Re: Feedback Pls - DDI Hair Test Results

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>

> Hi everyone - I just received my February hair test results back &

> was wondering if you could comment on them. I'm a bit new to this.

>

> I have both of Andy Cutler's books & have read them.

>

> My tests meet both counting rules #3 (5 in the red) & #4 (10 in the

> green & white zones) for possible mercury toxicity.

Correction - highly probable mercury toxicity.

> For counting rule #3, I may want to discount the very high iron. We

> do have lots of iron in our well water. My ferritin test came back

> somewhat low at 27; my blood iron was mid-range. But even with that,

> I still have 4 items in the red.

That's a vastly elevated hair iron level. The well water does

seem to be a likely explanation - I wonder if it is from washing

your hair in that water all the time? Do you drink the well water?

If so, you must be one of those mercury toxic people who dumps

iron, judging from your ferritin...

Despite the iron in the well water, I am going to suggest re-reading

the last paragraph on p. 129 of HTI about the weak correlation

between high hair iron and certain cancers. This is not to alarm

you at all, but just to make you aware. I'm not sure I would have

pointed this out, except for the fact of your low ferritin despite

intake of high iron in well water. If you haven't had a

colonoscopy/endoscopy to rule out possibly reasons for

malabsorption, that is probably worth doing (I am not a doctor or

an expert - that is simply my opinion and suggestion).

> I have had hypothyroid symptoms since about 1998. Adrenal fatigue set

> in this year. My TSH was 2.76, T4 was in the bottom 25% & T3 was

> right at the bottom of the range. I started on Westhroid dessicated

> thyroid on 1/1/07. I've been on Isocort adrenal support since mid-

> October. I came back with mild adrenal fatigue in both saliva & blood

> tests. I also started iodine thereapy in Oct. I'm currently on

> 37.5mg/day of Lugol's.

Good that you are addressing the adrenal and thyroid issues.

Do you feel improvement since adding these supports?

> AFA supplements, since mid-October, I've been taking 1tsp high-

> vitamin cod liver oil, B-complex (50mg), vitamin C (1-3mg/day),

> vitamin D (2000mg), vitamin E (400mg mixed tocopherals/tocotrienols),

> calcium (600-1200mg), magnesium (300-600mg), zinc (25mg), CoQ10

> (50mg), selenium (400mcg), biotin (5000mg), chromium (200mcg),

> vitamin K (9mg K1/1mg K2), strontium (340mg), iron (65mg), l-tyrosine

> (500mg) Celtic sea salt, rhodiola & ginkgo biloba.

Do you have very low bone density? (I think strontium is sometimes

given for that, and I don't know any other reason for giving it.

Is there evidence supporting its use?)

Are you using vitamin K for calcium metabolism?

You're missing milk thistle and molybdenum. Might want more

zinc. It's recommended to take that much B complex a few times

per day. The C should also be dosed 3-4 times per day and you

might want to consider adding more.

> I also take a multi-vitamin, which I've taken for years. Calcium I've

> taken on & off thru the years. Took it more regularly starting in

> October, as listed above. I mention that as I found it interesting

> that my calcium turned up so low in my hair test (3/4 of the way into

> the yellow). Ca, Mg, Na & K were all low. Stress? Or just because of

> mineral derangement?

These are not reflecting body burden. The following article may

possibly give some insight on your four low electrolyte pattern:

http://drlwilson.com/Articles/four%20lows.htm

> My blood tests showed positive for candida. I take probiotics &

> digestive enzymes. If I don't use the enzymes, I get a lot of

> flatulence. I haven't had any GI tests yet, but I think that's next

> on my list with my NP.

>

> My progesterone, pregnenolone & DHEA levels were low (saliva/blood

> tests). I supplement with bio-identical progesterone & pregnenolone

> cream. My vitamin D levels were very low via blood test in Jan 06.

>

> I have 2 amalgam fillings. I had 2 removed in the early 90's. The

> doctor did not use any mercury-protection protocol that I recall.

> Just drilled them out like they were regular fillings. Yikes!

I'm sure you know already that you need to get those last two

removed before you use any chelators.

