Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 I don't know if any of you have seen on UKParents there is a forum dedicated to Infant Potty Training, which advocates potty training from around 4-5 months, mostly by timing - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. Another of the principles is why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty - as I said I found it all fascinating. Personally I've put my son on his potty for number two's ever since he could sit unaided (we get loads of notice of an impending poo!) - cos I figured who wants to clear up a pooey nappy and butt, when you can easily sit them on a pot, give him a book (BTW the books to read!!!!!)and bobs your uncle so to speak! - I thought it would be much pleasenter for him and me - and funnily enough he does now seem to associate his potty with doing a poo and will clap his hands to go, clap while he's doing it and clap when he's done! The other reason I started it was because I have friends with 2/3 year olds who scream blue murder and won't go near the potty - so I though my introducing it early might hopefully avoid this problem. Any thoughts? Joanne King SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00 Minute Secretary Colchester & District Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 I don't know if any of you have seen on UKParents there is a forum dedicated to Infant Potty Training, which advocates potty training from around 4-5 months, mostly by timing - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. Another of the principles is why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty - as I said I found it all fascinating. Personally I've put my son on his potty for number two's ever since he could sit unaided (we get loads of notice of an impending poo!) - cos I figured who wants to clear up a pooey nappy and butt, when you can easily sit them on a pot, give him a book (BTW the books to read!!!!!)and bobs your uncle so to speak! - I thought it would be much pleasenter for him and me - and funnily enough he does now seem to associate his potty with doing a poo and will clap his hands to go, clap while he's doing it and clap when he's done! The other reason I started it was because I have friends with 2/3 year olds who scream blue murder and won't go near the potty - so I though my introducing it early might hopefully avoid this problem. Any thoughts? Joanne King SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00 Minute Secretary Colchester & District Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 I don't know if any of you have seen on UKParents there is a forum dedicated to Infant Potty Training, which advocates potty training from around 4-5 months, mostly by timing - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. Another of the principles is why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty - as I said I found it all fascinating. Personally I've put my son on his potty for number two's ever since he could sit unaided (we get loads of notice of an impending poo!) - cos I figured who wants to clear up a pooey nappy and butt, when you can easily sit them on a pot, give him a book (BTW the books to read!!!!!)and bobs your uncle so to speak! - I thought it would be much pleasenter for him and me - and funnily enough he does now seem to associate his potty with doing a poo and will clap his hands to go, clap while he's doing it and clap when he's done! The other reason I started it was because I have friends with 2/3 year olds who scream blue murder and won't go near the potty - so I though my introducing it early might hopefully avoid this problem. Any thoughts? Joanne King SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00 Minute Secretary Colchester & District Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 >>>why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty >>> It's a bit tricky this one. I'm all for leaving potty training as late as possible, until they grasp the concept themselves. But I'm now having major struggle trying to make DD understand it's any better to do 'it' in the potty than a nappy - I'm struggling for reasons that would make sense to her! If she's naked or has just pants on (no trousers etc) she will usually run to the potty (ie she's realised it's not a good idea doing it on the floor), but she will quite often ask to have a nappy on and who can blame her - then you don't have to run in the middle of a funny video... Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). She's used to crawling up on her rug when she does a poo (this is with a nappy on :-)) and she just doesn't find it comfortable to sit on a potty. I read somewhere it's not 'natural' anyway, that the body would prefer squatting to sitting when doing a poo (sorry, this is a bit graphical, but no other way to explain it!). Bit bored of having to put a nappy on her every time, but as I said - I can't find any logical reason to refuse (don't particularly like the reason 'because I said so'! Karina Mum to Emilia (Oct 98) and Sebastian (Aug 00) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 >>>why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty >>> It's a bit tricky this one. I'm all for leaving potty training as late as possible, until they grasp the concept themselves. But I'm now having major struggle trying to make DD understand it's any better to do 'it' in the potty than a nappy - I'm struggling for reasons that would make sense to her! If she's naked or has just pants on (no trousers etc) she will usually run to the potty (ie she's realised it's not a good idea doing it on the floor), but she will quite often ask to have a nappy on and who can blame her - then you don't have to run in the middle of a funny video... Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). She's used to crawling up on her rug when she does a poo (this is with a nappy on :-)) and she just doesn't find it comfortable to sit on a potty. I read somewhere it's not 'natural' anyway, that the body would prefer squatting to sitting when doing a poo (sorry, this is a bit graphical, but no other way to explain it!). Bit bored of having to put a nappy on her every time, but as I said - I can't find any logical reason to refuse (don't particularly like the reason 'because I said so'! Karina Mum to Emilia (Oct 98) and Sebastian (Aug 00) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 >>>why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty >>> It's a bit tricky this one. I'm all for leaving potty training as late as possible, until they grasp the concept themselves. But I'm now having major struggle trying to make DD understand it's any better to do 'it' in the potty than a nappy - I'm struggling for reasons that would make sense to her! If she's naked or has just pants on (no trousers etc) she will usually run to the potty (ie she's realised it's not a good idea doing it on the floor), but she will quite often ask to have a nappy on and who can blame her - then you don't have to run in the middle of a funny video... Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). She's used to crawling up on her rug when she does a poo (this is with a nappy on :-)) and she just doesn't find it comfortable to sit on a potty. I read somewhere it's not 'natural' anyway, that the body would prefer squatting to sitting when doing a poo (sorry, this is a bit graphical, but no other way to explain it!). Bit bored of having to put a nappy on her every time, but as I said - I can't find any logical reason to refuse (don't particularly like the reason 'because I said so'! Karina Mum to Emilia (Oct 98) and Sebastian (Aug 00) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 I have often wondered (sad person that I am) what people did in the olden days about nappies. Did they have rows of them drying out all over their peasant hovels for two years per child or did they train them much earlier? Francesca Re: early potty training > I don't know if any of you have seen on UKParents there is a forum dedicated to Infant Potty Training, which advocates potty training from around 4-5 months, mostly by timing - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. > > Another of the principles is why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty - as I said I found it all fascinating. > > Personally I've put my son on his potty for number two's ever since he could sit unaided (we get loads of notice of an impending poo!) - cos I figured who wants to clear up a pooey nappy and butt, when you can easily sit them on a pot, give him a book (BTW the books to read!!!!!)and bobs your uncle so to speak! - I thought it would be much pleasenter for him and me - and funnily enough he does now seem to associate his potty with doing a poo and will clap his hands to go, clap while he's doing it and clap when he's done! > > The other reason I started it was because I have friends with 2/3 year olds who scream blue murder and won't go near the potty - so I though my introducing it early might hopefully avoid this problem. > > Any thoughts? > > Joanne King > SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00 > Minute Secretary Colchester & District > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 I have often wondered (sad person that I am) what people did in the olden days about nappies. Did they have rows of them drying out all over their peasant hovels for two years per child or did they train them much earlier? Francesca Re: early potty training > I don't know if any of you have seen on UKParents there is a forum dedicated to Infant Potty Training, which advocates potty training from around 4-5 months, mostly by timing - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. > > Another of the principles is why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty - as I said I found it all fascinating. > > Personally I've put my son on his potty for number two's ever since he could sit unaided (we get loads of notice of an impending poo!) - cos I figured who wants to clear up a pooey nappy and butt, when you can easily sit them on a pot, give him a book (BTW the books to read!!!!!)and bobs your uncle so to speak! - I thought it would be much pleasenter for him and me - and funnily enough he does now seem to associate his potty with doing a poo and will clap his hands to go, clap while he's doing it and clap when he's done! > > The other reason I started it was because I have friends with 2/3 year olds who scream blue murder and won't go near the potty - so I though my introducing it early might hopefully avoid this problem. > > Any thoughts? > > Joanne King > SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00 > Minute Secretary Colchester & District > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 I have often wondered (sad person that I am) what people did in the olden days about nappies. Did they have rows of them drying out all over their peasant hovels for two years per child or did they train them much earlier? Francesca Re: early potty training > I don't know if any of you have seen on UKParents there is a forum dedicated to Infant Potty Training, which advocates potty training from around 4-5 months, mostly by timing - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. > > Another of the principles is why are we teaching children it's alright to go to the toilet in a nappy for 2/3 years and then saying no it's not right anymore you have to do it on the potty - as I said I found it all fascinating. > > Personally I've put my son on his potty for number two's ever since he could sit unaided (we get loads of notice of an impending poo!) - cos I figured who wants to clear up a pooey nappy and butt, when you can easily sit them on a pot, give him a book (BTW the books to read!!!!!)and bobs your uncle so to speak! - I thought it would be much pleasenter for him and me - and funnily enough he does now seem to associate his potty with doing a poo and will clap his hands to go, clap while he's doing it and clap when he's done! > > The other reason I started it was because I have friends with 2/3 year olds who scream blue murder and won't go near the potty - so I though my introducing it early might hopefully avoid this problem. > > Any thoughts? > > Joanne King > SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00 > Minute Secretary Colchester & District > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > I have often wondered (sad person that I am) what people did in the > olden days about nappies. Did they have rows of them drying out all > over their peasant hovels for two years per child or did they train > them much earlier? They trained them much earlier! Some tales of babies being held over potties from birth to get them trained and things like that. perhaps we *are* too soft these days! Caroline DS1 trained in a week at 3.1 years DS2 trained-ish by 3.6..and still moist at 4.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > I have often wondered (sad person that I am) what people did in the > olden days about nappies. Did they have rows of them drying out all > over their peasant hovels for two years per child or did they train > them much earlier? They trained them much earlier! Some tales of babies being held over potties from birth to get them trained and things like that. perhaps we *are* too soft these days! Caroline DS1 trained in a week at 3.1 years DS2 trained-ish by 3.6..and still moist at 4.