Re: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

[Guest guest]

you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing the

patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as transporting

similar

patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

ambulance?

In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

spenair@... writes:

As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also

say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world

policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into

ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and could

even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys. Only

allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

[Guest guest]

Hyperbole in the absence of objective discourse and relevant facts is always

a non-starter. Thanks for playing.

>

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and

> could even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys.

> Only allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple attempts so lawyers don't

> sue you ) divert to nearest funeral home.

>

> This policy will save money for private and tax supported services. Also

> perhaps we can allow contracts be established with funeral homes to help

> earn even more money. And again to avoid appearance of conflict of interest

> and law suits document multiple attempts of asking if breathing.

>

> And to ensure quality medical ummm I mean quality driving sklls all

> ambulance drivers will attend the Petty racing experience.

>

> So now are you all happy? I am willing to just continue working to see the

> collapse of EMS with the masses.

>

> If you can not see the sarcasm dripping from the above enjoy bashing me as

> it means you edumacated folks ar leaving some other poor ignorant backwuds

> ful alon. ( spelling bad as I'm not smart enough to spell check )

>

> %(

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And thank you for playing as well. I have to say I love those that basically

comment to say that it is not worth commenting. I'm sure theres a big word for

that but I'm to uneducated to know it even if you told me it.

>

> >

> >

> > As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also

> > say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world

> > policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into

> > ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and

> > could even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys.

> > Only allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> > after multiple attempts ( note document multiple attempts so lawyers don't

> > sue you ) divert to nearest funeral home.

> >

> > This policy will save money for private and tax supported services. Also

> > perhaps we can allow contracts be established with funeral homes to help

> > earn even more money. And again to avoid appearance of conflict of interest

> > and law suits document multiple attempts of asking if breathing.

> >

> > And to ensure quality medical ummm I mean quality driving sklls all

> > ambulance drivers will attend the Petty racing experience.

> >

> > So now are you all happy? I am willing to just continue working to see the

> > collapse of EMS with the masses.

> >

> > If you can not see the sarcasm dripping from the above enjoy bashing me as

> > it means you edumacated folks ar leaving some other poor ignorant backwuds

> > ful alon. ( spelling bad as I'm not smart enough to spell check )

> >

> > %(

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad at least someone else said it first. I don't think that we're

really doing any service to the majority of patients that we're seeing

(transporting.) The death of the paramedic is directly correlated to

the concept that every patient needs an ALS level of care. Instead of

people getting " better " care due to more availability of paramedics,

we're getting -more- paramedics, and we're finding that these people

(for some reason, which does not have to be directly attributed to the

individual) can't provide good ALS care. As a result, we're taking

away " higher levels " of ALS care from everyone. Eventually we're going

to dumb it down to the level of the EMT again.

ly, my opinion for the last several years is that we need to give

up. Stop worrying about the paramedic and figure out what the level -

above- the paramedic in the prehospital system is going to be. Whether

it's " advanced care paramedic " or " paramedic II " I could care less,

but we should get out in front of that movement and control it before

someone else does. Establish appropriate minimum standards and ensure

they become code. I -hate- this outcome because it's more in the

" dumbing down of America " in the same way a high school diploma

doesn't mean anything anymore, you must have a bachelor's degree; or

in order to be considered " educated " you better be hanging a Master's

degree (or even better, your doctorate) on the wall. However, we have

to deal with reality. It's easier to dumb something down then to

smarten it up.

Austin

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> transporting similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> supplys. Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How about the stuff the Brits have on the walk in C-Spine Patients?

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> transporting similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair@... writes:

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> supplys. Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

[Guest guest]

" ...dumb it down to the level of the EMT... "

I'm sure that many of us EMTs appreciate that sentiment; particularly

those of us who have advanced degrees.

Seriously, I think you make a good point in that not every patient needs

ALS skills or an ALS truck. Some patients only require a BLS level of

care, and that's okay. In a perfect world we could offer both levels of

care so that our advance levels of care could be free from being tied up

with BLS patients to respond and care for those who need ALS. The

problem is that it's hard to implement a system that can have both

available on a moment's notice depending on the call. While it can be

done, doing it in a cost effective and efficient manner is a totally

different issue.

You also make a good point about needing to raise the standards.