> I have an appointment in May with Dr. Breiner for removing my

> amalgams. Is anyone familiar with him?:

> http://www.wholebodymed.com/staff.php

>

> I have an NP who is familiar with chelation using DMSA for mercury,

> although she's not familiar with the Cutler protocol. I left the

> books for her to read. She was more familiar with using a DMSA

> challenge test to determine mercury problems. She IS open-minded &

> would support me in using a Cutler protocol though.

Make sure you check her recommendations to verify that they are

consistent with Andy's suggestions. You can't rely on her to

understand fully or stick to important details.

> Ok, here are my test results. I appreciate your feedback! What's

> messed up because it's actually high/low & what's messed up simply

> from mineral transport derangement? What should I add or subtract

> from my supplements? What questions should I ask my doctors? Anything

> else you need to know? Thanks!

>

> TOXIC ELEMENTS

>

> Aluminum 9.4 (<7.0) Yellow

> Antimony 0.010 (<0.050) Green

> Arsenic 0.068 (<0.060) Yellow

> Beryllium <0.01 (<0.020) Nothing

> Bismuth 2.8 (<0.10) RED

Andy says vastly elevated bismuth is real about 1/3-1/2 of the time.

It could be falsely elevated or due to contamination, but since it

is a nasty toxin, it is worth eliminating sources of exposure.

Also, DMPS or DMSA along with ALA would be advisable for chelation.

> Cadmium 0.050 (<0.10) Green

> Lead 0.15 (<1.0) Green

> Mercury 1.0 (<1.1) Green

> Platinum <0.003 (<0.005) Green

> Thallium <0.001 (<0.010) Nothing

> Thorium <0.001 (<0.005) Nothing

> Uranium 0.003 (<0.060) Nothing

> Nickel 0.21 (<0.40) Green

> Silver 0.03 (<0.15) Green

> Tin 0.07 (<0.30) Green

> Titanium 0.41 (<1.0) Green

>

> Total Toxic Representation: Yellow (at the very end of the yellow)

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

>

> Calcium 152 (300- 1200) Yellow (low side)

> Magnesium 27 (35- 120) Yellow (low side)

> Sodium 4 (12- 90) Yellow (low side)

> Potassium <3 (8- 38) RED (low side)

Low potassium goes with thyroid problem.

> Copper 20 (12- 35) Green (high side)

> Zinc 200 (140- 220) Green (high side)

> Manganese 3.2 (0.15- 0.65) RED (high side)

Manganese is very elevated. I would certainly recommend you

re-read the sections on manganese on p. 119-125 and p. 258 to

see if you fit the picture of manganese toxicity. I would also

check your supplements carefully to make sure you are not getting

any manganese in supplement form. It is not generally recommended

in any case, but especially not if you have very high hair manganese.

Checking RBC manganese could be worthwhile.

Check any supplements designed for bone density support and calcium

absorption. I know mine has a little manganese (fortunately I am

very low in manganese).

> Chromium 0.37 (0.20- 0.40) Green (high side)

> Vanadium 0.041(0.018- 0.065) Green (high side)

> Molybdenm 0.023(0.028- 0.056) Yellow (low side)

> Boron 0.13 (0.30- 2.0) RED (low side)

> Iodine 0.83 (0.25- 1.3) Green (high side)

> Lithium <0.004 (0.007- 0.023) RED (low side)

Undetectable lithium means you may benefit from a supplement

of 5 mg or so (orotate or aspartate).

> Phosphorus 190 (160- 250) Green (low side)

> Selenium 1.1 (0.95- 1.7) Green (low side)

> Strontium 0.64 (0.50- 7.6) Green (low side)

> Sulfur 45000 (44500- 52000) Green (low side)

> Barium 0.13 (0.26- 3.0) Yellow (low side)

> Cobalt 0.10 (0.013- 0.050) Yellow (high side)

> Iron 91 (5.4- 14) RED (high side)

> Germanium 0.039(0.045- 0.065) Yellow (low side)

> Rubidium 0.006(0.007- 0.096) Yellow (low side)

> Zirconium 0.076(0.020- 0.42) White (mid)

>

> RATIOS

>

> Ca/Mg 5.63 (4- 30)

> Ca/P 0.8 (1- 12) LOW!

Fast oxidizers do well on a high fat diet, and lots of vit D.

