Re: Newbie needing lots of help

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>

> Could someone please please tell me how the following supplements are

> supposed to help me. Phone consult with

Write down what you want to ask , then edit your questions

putting the most important things first, simplify so that you can

follow your notes while on the phone, and leave spaces so that you can

write in her comments.

> Treatment plan:

> Progesterone cream

Bring your progesterone levels up closer to where they should be.

Progesterone is calming, for one thing.

Ask how much to apply, what time of day, how many days per month.

> Re-start cortef

Cortef will help to cut through the fatigue, brain fog.

Ask what total dose per day she would like you to try, how many doses

per day and how much at what time intervals. (For example x mg on

waking, y mg at noon, z mg at 4 pm, or whatever combination she feels

would be best).

> Artichoke up to 3x/day along with vit c and b complex

I think artichoke is to help the liver.

Vitamin C is an antioxidant, helps with lots of things. Vit C and B

will help adrenals, liver, and others.

> Kelp- start with one per day - work up to three

Ask her... perhaps a source of iodine and possibly other things.

> Tyrosine -750mg one in the a.m. Actually the supp sent is only 500mg

Olif posted about tyrosine.

> Multivit with iron - I am low on ferritin

The multi will help if there are certain nutrients that you are not

getting (most of us are deficient in lots). The iron should help to

bring up your ferritin. Low ferritin can contribute to fatigue.

may have preferences for the type of iron that is readily absorbed.

> I am also supposed to take fish oil and probiotics.

Fish oil provides omega 3 oils - we are all severely deficient in

these and they are needed for every cell membrane in the body - very

important.

The probiotics will help to supply beneficial organisms to maintain

normal gut flora - important because mercury poisoned people tend to

have problems with gut dysbiosis.

> Vitamin D - 1000 mg a day

>

For strong bones and teeth, and other things. V important because

most people are severely deficient.

> I am not new to biomed. What I do understand thru helping my daughter

> recoverying from PDD-NOS and my nt son (both have high arsenic and

> mineral derangements)is how to treat yeast, viruses and I know some

> about Andy's protocal. We are using it for our daugther. I have done

> a lot of reading on diet and enzymes which has been very helpful for

> my kids.

>

> I am VERY green at understanding anything beyound that.

>I have a

> terrible memory - seriously and I am having awful agitation.

I know what this is like because my memory was very poor after amalgam

removal. The good news is that I have improved dramatically through

working with Andy and (and you will too!)

> I feel

> like I am about to blow frequently. My anxiety is at an all time

> high. I have been short with the kids thus feeling guilt and feeling

> like a terrible mother. I am feeling very stressed - like a need a

> good drink. (I am not a drinker)

Talk to about this. I am sure that she will have some ideas

about how to help.

> I have been on zoloft in the past

> but stopped due to feeling flat.

>I really need to know how long I

> should give this protocal a try. I feel like I am hanging on by a

> thread and am wondering if I should just go back on zoloft.

will likely have some ideas to help.

> Feeling

> numb is better than always feeling edgy. I will do my own research.

>I

> hate to ask so many questions but I am in a bad spot right now and it

> could take me awhie to understand all of this.

>

I understand because I was in your position at one time. I was so

confused I didn't even know what questions to ask (and couldn't

remember the answers anyway).

> I know I need to reach out for support from friends and family so I

> don't need that lecture. Honestly, my kids (especially the one with

> PDD)is on many supplements. I chart them and do very well with being

> consistent with them.

>I am burned out.

I understand this part all too well too. It's important to look after

yourself first partly because the whole family will suffer if you

suffer. Be good to yourself.

> Buy the time I get to myself I

> am just tired of pulling out supps. I am doing better at taking supps

> because I want to get better but have room for improvement.

>

> What I am taking

> Left over Solary vitamin C that my husband feels is junk and my kids

> are using Kirkman brand.

> Left over Mannatech AO - just using it up before it expires

> 20mg of cortef in a.m. with food- last two days I have missed this.