However, until we get where EMS is a homogenous population that will be

extremely difficult to achieve as there are too many conflicting

interests to have a single voice. Private vs. Public. FD vs. Non-FD.

Public health vs. Public safety. Urban vs. Rural vs. Frontier. Career

vs. Volunteer (though I think the volunteers will step up to higher

educational standards for advance care as long as they have access to

the education). We're not like nursing or medicine where all nurses and

physicians have the same training and core medical standards. If we can

ever get to have that single mindset, or Hedgehog Concept as Jim

(Good to Great) puts it, then we can make some of the barriers that we

are not facing go the way of the half ring.

Barry

Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES

Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator

Substance Abuse Services Unit

Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division

________________________________

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of A Austin

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:22 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

I'm glad at least someone else said it first. I don't think that we're

really doing any service to the majority of patients that we're seeing

(transporting.) The death of the paramedic is directly correlated to

the concept that every patient needs an ALS level of care. Instead of

people getting " better " care due to more availability of paramedics,

we're getting -more- paramedics, and we're finding that these people

(for some reason, which does not have to be directly attributed to the

individual) can't provide good ALS care. As a result, we're taking

away " higher levels " of ALS care from everyone. Eventually we're going

to dumb it down to the level of the EMT again.

ly, my opinion for the last several years is that we need to give

up. Stop worrying about the paramedic and figure out what the level -

above- the paramedic in the prehospital system is going to be. Whether

it's " advanced care paramedic " or " paramedic II " I could care less,

but we should get out in front of that movement and control it before

someone else does. Establish appropriate minimum standards and ensure

they become code. I -hate- this outcome because it's more in the

" dumbing down of America " in the same way a high school diploma

doesn't mean anything anymore, you must have a bachelor's degree; or

in order to be considered " educated " you better be hanging a Master's

degree (or even better, your doctorate) on the wall. However, we have

to deal with reality. It's easier to dumb something down then to

smarten it up.

Austin

On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:56 AM, krin135@...

wrote:

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> transporting similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> supplys. Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A while back, the NR actually did an educational survey and found that EMTs were

the group of EMS providers most likely to have an advanced degree, primarily

because of the amount of volunteer BLS organizations out there. So, yes, it's

possible that an EMT may actually be a rocket scientist.

-Wes Ogilvie

Re: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

I'm glad at least someone else said it first. I don't think that we're

really doing any service to the majority of patients that we're seeing

(transporting.) The death of the paramedic is directly correlated to

the concept that every patient needs an ALS level of care. Instead of

people getting " better " care due to more availability of paramedics,

we're getting -more- paramedics, and we're finding that these people

(for some reason, which does not have to be directly attributed to the

individual) can't provide good ALS care. As a result, we're taking

away " higher levels " of ALS care from everyone. Eventually we're going

to dumb it down to the level of the EMT again.

ly, my opinion for the last several years is that we need to give

up. Stop worrying about the paramedic and figure out what the level -

above- the paramedic in the prehospital system is going to be. Whether

it's " advanced care paramedic " or " paramedic II " I could care less,

but we should get out in front of that movement and control it before

someone else does. Establish appropriate minimum standards and ensure

they become code. I -hate- this outcome because it's more in the

" dumbing down of America " in the same way a high school diploma

doesn't mean anything anymore, you must have a bachelor's degree; or

in order to be considered " educated " you better be hanging a Master's

degree (or even better, your doctorate) on the wall. However, we have

to deal with reality. It's easier to dumb something down then to

smarten it up.

Austin

On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:56 AM, krin135@...

wrote:

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> transporting similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> supplys. Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Austin.

I prefer to decide if a person is educated rather by thier actions not

thier degrees. That makes more sense to me as I've met some really

stupid folks with lots of degrees.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Nov 2, 2009, at 13:22, A Austin abaustin+yahoogroups@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm glad at least someone else said it first. I don't think that we're

> really doing any service to the majority of patients that we're seeing

> (transporting.) The death of the paramedic is directly correlated to

> the concept that every patient needs an ALS level of care. Instead of

> people getting " better " care due to more availability of paramedics,

> we're getting -more- paramedics, and we're finding that these people

> (for some reason, which does not have to be directly attributed to the

> individual) can't provide good ALS care. As a result, we're taking

> away " higher levels " of ALS care from everyone. Eventually we're going

> to dumb it down to the level of the EMT again.