> Na/K 1.33 (0.5- 10)

> Zn/Cu 10 (4- 20)

> Zn/Cd >999 (>800)

>

Na/Mg of .15 indicates low adrenaline production and you may

benefit from one or more of tyrosine, TMG, folic acid, vits B6, B12.

K/Ca of .02 suggests a thyroid problem, which you already know and

are addressing.

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>

> Hi everyone - I just received my February hair test results back &

> was wondering if you could comment on them. I'm a bit new to this.

>

> I have both of Andy Cutler's books & have read them.

>

> My tests meet both counting rules #3 (5 in the red) & #4 (10 in the

> green & white zones) for possible mercury toxicity.

>

This means mineral transport is deranged and mercury poisoning is

highly probable.

> For counting rule #3, I may want to discount the very high iron. We

> do have lots of iron in our well water. My ferritin test came back

> somewhat low at 27; my blood iron was mid-range. But even with that,

> I still have 4 items in the red.

>

> I have had hypothyroid symptoms since about 1998. Adrenal fatigue set

> in this year. My TSH was 2.76,

TSH doesn' mean much if the hypothyoidism is from improper signals

from the brain (secondary) or from improper transport.

> T4 was in the bottom 25% & T3 was

> right at the bottom of the range. I started on Westhroid dessicated

> thyroid on 1/1/07.

Good thing your health care practitioner was willing to help.

> I've been on Isocort adrenal support since mid-

> October.

Are you treating yourself or is this from a doctor?

> I came back with mild adrenal fatigue in both saliva & blood

> tests.

Was that before you started on the isocort?

> I also started iodine thereapy in Oct. I'm currently on

> 37.5mg/day of Lugol's.

>

The way I use Lugol's is to put a drop on my arm. If it disappears in

24 h I need to use it. If it is still there in 24 h I have enough.

Makes dosing easy. (Got this idea from my pharmacist).

> AFA supplements, since mid-October, I've been taking 1tsp high-

> vitamin cod liver oil,

could increase to 1- 2 T CLO

> B-complex (50mg),

increase to 4x per day

> vitamin C (1-3mg/day),

Do you mean 1-3 g? Could take even more and spreading it out over the

day is best.

> vitamin D (2000mg),

Do you mean 2000 iu? This amount is probably ok given your low blood

test. If you take 2 T CLO plus 2000 iu vitamin D per day test 25 (OH)

vitamin D levels again in a year or so.

> vitamin E (400mg mixed tocopherals/tocotrienols),

> calcium (600-1200mg), magnesium (300-600mg),

What form of Ca and Mg?

> zinc (25mg), CoQ10

> (50mg), selenium (400mcg), biotin (5000mg), chromium (200mcg),

> vitamin K (9mg K1/1mg K2),

> strontium (340mg),

> iron (65mg), l-tyrosine

> (500mg) Celtic sea salt, rhodiola & ginkgo biloba.

>

> I also take a multi-vitamin, which I've taken for years. Calcium I've

> taken on & off thru the years. Took it more regularly starting in

> October, as listed above.

>I mention that as I found it interesting

> that my calcium turned up so low in my hair test (3/4 of the way into

> the yellow). Ca, Mg, Na & K were all low. Stress? Or just because of

> mineral derangement?

>

When mineral transport is deranged levels of minerals in hair are not

usually a reflection of body burden ( some aren't even when mineral

transport is orderly).

> My blood tests showed positive for candida. I take probiotics &

> digestive enzymes. If I don't use the enzymes, I get a lot of

> flatulence. I haven't had any GI tests yet, but I think that's next

> on my list with my NP.

>

What would you ask to test for? Many people find they need probiotics

and digestive enzymes during chelation anyway. There may be some diet

modifications that might help.

Extra stomach acid might help (Betaine HCl plus pepsin)

> My progesterone, pregnenolone & DHEA levels were low (saliva/blood

> tests). I supplement with bio-identical progesterone & pregnenolone

> cream. My vitamin D levels were very low via blood test in Jan 06.

>

> I have 2 amalgam fillings. I had 2 removed in the early 90's. The

> doctor did not use any mercury-protection protocol that I recall.

> Just drilled them out like they were regular fillings. Yikes!

