Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 This worries me. I am about to start Cynomel (in about a week) and I will also be starting a part-time summer job around the same time and although it's only 6 hours a day, it's the early shift from 6-12 a.m. and I have to be up at 4:30. Is starting the T3 at the same time going to be horrible timing? Amy > > When I started Hc & T3, I was totally somnolent. I think I had been running on adrenaline for so long that my body forgot how it felt to be normal. > > If your temperature are averaging 98.6, I wouldn't be in a rush to raise T3. You may be suffering from adrenaline withdrawal. > > If you temperatures fall. then you'll know it's time for a raise. It does take awhile for the T4 to decay, and for your body to adjust to the new regiment. I tried to enjoy being lazy, and it helped get over this period. > > Ann > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: RT3 <RT3_T3 > > Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:33:29 PM > Subject: OMG - I'm so hypo now > > > I started T3 May 20, had been taking 4 gr. NT and T3 start dose was 12.5, 6.25, 12.5, 6.25. temps were 98 - 98.4ish > On May 23 within 3 days I was feeling so hypo/fatigued I raised dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 6.25. Captured temp @ 98.6 > Could hardly wait 5 days to raise dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 on May 28. temp steady @ 98.6 > > I'm so tired now, back to sleeping until noon with frequent naps during day, as bad as when I was first diagnosed hypo/hashi's. My bp is good, heart rate good, temps captured and adrenals holding steady. > > How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks?? > > > Kem in Eugene > <º)))>< > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I'm taking 30 mg HC, my adrenals are stable according to temp graphs, also I have a pretty laid back stress free lifestyle so running on adrenaline isn't the issue here. I can't function like this, worse hypo than when I was first diagnosed 2 years ago. > > When I started Hc & T3, I was totally somnolent. I think I had been running on adrenaline for so long that my body forgot how it felt to be normal. > > If your temperature are averaging 98.6, I wouldn't be in a rush to raise T3. You may be suffering from adrenaline withdrawal. > > If you temperatures fall. then you'll know it's time for a raise. It does take awhile for the T4 to decay, and for your body to adjust to the new regiment. I tried to enjoy being lazy, and it helped get over this period. > > Ann > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: RT3 <RT3_T3 > > Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:33:29 PM > Subject: OMG - I'm so hypo now > > > I started T3 May 20, had been taking 4 gr. NT and T3 start dose was 12.5, 6.25, 12.5, 6.25. temps were 98 - 98.4ish > On May 23 within 3 days I was feeling so hypo/fatigued I raised dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 6.25. Captured temp @ 98.6 > Could hardly wait 5 days to raise dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 on May 28. temp steady @ 98.6 > > I'm so tired now, back to sleeping until noon with frequent naps during day, as bad as when I was first diagnosed hypo/hashi's. My bp is good, heart rate good, temps captured and adrenals holding steady. > > How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks?? > > > Kem in Eugene > <º)))>< > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I don't know but there's no way I could work right now no matter what time of day. I know it'll take time for T4/rt3 to leave but I'm getting close to dysfunctional like I was prior to being diagnosed and starting naturethroid 2 years ago. Best luck with your new job;-) Hopefully not everybody reacts with severe fatigue and you'll do better. > > > > When I started Hc & T3, I was totally somnolent. I think I had been running on adrenaline for so long that my body forgot how it felt to be normal. > > > > If your temperature are averaging 98.6, I wouldn't be in a rush to raise T3. You may be suffering from adrenaline withdrawal. > > > > If you temperatures fall. then you'll know it's time for a raise. It does take awhile for the T4 to decay, and for your body to adjust to the new regiment. I tried to enjoy being lazy, and it helped get over this period. > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Kem Tillford <Losinit4good@> > > To: RT3 <RT3_T3 > > > Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:33:29 PM > > Subject: OMG - I'm so hypo now > > > > > > I started T3 May 20, had been taking 4 gr. NT and T3 start dose was 12.5, 6.25, 12.5, 6.25. temps were 98 - 98.4ish > > On May 23 within 3 days I was feeling so hypo/fatigued I raised dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 6.25. Captured temp @ 98.6 > > Could hardly wait 5 days to raise dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 on May 28. temp steady @ 98.6 > > > > I'm so tired now, back to sleeping until noon with frequent naps during day, as bad as when I was first diagnosed hypo/hashi's. My bp is good, heart rate good, temps captured and adrenals holding