Ask about the cortef. This is an important medication to get

right as soon as you can.

> I have taken the Tyrosine a couple of times when I remember to take

> it upon waking. Why do you need to take this immediately after

> waking? What does it do? What about side effects?

See Olif's post.

> Vitamin D - 1000 mg a day. I am faithful with this.

> I have not added in the Kelp yet. What is it supposed to do anyway?

would be better to answer this because I don't use kelp. I

think it may be a source of iodine to help the thyroid.

> This week I started the Progesterone Cream. I having been getting

> really hot at night.

> Tried the Artichoke. I don't have a hard time taking pills but

> everytime I take this I seem to gag. Wonder if my body is trying to

> tell me not a good idea. After taking this for four days I stopped.

Some people find that they are sensitive to certain things. Ask

if there is an alternative that you could try.

> Don't understand what it does either.

> B Complex from Jarrow - I have been taking this twice daily but my

> urine is really bright colored. This makes me think I might just be

> dumping money down the toilet.

B vitamins are water soluble. It is expected to lose some but it is

important to keep taking them because we need to absorb some.

> I am not taking the probiotics or multi-vitamin with iron.

> Any good recommendations on multi brands?

I don't know (I buy the latest special at my local HFS, to keep costs

down). Perhaps others have ideas.

> I know I won't get better unless I take the stuff. I spend tones of

> money on probiotics and other supps for the kids. Burned out with how

> expensive all of this is.

I find that there are some supplements that it is important to obtain

good quality (fish oil for example) and others where I can save some

money by buying in bulk. may be able to suggest ways to economize.

>I am hard on myself that I haven't taken

> good care of myself and that I have ignored my own health while

> trying to save the kids. There is just only so many resources. If I

> can not continue to take all of these supplements on an ongoing basis

> which ones are the most important.

>

You have mentioned some important ones here. There are others that

are important, like Mg and Zn and probably some I am forgetting. Give

yourself time to learn and organize the supplements.

> Ok, deep breath! Life is going to get better and I thank you for your

> suggestions/comments.

It takes time to organize your treatment. Don't be too hard on

yourself. Take one day at a time.

It may help to get some pill minder containers. (I bought some at the

dollar store). I have some with large compartments for supplements

and some with small compartments for medications. For the medications

I use tape to write on what time of day I am to take them.

Good luck

J

> Melinda

>

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>

> Could someone please please tell me how the following supplements are

> supposed to help me. Phone consult with

> Treatment plan:

> Progesterone cream

> Re-start cortef

> Artichoke up to 3x/day along with vit c and b complex

> Kelp- start with one per day - work up to three

> Tyrosine -750mg one in the a.m. Actually the supp sent is only 500mg

> Multivit with iron - I am low on ferritin

> I am also supposed to take fish oil and probiotics.

> Vitamin D - 1000 mg a day

From what you describe below, I think all these supps make sense

(I take a lot of them myself). If you've been on cortef before,

I imagine this would be the easiest one to get started since you

are familiar with it. Progesterone will also help to reduce

stress - it can be calming, antidepressant, improve sleep.

Artichoke is probably for liver/bile support.

> I am not new to biomed. What I do understand thru helping my daughter

> recoverying from PDD-NOS and my nt son (both have high arsenic and

> mineral derangements)is how to treat yeast, viruses and I know some

> about Andy's protocal. We are using it for our daugther. I have done

> a lot of reading on diet and enzymes which has been very helpful for

> my kids.

>

> I am VERY green at understanding anything beyound that. I have a

> terrible memory - seriously and I am having awful agitation. I feel

> like I am about to blow frequently. My anxiety is at an all time

> high. I have been short with the kids thus feeling guilt and feeling

> like a terrible mother. I am feeling very stressed - like a need a

> good drink. (I am not a drinker) I have been on zoloft in the past

> but stopped due to feeling flat. I really need to know how long I

> should give this protocal a try. I feel like I am hanging on by a

> thread and am wondering if I should just go back on zoloft. Feeling

> numb is better than always feeling edgy. I will do my own research. I

> hate to ask so many questions but I am in a bad spot right now and it

> could take me awhie to understand all of this.

