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Dear - We take all the prayers we can get! Thank you so much

for responding. I have been thinking about you lately. My 41 year

old niece has just been diagnosed with sarcoidosis. She is a vibrant

young mother with children in high, middle and elementary schools.

She has cut her schedule way back and is trying to have a less

stressful life, but this is not easy.

Hope you are doing well - Joanie

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> From: bud_kilmon

> Subject: Bud fainted

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello old friends and new friends -

> My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down in

his

> seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after a 2

> hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

experience

> with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his

nose,

> so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the

> cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little

good.

> There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose was

> bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left. By

the

> time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some, but

the

> mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must say

he

> has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm,

> continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

depending

> on what we are doing.

> Thanks in advance for caring -

> Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

>

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Joanie... is he in big house too or at home? Is he doing ok today?

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Bud fainted> > > To: Breathe-Support > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello old friends and new friends -> > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down in > his > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after a > 2 > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have > experience > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his > nose, > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little > good. > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose was > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left. By > the > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some, but > the > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must > say he > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm, > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator > depending > > > on what we are doing.> > > Thanks in advance for caring -> > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007> > >> >>

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Joanie... is he in big house too or at home? Is he doing ok today?

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Bud fainted> > > To: Breathe-Support > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello old friends and new friends -> > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down in > his > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after a > 2 > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have > experience > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his > nose, > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little > good. > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose was > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left. By > the > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some, but > the > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must > say he > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm, > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator > depending > > > on what we are doing.> > > Thanks in advance for caring -> > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007> > >> >>

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Joanie... is he in big house too or at home? Is he doing ok today?

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Bud fainted> > > To: Breathe-Support > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello old friends and new friends -> > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down in > his > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after a > 2 > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have > experience > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his > nose, > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little > good. > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose was > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left. By > the > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some, but > the > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must > say he > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm, > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator > depending > > > on what we are doing.> > > Thanks in advance for caring -> > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007> > >> >>

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Joanie, When I saw Bud was on 10 L I remembered about the

concentrators that go to 10L. If you put it up beyond the 10 line it

isn't pulling 02 its just regular air. Any of our regulators or

concentrators shouldn't be used beyond the hi limit line.

Peggy

PS.. I just may be bustin out of here in a bit. FULL of holes but

home will be nice.

> > > >

> > > > From: bud_kilmon bud_kilmon@

> > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down

> in

> > his

> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after

> a 2

> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> experience

> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his

> > nose,

> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the

> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little

> good.

> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose

> was

> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left.

> By

> > the

> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some,

> but the

> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must

> say

> > he

> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm,

> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> depending

> > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Joanie, When I saw Bud was on 10 L I remembered about the

concentrators that go to 10L. If you put it up beyond the 10 line it

isn't pulling 02 its just regular air. Any of our regulators or

concentrators shouldn't be used beyond the hi limit line.

Peggy

PS.. I just may be bustin out of here in a bit. FULL of holes but

home will be nice.

> > > >

> > > > From: bud_kilmon bud_kilmon@

> > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down

> in

> > his

> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after

> a 2

> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> experience

> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his

> > nose,

> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the

> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little

> good.

> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose

> was

> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left.

> By

> > the

> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some,

> but the

> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must

> say

> > he

> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm,

> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> depending

> > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Joanie, When I saw Bud was on 10 L I remembered about the

concentrators that go to 10L. If you put it up beyond the 10 line it

isn't pulling 02 its just regular air. Any of our regulators or

concentrators shouldn't be used beyond the hi limit line.

Peggy

PS.. I just may be bustin out of here in a bit. FULL of holes but

home will be nice.

> > > >

> > > > From: bud_kilmon bud_kilmon@

> > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down

> in

> > his

> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after

> a 2

> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> experience

> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his

> > nose,

> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the

> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little

> good.

> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose

> was

> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left.

> By

> > the

> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some,

> but the

> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must

> say

> > he

> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm,

> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> depending

> > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Peggy - Thank you so much for that good information on going

beyond the 10 line on the concentrator.. WOW - glad you clicked your

sparkly red heels - because there's no place like home!

Joanie

> > > > >

> > > > > From: bud_kilmon bud_kilmon@

> > > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped

down

> > in

> > > his

> > > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house

after

> > a 2

> > > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> > experience

> > > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of

his

> > > nose,

> > > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried

putting the

> > > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did

little

> > good.

> > > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his

nose

> > was

> > > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands

left.

> > By

> > > the

> > > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing

some,

> > but the

> > > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I

must

> > say

> > > he

> > > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8

lpm,

> > > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> > depending

> > > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Peggy - Thank you so much for that good information on going

beyond the 10 line on the concentrator.. WOW - glad you clicked your

sparkly red heels - because there's no place like home!