steady. > > > > How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks?? > > > > > > Kem in Eugene > > <º)))>< > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I don't know but there's no way I could work right now no matter what time of day. I know it'll take time for T4/rt3 to leave but I'm getting close to dysfunctional like I was prior to being diagnosed and starting naturethroid 2 years ago. Best luck with your new job;-) Hopefully not everybody reacts with severe fatigue and you'll do better. > > > > When I started Hc & T3, I was totally somnolent. I think I had been running on adrenaline for so long that my body forgot how it felt to be normal. > > > > If your temperature are averaging 98.6, I wouldn't be in a rush to raise T3. You may be suffering from adrenaline withdrawal. > > > > If you temperatures fall. then you'll know it's time for a raise. It does take awhile for the T4 to decay, and for your body to adjust to the new regiment. I tried to enjoy being lazy, and it helped get over this period. > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Kem Tillford <Losinit4good@> > > To: RT3 <RT3_T3 > > > Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:33:29 PM > > Subject: OMG - I'm so hypo now > > > > > > I started T3 May 20, had been taking 4 gr. NT and T3 start dose was 12.5, 6.25, 12.5, 6.25. temps were 98 - 98.4ish > > On May 23 within 3 days I was feeling so hypo/fatigued I raised dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 6.25. Captured temp @ 98.6 > > Could hardly wait 5 days to raise dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 on May 28. temp steady @ 98.6 > > > > I'm so tired now, back to sleeping until noon with frequent naps during day, as bad as when I was first diagnosed hypo/hashi's. My bp is good, heart rate good, temps captured and adrenals holding steady. > > > > How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks?? > > > > > > Kem in Eugene > > <º)))>< > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Maybe it's your body finally getting what it needs, and sometimes I know even though you're healing, you feel worse before you feel better. Maybe your cells were all tired, and now they're being nourished, and just forcing you to rest so you CAN heal. Just a guess. Sort of like a die-off reaction that you have with candida. When the yeast is dying, you have an exacerbation of symptoms for a short time, and then you feel better. I don't know. I'm going to start on Cytomel in a few days, and I've been off of the Naturethroid I was on for about 3 weeks. Before that I was not on anything. The t3/t4 and a lot of stress threw me into a reverse t3 situation with a ratio of ft3/t3 - 10.78, so I'm way low on my t3, or at least I was three weeks ago when I tested. My main symptoms are air hunger and extreme fatigue. Hoping I can get this straightened out soon, too, as this greatly affects my quality of life. Hope to hear good reports from you soon! Subject: Re: OMG - I'm so hypo nowTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 1:10 AM I'm taking 30 mg HC, my adrenals are stable according to temp graphs, also I have a pretty laid back stress free lifestyle so running on adrenaline isn't the issue here. I can't function like this, worse hypo than when I was first diagnosed 2 years ago.>> When I started Hc & T3, I was totally somnolent. I think I had been running on adrenaline for so long that my body forgot how it felt to be normal. > > If your temperature are averaging 98.6, I wouldn't be in a rush to raise T3. You may be suffering from adrenaline withdrawal. > > If you temperatures fall. then you'll know it's time for a raise. It does take awhile for the T4 to decay, and for your body to adjust to the new regiment. I tried to enjoy being lazy, and it helped get over this period.> > Ann> > > > > ________________________________> > To: RT3 <RT3_T3 >> Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:33:29 PM> Subject: OMG - I'm so hypo now> > > I started T3 May 20, had been taking 4 gr. NT and T3 start dose was 12.5, 6.25, 12.5, 6.25. temps were 98 - 98.4ish> On May 23 within 3 days I was feeling so hypo/fatigued I raised dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 6.25. Captured temp @ 98.6> Could hardly wait 5 days to raise dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 on May 28. temp steady @ 98.6> > I'm so tired now, back to sleeping until noon with frequent naps during day, as bad as when I was first diagnosed hypo/hashi's. My bp is good, heart rate good, temps captured and adrenals holding steady.> > How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks??> > > Kem in Eugene> <º)))><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 This will pass as you get your levels stabilized. It's a balancing act for a little bit, but it does get better.AnnSent from my iPad I'm taking 30 mg HC, my adrenals are stable according to temp graphs, also I have a pretty laid back stress free lifestyle so running on adrenaline isn't the issue here. I can't function like this, worse hypo than when I was first diagnosed 2 years ago. > > When I started Hc & T3, I was totally somnolent. I think I had been running on adrenaline for so long that my body forgot how it felt to be normal. > > If your temperature are averaging 98.6, I wouldn't be in a rush to raise T3. You may be suffering from adrenaline withdrawal. > > If you temperatures fall. then you'll know it's time for a raise. It does take awhile for the T4 to decay, and for your body to adjust to the new regiment. I tried to enjoy being lazy, and it helped get over this period. > > Ann > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: RT3 <RT3_T3 > > Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:33:29 PM > Subject: OMG - I'm so hypo now > > > I started T3 May 20, had been taking 4 gr. NT and T3 start dose was 12.5, 6.25, 12.5, 6.25. temps were 98 - 98.4ish > On May 23 within 3 days I was feeling so hypo/fatigued I raised dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 6.25. Captured temp @ 98.6 > Could hardly wait 5 days to raise dose to 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 on May 28. temp steady @ 98.6 > > I'm so tired now, back to sleeping until noon with frequent naps during day, as bad as when I was first diagnosed hypo/hashi's. My bp is good, heart rate good, temps captured and adrenals holding steady. > > How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks?? > > > Kem in Eugene > <º)))>< > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 > >How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the >vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were >taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop >dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks?? You don't have to stay hypo while waiting, if you were hypo before starting T3 than a faster raise for the first couple of increases may clear that hypo. If you go higher that 100 or so in the ramp up to clear hypo symptoms then you may well hit hyper at clearance but it will clear in a few hours after dropping dose, just watch out for it Nick -- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 > Is starting the T3 at the same time going to be horrible timing? It's not ideal shall we say. I waited for a long weekend before I swapped from natural to T3 just in case I was out of balance for a day or two. Most people can do it pretty seamlessly, especially if ferritin and adrenals are in place first Nick -- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Thanks for info Nick, over the last few days I've suddenly started sleeping about 12 hours a day. I take my first dose and end up falling back asleep and by the time I'm ready for my third dose I can literally feel the energy plug get pulled and drains out...man this is not fun. I'll add an extra 6.25 to morning dose tomorrow and see if it makes any difference, it not I'll add extra 6.25 to third dose at 3pm. My birthday is this week and I've also got a wedding to attend, if I don't get it together I'm gonna sleep right through the week.<<Posted by: "Nick Foot" lists@... nickrwymMon May 31, 2010 2:37 am (PDT)>>How fast can I raise this dose again, I feel like I'm dying on the >vine with fatigue? My rt3 ratio was 14.8 3 months ago when labs were >taken. I don't want to rush things but are we supposed to be drop >dead exhausted for the next 12 weeks??You don't have to stay hypo while waiting, if you were hypo beforestarting T3 than a faster raise for the first couple of increases mayclear that hypo.If you go higher that 100 or so in the ramp up to clear hypo symptomsthen you may well hit hyper at clearance but it will clear in a fewhours after dropping dose, just watch out for itNick>> Kem in Eugene <º)))>< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I was taking 9am 12.5, Noon 12.5, 3pm 12.5, 6pm 12.5 until yesterday when I complained of being severely hypo. This morning I bumped up to 9am 18.75, Noon 12.5, 3pm 18.75, 6pm 12.5 and can already feel a difference in energy levels. I needed more but was trying to hold to that 5 - 7 day thing before raises, I needed more quicker.Temps are now 98.6 average past week and extremely stable for past 6 weeks. Ferritin, b12 really good last labs 3 months ago and continuing to support those levels. Pulse yesterday ran from 75 - 80 all day. Taking 30 mg HC and the Mexican cynomel suggested by Val prior to ordering. This is my third week on T3, was on Naturethroid for 2 years, last dose before changing to T3 was 4gr.Like I say, I just needed more T3 before the 5-7 day span, big difference with upping meds this morning. My adrenals are steady as a rock.<<Posted by: "Nick Foot" lists@... nickrwymMon May 31, 2010 10:47 pm (PDT)>Thanks for info Nick, over the last few days I've suddenly started >sleeping about 12 hours a day. I take my first dose and end up >falling back asleep and by the time I'm ready for my third dose I can >literally feel the energy plug get pulled and drains out...man this is >not funThis is screaming adrenal at me unless you are taking a very low doseof T3.What are temperature and pulse doing?How much T3 are you on of what brand and how are you dosing it?How long have you been on T3 and how much of what were you on before??Nick>> Kem in Eugene <º)))>< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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