Sounds like the stress and anxiety is the biggest thing you want

to handle right now, which would mean treating hormone levels is

step one. For more info, online research may be helpful, or

you can join the NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALs group.

> I know I need to reach out for support from friends and family so I

> don't need that lecture. Honestly, my kids (especially the one with

> PDD)is on many supplements. I chart them and do very well with being

> consistent with them. I am burned out. Buy the timeI get to myself I

> am just tired of pulling out supps. I am doing better at taking supps

> because I want to get better but have room for improvement.

Sounds like you've got to a point where it's time to address your

needs. You'll help your kids more effectively when you are feeling

better yourself.

> What I am taking

> Left over Solary vitamin C that my husband feels is junk and my kids

> are using Kirkman brand.

> Left over Mannatech AO - just using it up before it expires

> 20mg of cortef in a.m. with food- last two days I have missed this.

This one is important to take every day. If you were taking it

for some time before the last two days, dropping it could make

you feel pretty bad.

> I have taken the Tyrosine a couple of times when I remember to take

> it upon waking. Why do you need to take this immediately after

> waking? What does it do? What about side effects?

Tyrosine can support thyroid function and can improve attention and

alertness. Anything can have side effects in a sensitive person -

but it probably won't. Do you think it bothers you?

Taking right after waking is probably to make sure you take

on an empty stomach. It will be better absorbed that way.

> Vitamin D - 1000 mg a day. I am faithful with this.

> I have not added in the Kelp yet. What is it supposed to do anyway?

Will support your thyroid (source of iodine).

> This week I started the Progesterone Cream. I having been getting

> really hot at night.

Are you getting hot after starting it or before? It should help

with hot flashes.

> Tried the Artichoke. I don't have a hard time taking pills but

> everytime I take this I seem to gag. Wonder if my body is trying to

> tell me not a good idea. After taking this for four days I stopped.

> Don't understand what it does either.

It will help with bile flow. If it bothers you, maybe can

suggest something milder - or ask her if you can split the capsules

and just take half to start.

> B Complex from Jarrow - I have been taking this twice daily but my

> urine is really bright colored. This makes me think I might just be

> dumping money down the toilet.

It's because you pee it out quickly that you need to take it more

often. (Supposedly it's the riboflavin that colors the urine.)

B vitamins can be pretty helpful with your energy level, anxiety,

and lots of other stuff, but you need to take frequently to keep

the benefits going. B vitamins are pretty cheap and it's worth

it to make sure you have enough of them in your system. If you

buy a B100 tablet, it will be cheaper and you can cut it in half.

> I am not taking the probiotics or multi-vitamin with iron.

> Any good recommendations on multi brands?

> I know I won't get better unless I take the stuff. I spend tones of

> money on probiotics and other supps for the kids. Burned out with how

> expensive all of this is. I am hard on myself that I haven't taken

> good care of myself and that I have ignored my own health while

> trying to save the kids. There is just only so many resources. If I

> can not continue to take all of these supplements on an ongoing basis

> which ones are the most important.

IMO the cortef and progesterone are most important to start. They

will help you to feel calmer and think more clearly about all of this.

> Ok, deep breath! Life is going to get better and I thank you for your

> suggestions/comments.

> Melinda

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

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Thanks, Olif, J & . You guys are a breath of fresh

air.

>

> Tyrosine can support thyroid function and can improve attention and

> alertness. Anything can have side effects in a sensitive person -

> but it probably won't. Do you think it bothers you?

>

It has not seemed to bother me but I have just started taking it. The

benefits of this one sounds good. Is it ok to add in the Tyrosine and

Kelp at the same time? I am anxious to get things started.

> > This week I started the Progesterone Cream. I having been getting

> > really hot at night.