Joanie

> > > > >

> > > > > From: bud_kilmon bud_kilmon@

> > > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped

down

> > in

> > > his

> > > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house

after

> > a 2

> > > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> > experience

> > > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of

his

> > > nose,

> > > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried

putting the

> > > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did

little

> > good.

> > > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his

nose

> > was

> > > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands

left.

> > By

> > > the

> > > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing

some,

> > but the

> > > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I

must

> > say

> > > he

> > > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8

lpm,

> > > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> > depending

> > > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Peggy - Thank you so much for that good information on going

beyond the 10 line on the concentrator.. WOW - glad you clicked your

sparkly red heels - because there's no place like home!

Joanie

> > > > >

> > > > > From: bud_kilmon bud_kilmon@

> > > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped

down

> > in

> > > his

> > > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house

after

> > a 2

> > > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> > experience

> > > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of

his

> > > nose,

> > > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried

putting the

> > > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did

little

> > good.

> > > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his

nose

> > was

> > > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands

left.

> > By

> > > the

> > > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing

some,

> > but the

> > > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I

must

> > say

> > > he

> > > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8

lpm,

> > > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> > depending

> > > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Mama Sher - Bud is in our little house in the big woods.

Joanie

> > > >

> > > > From: bud_kilmon

> > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped

> down in

> > his

> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house

> after a

> > 2

> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> > experience

> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of

> his

> > nose,

> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried

putting

> the

> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did

> little

> > good.

> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his

nose

> was

> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands

> left. By

> > the

> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing

some,

> but

> > the

> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I

> must

> > say he

> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8

lpm,

> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> > depending

> > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Mama Sher - Bud is in our little house in the big woods.

Joanie

> > > >

> > > > From: bud_kilmon

> > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped

> down in

> > his

> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house

> after a

> > 2

> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> > experience

> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of

> his

> > nose,

> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried

putting

> the

> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did

> little

> > good.

> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his

nose

> was

> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands

> left. By

> > the

> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing

some,

> but

> > the

> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I

> must

> > say he

> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8

lpm,

> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> > depending

> > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Mama Sher - Bud is in our little house in the big woods.

Joanie

> > > >

> > > > From: bud_kilmon

> > > > Subject: Bud fainted

> > > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -

> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped

> down in

> > his

> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house

> after a

> > 2

> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have

> > experience

> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of

> his

> > nose,

> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried

putting

> the

> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did

> little

> > good.

> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his

nose

> was

> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands

> left. By

> > the

> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing

some,

> but

> > the

> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I

> must

> > say he

> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a

> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8

lpm,

> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator

> > depending

> > > > on what we are doing.

> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -

> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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-- Bud fainted> > > > To: Breathe-Support > > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:12 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello old friends and new friends -> > > > My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down > in> > his> > > > seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after > a 2> > > > hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have > experience> > > > with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his> > nose,> > > > so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the> > > > cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little > good.> > > > There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose > was> > > > bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left. > By> > the> > > > time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some, > but the> > > > mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must > say> > he> > > > has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a> > > > prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm,> > > > continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator > depending> > > > on what we are doing.> > > > Thanks in advance for caring -> > > > Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007> > > >> > >> >>

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another quality of life issue:

3 steps and he fainted

it looks so easy, but what it does to us!!!

I don't think anyone else could understand that something so simple could be so difficult

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: Bud faintedTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 8:32 AM

Joanie,

I'm so sorry that this happened to you and Bud. I can only imagine how frightening it was for you. The only time I ever fainted was before I was diagnosed. It happened while I was at work in the middle of a meeting...lots of drama.

You did exactly the right thing putting the cannula in his mouth. Some oxygen is better than none. I agree that asking the doctor about a mask is a good idea. Maybe he needs just a little more when doing something like climbing stairs. It's such a guessing game.

In the meantime try to get yourself some rest in the midst of taking care of Bud. Give each other hugs for me!

Beth in North Carolina

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From: bud_kilmon <bud_kilmon (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:12:21 PMSubject: Bud fainted

Hello old friends and new friends -My husband, Bud, fainted yesterday, luckily as he plopped down in his seated walker. He had just climbed 3 steps into our house after a 2 hour car ride. Was just too much for him. Any of you have experience with fainting? When he bent forward his cannula came out of his nose, so while holding him up, trying to call 911, I tried putting the cannula in his mouth, but his mouth was open and it did little good. There was no way I could put it back in his nose, as his nose was bleeding, and I was holding him up and just had no hands left. By the time the ambulance arrived he was cogent and breathing some, but the mask they put on him really helped. It was a nightmare. I must say he has not fully recovered yet. I have asked his doctor for a prescription for a mask. Anybody use a mask? Bud is on 8 lpm, continuous flow. We use liquid, e-tanks and a concentrator depending

on what we are doing.Thanks in advance for caring -Joanie who loves Bud in Southern land, IPF 2006, PH 2007

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