>

> ly, my opinion for the last several years is that we need to give

> up. Stop worrying about the paramedic and figure out what the level -

> above- the paramedic in the prehospital system is going to be. Whether

> it's " advanced care paramedic " or " paramedic II " I could care less,

> but we should get out in front of that movement and control it before

> someone else does. Establish appropriate minimum standards and ensure

> they become code. I -hate- this outcome because it's more in the

> " dumbing down of America " in the same way a high school diploma

> doesn't mean anything anymore, you must have a bachelor's degree; or

> in order to be considered " educated " you better be hanging a Master's

> degree (or even better, your doctorate) on the wall. However, we have

> to deal with reality. It's easier to dumb something down then to

> smarten it up.

>

> Austin

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> > the

> > patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> > transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> > transporting similar

> > patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American

> style

> > ambulance?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> > spenair@... writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> > also

> > say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> > world

> > policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> > patient into

> > ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> > and could

> > even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> > supplys. Only

> > allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no

> response

> > after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In fact NASA has at least 3 I know of at the Goddard Space Center in MD.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

>

> A while back, the NR actually did an educational survey and found

> that EMTs were the group of EMS providers most likely to have an

> advanced degree, primarily because of the amount of volunteer BLS

> organizations out there. So, yes, it's possible that an EMT may

> actually be a rocket scientist.

>

> -Wes Ogilvie

>

> Re: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

>

> I'm glad at least someone else said it first. I don't think that we're

> really doing any service to the majority of patients that we're seeing

> (transporting.) The death of the paramedic is directly correlated to

> the concept that every patient needs an ALS level of care. Instead of

> people getting " better " care due to more availability of paramedics,

> we're getting -more- paramedics, and we're finding that these people

> (for some reason, which does not have to be directly attributed to the

> individual) can't provide good ALS care. As a result, we're taking

> away " higher levels " of ALS care from everyone. Eventually we're going

> to dumb it down to the level of the EMT again.

>

> ly, my opinion for the last several years is that we need to give

> up. Stop worrying about the paramedic and figure out what the level -

> above- the paramedic in the prehospital system is going to be. Whether

> it's " advanced care paramedic " or " paramedic II " I could care less,

> but we should get out in front of that movement and control it before

> someone else does. Establish appropriate minimum standards and ensure

> they become code. I -hate- this outcome because it's more in the

> " dumbing down of America " in the same way a high school diploma

> doesn't mean anything anymore, you must have a bachelor's degree; or

> in order to be considered " educated " you better be hanging a Master's

> degree (or even better, your doctorate) on the wall. However, we have

> to deal with reality. It's easier to dumb something down then to

> smarten it up.

>

> Austin

>

> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:56 AM, krin135@...

>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> > the

> > patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> > transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> > transporting similar

> > patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American

> style

> > ambulance?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> > spenair@... writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> > also

> > say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> > world

> > policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> > patient into

> > ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> > and could

> > even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> > supplys. Only

> > allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no

> response

> > after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually more than 1 study has concluded that and not just for backboarding.

Many of the things done in EMS have proven of no real benefit yet are still done

because of no other reason than thats the way its always been done. Sadly

though I joked of third worlds being behind the US some actually have already

passed US in pre hospital care.

So snark away my friend snark away.

>

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as transporting

similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys. Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds reasonable.  I'm a volunteer EMT and I'm NOT a rocket scientist.

 

I am, however, a nuclear physicist / engineer.

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing

> the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> transporting similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair (AT) yahoo (DOT) com writes:

>

>

>

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I

> also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd

> world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw

> patient into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any

> supplys. Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yup, and let's not forget the infamous " Los Angles taxicab study. "

krin135@... wrote:

>

>

>

> you do know that there is *at least* one study showing that throwing the

> patient in the back of a pick up truck is *at least as safe* for the

> transportation of patients with suspected c spine injuries as

> transporting similar

> patients 'in full board' in the back of a full fledged American style

> ambulance?

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2009 10:07:26 Central Standard Time,

> spenair@... writes:

>

> As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also

> say since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world

> policy of just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient

> into

> ambulance and then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy

> and could

> even be special designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys.

> Only

> allowed patient care is to ask are you still breathing. If no response

> after multiple attempts ( note document multiple

>

>

[Guest guest]

My thoughts exactly!