>

I take one pump right before bed and sometimes wake up feeling like a

furnace. I am supposed to take it three weeks on one week off.

(stopping during menstrual cycle) I did not have the hot flashes is

new since taking it.

>

> Are you getting hot after starting it or before? It should help

> with hot flashes.

>

>

>>

> It's because you pee it out quickly that you need to take it more

> often. (Supposedly it's the riboflavin that colors the urine.)

> B vitamins can be pretty helpful with your energy level, anxiety,

> and lots of other stuff, but you need to take frequently to keep

> the benefits going. B vitamins are pretty cheap and it's worth

> it to make sure you have enough of them in your system. If you

> buy a B100 tablet, it will be cheaper and you can cut it in half.

>

This info. is very helpful. It's easier to take more consistently

when I have a better understanding. Thanks for the B100 tablet tip.

A great big thanks to everyone! Your posts were very understanding

and hopeful.. Just what I needed. I am committed to this. I'm going

to try to be patient and give it some time. I will keep you posted.

Melinda

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> >

> > Tyrosine can support thyroid function and can improve attention and

> > alertness. Anything can have side effects in a sensitive person -

> > but it probably won't. Do you think it bothers you?

> >

>

> It has not seemed to bother me but I have just started taking it. The

> benefits of this one sounds good. Is it ok to add in the Tyrosine and

> Kelp at the same time? I am anxious to get things started.

It's up to you. If you do add two things at once, and there is a

side effect, you won't know which one is causing it. I wouldn't

think these are likely to cause a problem, but everyone is different.

> > > This week I started the Progesterone Cream. I having been getting

> > > really hot at night.

> >

> I take one pump right before bed and sometimes wake up feeling like a

> furnace. I am supposed to take it three weeks on one week off.

> (stopping during menstrual cycle) I did not have the hot flashes is

> new since taking it.

That sounds unusual. You may want to reduce the dose and

see if the hot flashes go away. It's possible it's just

your hormone balance shifting and adjusting - not sure.

I would mention it to . Part of the point of progesterone

cream is to improve your sleep quality - if you are waking up

with hot flashes that is defeating the purpose.

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> > Are you getting hot after starting it or before? It should help

> > with hot flashes.

> >

> >

> >>

> > It's because you pee it out quickly that you need to take it more

> > often. (Supposedly it's the riboflavin that colors the urine.)

> > B vitamins can be pretty helpful with your energy level, anxiety,

> > and lots of other stuff, but you need to take frequently to keep

> > the benefits going. B vitamins are pretty cheap and it's worth

> > it to make sure you have enough of them in your system. If you

> > buy a B100 tablet, it will be cheaper and you can cut it in half.

> >

> This info. is very helpful. It's easier to take more consistently

> when I have a better understanding. Thanks for the B100 tablet tip.

>

> A great big thanks to everyone! Your posts were very understanding

> and hopeful.. Just what I needed. I am committed to this. I'm going

> to try to be patient and give it some time. I will keep you posted.

> Melinda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Melinda,

I'm willing to bet the Cortef will help with your anxiety and short fuse, as

will continued

rounds of chelation.

You might want to read some of Lee's books on premenopause and menopause

because he discusses reproductive hormones in detail, esp. supplementing with

progesterone cream. Apparently, a common mistake is to apply too much.

Also, if you end up supplementing with Iodoral down the line, be warned that

I've read

reports where progesterone levels rise with Iodoral supplementation.

I sympathize with you on the expenses and trying to decide what is most

important to

spend money on. When you're having trouble with foggy thinking, memory, and

agitation,

it makes decision-making and weighing things out even more challenging. One

thing that

has helped me a lot is to write things down so I " get them out of my head " and

stop

thinking & thinking about them all the time. Sometimes looking down at the

paper (or

computer screen), the priorities leap out at me in a way they don't when

swirling around in

my head.

I'm a chelating adult and chelating 2 NT kids too. We're 56 rounds in, and no

regrets.

Baby steps, and improving.

Hang in there,

in Illinois