Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 In a message dated 9/26/2002 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, handhranch@... writes: > Well, this is how I look at things God gave > the knowledge to these doctors, scientist etc. to be able to do the things > they do today. > > I agree, Debbie! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 In a message dated 9/26/2002 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, handhranch@... writes: > Well, this is how I look at things God gave > the knowledge to these doctors, scientist etc. to be able to do the things > they do today. > > I agree, Debbie! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 In a message dated 9/26/2002 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, handhranch@... writes: > Well, this is how I look at things God gave > the knowledge to these doctors, scientist etc. to be able to do the things > they do today. > > I agree, Debbie! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 > The 2 babies I'm carrying are test tube babies and I don't think much about > how they were conceived at all although I'll probably tell them someday. > Hi , My sister's two babies are test tube babies. Due to a birth defect in my sister her fallopian tubes never developed. Without those there isn't any way you can *naturally* conceive. The only way my sister could conceive her own biological children was to go with in-vitro fertilization. As for stem cell research, I have to say I'm for it. Who could look someone in the eyes with a dibilitating disease, knowing that stem cells can alleviate their symptoms or even cure them and say " sorry, you can't have that treatment " ? in MA Diagnosed w/Graves, 03/1997 Refusing RAI Treatment!!! Remission from 06/2000 to 07/2002, suspected " hyper " again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 > The 2 babies I'm carrying are test tube babies and I don't think much about > how they were conceived at all although I'll probably tell them someday. > Hi , My sister's two babies are test tube babies. Due to a birth defect in my sister her fallopian tubes never developed. Without those there isn't any way you can *naturally* conceive. The only way my sister could conceive her own biological children was to go with in-vitro fertilization. As for stem cell research, I have to say I'm for it. Who could look someone in the eyes with a dibilitating disease, knowing that stem cells can alleviate their symptoms or even cure them and say " sorry, you can't have that treatment " ? in MA Diagnosed w/Graves, 03/1997 Refusing RAI Treatment!!! Remission from 06/2000 to 07/2002, suspected " hyper " again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 > The 2 babies I'm carrying are test tube babies and I don't think much about > how they were conceived at all although I'll probably tell them someday. > Hi , My sister's two babies are test tube babies. Due to a birth defect in my sister her fallopian tubes never developed. Without those there isn't any way you can *naturally* conceive. The only way my sister could conceive her own biological children was to go with in-vitro fertilization. As for stem cell research, I have to say I'm for it. Who could look someone in the eyes with a dibilitating disease, knowing that stem cells can alleviate their symptoms or even cure them and say " sorry, you can't have that treatment " ? in MA Diagnosed w/Graves, 03/1997 Refusing RAI Treatment!!! Remission from 06/2000 to 07/2002, suspected " hyper " again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 The 2 babies I'm carrying are test tube babies and I don't think > much about > how they were conceived at all although I'll probably tell them > someday. > Ok, we're getting way off topic here but technically with test tube babies not involving any donors it's still a) the father plus the mother equaling c)a baby. ( I guess this is true re donor parts too but my a+b=c equation is one that I would have no problem sharing with my child when age-appropriate.) I was a kid during the first test tube birth but I don't think there was the issue of countless mutations such as with cloning. Take care, Fay ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 said.... > > The 2 babies I'm carrying are test tube babies and I don't think much about > how they were conceived at all although I'll probably tell them someday. > > Take care, > > My husbands brother and wife have four test tube babies, both had fertility problems, went through years of testing. My mother in law was very upset they did what they did saying it wasn't natural, that if God wanted them to have babies they could have. Well, this is how I look at things God gave the knowledge to these doctors, scientist etc. to be able to do the things they do today. Science never interested me and I still have to like something to enjoy science, but the medical break throughs that have been happening it amazes me and is very interesting. Recently I was reading an article in the newspaper but lost it, so I am looking for some help, Simon, , Jody, Elaine, Pam anyone. It was research for growing new veins for people with vascular problems. It was suppose to be from the New England Journal of medicine I tried looking for it but have found nothing. If someone sees anything on this please forward to me. Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hi Tori- That was a long time ago. I was a very young teenager at the time and I can remember all the adults talking about how awful it was and that they couldn't possibly be real babies if they were made in test tubes (they really used petri dishes). They talked about little Louise like she was a monster. I completely forgot about it until we got onto this cloning thread today. Take care, > I didn't realize they those concerns about test tube babies. In my mind, the > two are worlds apart. Method of conception seems irrelevant to me other than > to suggest how much the babies are wanted. > > In a message dated 9/26/2002 12:17:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hi Tori- I mean if I want to make my own tissues from my own diploid egg (2 copies of DNA) to try to cure my illness, I shouldn't be prevented. No one should be forced to opt for this either. What they can do is take stem cells from this. Expose it to certain cytokines and then it can develop into a certain kind of tissue without it really getting to the embryo stage. It would avoid Simon's dark scenario. In fact, today they were able to make actual teeth using stem cells. Wow! Take care, > What does all this mean in simple terms? > > > > > I have the opinion that it's pretty scary if I'm stopped from putting my own > > skin cell nucleus into my own anucleate egg if I want to. > > > > If there's no conception and it is not allowed to develop to the > > differentiated embryo stage, then I don't want anyone telling me I can't do > > it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Whoops. I meant to clear that message I just sent on test-tube/cloning musings. It was extremely irrelevant and I apologize for clogging email boxes around the world (and for doing so again with this message ;-) Have a great weekend, Fay ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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