>

> I have an appointment in May with Dr. Breiner for removing my

> amalgams. Is anyone familiar with him?:

> http://www.wholebodymed.com/staff.php

>

> I have an NP who is familiar with chelation using DMSA for mercury,

> although she's not familiar with the Cutler protocol. I left the

> books for her to read. She was more familiar with using a DMSA

> challenge test to determine mercury problems. She IS open-minded &

> would support me in using a Cutler protocol though.

>

Please don't let her talk you into taking any chelators with amalgams

in, high dose DMSA or other chelators, no challenge tests. Cutler's

protocol is the safest.

> Ok, here are my test results. I appreciate your feedback! What's

> messed up because it's actually high/low & what's messed up simply

> from mineral transport derangement? What should I add or subtract

> from my supplements?

When mineral transport is deranged it's not that useful to base

supplementation on the hair test results.

Cutler does say supplementary lithium (orotate or aspartate) may help

if levels are below 0.04 (p 257 ot HTI).

For supplementation, see Cutler's Amalgam Illness book. You have most

of the basics covered. You could add something to increase bile flow

(milk thistle extract), molybdenum, taurine, more B vitamins.

You are right to be pursuing adrenal and thyroid problems. It is not

easy to get the doses right. Hopefully someone will be helping you

with that.

> What questions should I ask my doctors?

They seem to be already willing to run the tests that you want - good.

Would they be willing to write a prescription for DMPS at the doses

that you want?

Good luck!

J

> Anything

> else you need to know? Thanks!

>

> TOXIC ELEMENTS

>

> Aluminum 9.4 (<7.0) Yellow

> Antimony 0.010 (<0.050) Green

> Arsenic 0.068 (<0.060) Yellow

> Beryllium <0.01 (<0.020) Nothing

> Bismuth 2.8 (<0.10) RED

> Cadmium 0.050 (<0.10) Green

> Lead 0.15 (<1.0) Green

> Mercury 1.0 (<1.1) Green

> Platinum <0.003 (<0.005) Green

> Thallium <0.001 (<0.010) Nothing

> Thorium <0.001 (<0.005) Nothing

> Uranium 0.003 (<0.060) Nothing

> Nickel 0.21 (<0.40) Green

> Silver 0.03 (<0.15) Green

> Tin 0.07 (<0.30) Green

> Titanium 0.41 (<1.0) Green

>

> Total Toxic Representation: Yellow (at the very end of the yellow)

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

>

> Calcium 152 (300- 1200) Yellow (low side)

> Magnesium 27 (35- 120) Yellow (low side)

> Sodium 4 (12- 90) Yellow (low side)

> Potassium <3 (8- 38) RED (low side)

> Copper 20 (12- 35) Green (high side)

> Zinc 200 (140- 220) Green (high side)

> Manganese 3.2 (0.15- 0.65) RED (high side)

> Chromium 0.37 (0.20- 0.40) Green (high side)

> Vanadium 0.041(0.018- 0.065) Green (high side)

> Molybdenm 0.023(0.028- 0.056) Yellow (low side)

> Boron 0.13 (0.30- 2.0) RED (low side)

> Iodine 0.83 (0.25- 1.3) Green (high side)

> Lithium <0.004 (0.007- 0.023) RED (low side)

> Phosphorus 190 (160- 250) Green (low side)

> Selenium 1.1 (0.95- 1.7) Green (low side)

> Strontium 0.64 (0.50- 7.6) Green (low side)

> Sulfur 45000 (44500- 52000) Green (low side)

> Barium 0.13 (0.26- 3.0) Yellow (low side)

> Cobalt 0.10 (0.013- 0.050) Yellow (high side)

> Iron 91 (5.4- 14) RED (high side)

> Germanium 0.039(0.045- 0.065) Yellow (low side)

> Rubidium 0.006(0.007- 0.096) Yellow (low side)

> Zirconium 0.076(0.020- 0.42) White (mid)

>

> RATIOS

>

> Ca/Mg 5.63 (4- 30)

> Ca/P 0.8 (1- 12) LOW!

> Na/K 1.33 (0.5- 10)

> Zn/Cu 10 (4- 20)

> Zn/Cd >999 (>800)

>