L. Gaines

jlgatc@...

To: texasems-l

From: spenair@...

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:14 +0000

Subject: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also say

since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world policy of

just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into ambulance and

then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and could even be special

designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys. Only allowed patient care

is to ask are you still breathing. If no response after multiple attempts ( note

document multiple attempts so lawyers don't sue you ) divert to nearest funeral

home.

This policy will save money for private and tax supported services. Also perhaps

we can allow contracts be established with funeral homes to help earn even more

money. And again to avoid appearance of conflict of interest and law suits

document multiple attempts of asking if breathing.

And to ensure quality medical ummm I mean quality driving sklls all ambulance

drivers will attend the Petty racing experience.

So now are you all happy? I am willing to just continue working to see the

collapse of EMS with the masses.

If you can not see the sarcasm dripping from the above enjoy bashing me as it

means you edumacated folks ar leaving some other poor ignorant backwuds ful

alon. ( spelling bad as I'm not smart enough to spell check )

%(

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[Guest guest]

My thoughts exactly!

L. Gaines

jlgatc@...

To: texasems-l

From: spenair@...

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:14 +0000

Subject: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also say

since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world policy of

just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into ambulance and

then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and could even be special

designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys. Only allowed patient care

is to ask are you still breathing. If no response after multiple attempts ( note

document multiple attempts so lawyers don't sue you ) divert to nearest funeral

home.

This policy will save money for private and tax supported services. Also perhaps

we can allow contracts be established with funeral homes to help earn even more

money. And again to avoid appearance of conflict of interest and law suits

document multiple attempts of asking if breathing.

And to ensure quality medical ummm I mean quality driving sklls all ambulance

drivers will attend the Petty racing experience.

So now are you all happy? I am willing to just continue working to see the

collapse of EMS with the masses.

If you can not see the sarcasm dripping from the above enjoy bashing me as it

means you edumacated folks ar leaving some other poor ignorant backwuds ful

alon. ( spelling bad as I'm not smart enough to spell check )

%(

_________________________________________________________________

New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you.

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[Guest guest]

My thoughts exactly!

L. Gaines

jlgatc@...

To: texasems-l

From: spenair@...

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:14 +0000

Subject: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also say

since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world policy of

just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into ambulance and

then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and could even be special

designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys. Only allowed patient care

is to ask are you still breathing. If no response after multiple attempts ( note

document multiple attempts so lawyers don't sue you ) divert to nearest funeral

home.

This policy will save money for private and tax supported services. Also perhaps

we can allow contracts be established with funeral homes to help earn even more

money. And again to avoid appearance of conflict of interest and law suits

document multiple attempts of asking if breathing.

And to ensure quality medical ummm I mean quality driving sklls all ambulance

drivers will attend the Petty racing experience.

So now are you all happy? I am willing to just continue working to see the

collapse of EMS with the masses.

If you can not see the sarcasm dripping from the above enjoy bashing me as it

means you edumacated folks ar leaving some other poor ignorant backwuds ful

alon. ( spelling bad as I'm not smart enough to spell check )

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G---- und I thut this wuz troo stuff! Uh meen, I thut u wuz tellun me sum noo

infoumayshun.

Subject: Proposed New EMS Transport Methods

To: texasems-l

Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

As I have seen the errors of my ways I say we transport everyone. I also say

since we are to uneducated to do anything that we adopt the 3rd world policy of

just having a driver recruit citizens to help throw patient into ambulance and

then just drive. Ambulance can be much cheaper to buy and could even be special

designed sports car as it will not carry any supplys. Only allowed patient care

is to ask are you still breathing. If no response after multiple attempts ( note

document multiple attempts so lawyers don't sue you ) divert to nearest funeral

home.

This policy will save money for private and tax supported services. Also perhaps

we can allow contracts be established with funeral homes to help earn even more

money. And again to avoid appearance of conflict of interest and law suits

document multiple attempts of asking if breathing.

And to ensure quality medical ummm I mean quality driving sklls all ambulance

drivers will attend the Petty racing experience.

So now are you all happy? I am willing to just continue working to see the

collapse of EMS with the masses.

If you can not see the sarcasm dripping from the above enjoy bashing me as it

means you edumacated folks ar leaving some other poor ignorant backwuds ful

alon. ( spelling bad as I'm not smart enough to spell check )

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