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > I have often wondered (sad person that I am) what people did in the > olden days about nappies. Did they have rows of them drying out all > over their peasant hovels for two years per child or did they train > them much earlier? They trained them much earlier! Some tales of babies being held over potties from birth to get them trained and things like that. perhaps we *are* too soft these days! Caroline DS1 trained in a week at 3.1 years DS2 trained-ish by 3.6..and still moist at 4.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). Have you tried lining the potty with a nappy so that she has the security of the nappy without actually wearing it? Lynda SAHM to (8), (5), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00) Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch Area Rep, Region 7 www.familygarland.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). She's used to crawling up on her rug when she does a poo (this is with a nappy on :-)) and she just doesn't find it comfortable to sit on a potty. > I remember Lawrie being the same when potty training - poos took longer because he wasn't comfortable on a normal potty. We solved the problem by getting one of those high sided potty chairs from Mothercare. He felt much more secure and comfortable on it - may be worth a try! Hannah, 27 Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 3 months Visit me on the web at :- http://hannahshome.20m.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). She's used to crawling up on her rug when she does a poo (this is with a nappy on :-)) and she just doesn't find it comfortable to sit on a potty. > I remember Lawrie being the same when potty training - poos took longer because he wasn't comfortable on a normal potty. We solved the problem by getting one of those high sided potty chairs from Mothercare. He felt much more secure and comfortable on it - may be worth a try! Hannah, 27 Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 3 months Visit me on the web at :- http://hannahshome.20m.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > Also she is totally and completely refusing to do a poo in the potty and will specifically ask to get a nappy on instead, or she just wont do it (think it even makes her constipated). She's used to crawling up on her rug when she does a poo (this is with a nappy on :-)) and she just doesn't find it comfortable to sit on a potty. > I remember Lawrie being the same when potty training - poos took longer because he wasn't comfortable on a normal potty. We solved the problem by getting one of those high sided potty chairs from Mothercare. He felt much more secure and comfortable on it - may be worth a try! Hannah, 27 Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 3 months Visit me on the web at :- http://hannahshome.20m.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 When I was in India a couple of years ago the babies of some better off families had disps but most babies had bare botts, even ones just a few months old. The babies are carried in a sitting position on the forearm, near the elbow (hard to describe!!) with some fabric underneath as a pad. As far as I could tell, when the baby began weeing the parent would feel the initial dampness and then hold the baby out over a gutter to finish urinating. Presumably the same happened with poos when they saw the baby developing that faraway look in its eyes and a red face!! Lesley ----------- From: fab131 Francesca - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 When I was in India a couple of years ago the babies of some better off families had disps but most babies had bare botts, even ones just a few months old. The babies are carried in a sitting position on the forearm, near the elbow (hard to describe!!) with some fabric underneath as a pad. As far as I could tell, when the baby began weeing the parent would feel the initial dampness and then hold the baby out over a gutter to finish urinating. Presumably the same happened with poos when they saw the baby developing that faraway look in its eyes and a red face!! Lesley ----------- From: fab131 Francesca - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 When I was in India a couple of years ago the babies of some better off families had disps but most babies had bare botts, even ones just a few months old. The babies are carried in a sitting position on the forearm, near the elbow (hard to describe!!) with some fabric underneath as a pad. As far as I could tell, when the baby began weeing the parent would feel the initial dampness and then hold the baby out over a gutter to finish urinating. Presumably the same happened with poos when they saw the baby developing that faraway look in its eyes and a red face!! Lesley ----------- From: fab131 Francesca - personally I found it really interesting because apparently it comes from countries were sanitation is not up to our standards or drying nappies isn't practical - ie. India? and Eskimos (were do they come from?) - were I could see it it's a good idea and they reckon by using timing, and it's not about the tie them to the potty principle - they understand about needing to use the toilet really early and are often dry in teh day by 12 months and dry at night by 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 > When I was in India a couple of years ago the babies of some better > off families had disps but most babies had bare botts, even ones just > a few months old. I have been told that in China? babies do not wear nappies, but have crotchless clothes with an opening underneath. Lynda SAHM to (8), (5), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00) Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch Area Rep, Region 7 www.familygarland.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 > When I was in India a couple of years ago the babies of some better > off families had disps but most babies had bare botts, even ones just > a few months old. I have been told that in China? babies do not wear nappies, but have crotchless clothes with an opening underneath. Lynda SAHM to (8), (5), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00) Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch Area Rep, Region 7 www.familygarland.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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