple of articles that have said if your dentist does not know how to remove mercury fillings safely, they may be less harmful left where they are at. The connection between your dental work and the onset of GD is interesting. Jody PS I haven't forgotten I owe you a couple of e-mails, am fighting hypo yet again as I being my 3rd month on the compound _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi , I know, the thought of doing that type of detox is really kind of frightening to me too. The woman I was talking to that did it had gotten her hyperthyroid under control, her numbers were fine for about a year before she did the detox thing... and she's been feeling bad from the detox for about 9 months now and is going hyper again. It just doesn't sound like a good situation at all. Hang in there - there are much easier things you can to that will make you feel better right away... just worry about what you can deal with now. Pam B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 > Pam, > > I've never tested, partly because what is the alternative? My dentist is > slowly replacing silver with the new plastics, but even those make me > nervous, what chemicals are in there? I've only had the ones that fail > replaced, so far. And, it seems like a few more are likely to reach the end > of their life soon. Does anyone know about the new dental filling compounds? > > One other dental thing I wonder about is root canals. I think they are > dangerous to my health--especially my last one which failed and caused a big > infection. I've read that no matter what they do, they are really trapping > all sorts of infectious stuff in the root that can have adverse effects. > > Terry Gold is the only replacement that isn't going to contain lots of 'mysterious' products. The resin fillings you're getting are a) not going to last as long as amalgams or gold, and contain far more toxic materials than you'd like to think of - _if_ they leak - which most don't. Root canals have been done for thousands of years - started by the Egyptians - gutta percha is the inert ingredient placed sterile into the cleaned out 'root' canals. If you have a board certified endodontist place them, you shouldn't have residual problems, but there are never any guarantees with them. A general dentist can do root canals, but unless they do lots of them, I'd rather have the specialist. I have about 6 root canals in my mouth and have never had any problems. Doesn't mean you won't. The only really positive guarantee of no problems is an extraction. Jani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 > I've worked in dentistry for 35 years. Amalgams are trituated mercury > and silver compound (with lots of other trace materials). Even with > all of the contact I've had with the real thing - and in the olden > days we actually placed the mercury into the capsules with the silver > alloy - when I was tested for mercury I had none - and I have most of > my molars and bicuspids filled with amalgams. Granted, if you can > afford it, you would be better off with gold inlays, but I, for one, > don't believe we're getting poisoned by our fillings. Just my > opinion, of course. > > Jani Just to add that my naturopath who is big on testing for mineral toxicity doesn't believe mercury fillings are truly a problem for most people. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 > I've worked in dentistry for 35 years. Amalgams are trituated mercury > and silver compound (with lots of other trace materials). Even with > all of the contact I've had with the real thing - and in the olden > days we actually placed the mercury into the capsules with the silver > alloy - when I was tested for mercury I had none - and I have most of > my molars and bicuspids filled with amalgams. Granted, if you can > afford it, you would be better off with gold inlays, but I, for one, > don't believe we're getting poisoned by our fillings. Just my > opinion, of course. > > Jani Just to add that my naturopath who is big on testing for mineral toxicity doesn't believe mercury fillings are truly a problem for most people. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 and Jani, I think they probably aren't a problem for most people. I would say if they were done wrong they might be (can they be done wrong? How long ago was it that the dentist was mixing the mercury himself?) or if we grind our teeth they might become a problem. I'm going to make a new poll about grinding teeth! Pam B. -- Re: Re: Mercury > I've worked in dentistry for 35 years. Amalgams are trituated mercury > and silver compound (with lots of other trace materials). Even with > all of the contact I've had with the real thing - and in the olden > days we actually placed the mercury into the capsules with the silver > alloy - when I was tested for mercury I had none - and I have most of > my molars and bicuspids filled with amalgams. Granted, if you can > afford it, you would be better off with gold inlays, but I, for one, > don't believe we're getting poisoned by our fillings. Just my > opinion, of course. > > Jani Just to add that my naturopath who is big on testing for mineral toxicity doesn't believe mercury fillings are truly a problem for most people. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 and Jani, I think they probably aren't a problem for most people. I would say if they were done wrong they might be (can they be done wrong? How long ago was it that the dentist was mixing the mercury himself?) or if we grind our teeth they might become a problem. I'm going to make a new poll about grinding teeth! Pam B. -- Re: Re: Mercury > I've worked in dentistry for 35 years. Amalgams are trituated mercury > and silver compound (with lots of other trace materials). Even with > all of the contact I've had with the real thing - and in the olden > days we actually placed the mercury into the capsules with the silver > alloy - when I was tested for mercury I had none - and I have most of > my molars and bicuspids filled with amalgams. Granted, if you can > afford it, you would be better off with gold inlays, but I, for one, > don't believe we're getting poisoned by our fillings. Just my > opinion, of course. > > Jani Just to add that my naturopath who is big on testing for mineral toxicity doesn't believe mercury fillings are truly a problem for most people. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Pam -- I bet your'e right. Done incorrectly, these things -- like much else -- could be a problem. Re: Re: Mercury > > > I've worked in dentistry for 35 years. Amalgams are trituated mercury > > and silver compound (with lots of other trace materials). Even with > > all of the contact I've had with the real thing - and in the olden > > days we actually placed the mercury into the capsules with the silver > > alloy - when I was tested for mercury I had none - and I have most of > > my molars and bicuspids filled with amalgams. Granted, if you can > > afford it, you would be better off with gold inlays, but I, for one, > > don't believe we're getting poisoned by our fillings. Just my > > opinion, of course. > > > > Jani > > > Just to add that my naturopath who is big on testing for mineral toxicity > doesn't believe mercury fillings are truly a problem for most people. > > B > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 > and Jani, I think they probably aren't a problem for most people. I > would say if they were done wrong they might be (can they be done wrong? How > long ago was it that the dentist was mixing the mercury himself?) or if we > grind our teeth they might become a problem. > > I'm going to make a new poll about grinding teeth! > > Pam B. > Probably if they were done wrong, they'd fall out (the fillings, that is!). It won't set up if it's not mixed right. I've been grinding my teeth for years, have worn night guards, etc. and still don't have mercury in my system. Jani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 > and Jani, I think they probably aren't a problem for most people. I > would say if they were done wrong they might be (can they be done wrong? How > long ago was it that the dentist was mixing the mercury himself?) or if we > grind our teeth they might become a problem. > > I'm going to make a new poll about grinding teeth! > > Pam B. > Probably if they were done wrong, they'd fall out (the fillings, that is!). It won't set up if it's not mixed right. I've been grinding my teeth for years, have worn night guards, etc. and still don't have mercury in my system. Jani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 > and Jani, I think they probably aren't a problem for most people. I > would say if they were done wrong they might be (can they be done wrong? How > long ago was it that the dentist was mixing the mercury himself?) or if we > grind our teeth they might become a problem. > > I'm going to make a new poll about grinding teeth! > > Pam B. > Probably if they were done wrong, they'd fall out (the fillings, that is!). It won't set up if it's not mixed right. I've been grinding my teeth for years, have worn night guards, etc. and still don't have mercury in my system. Jani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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