Re: Ultra-pasteurization - was: Goat's milk

[Guest guest]

One more factor to consider is whether the milk is pasteurized or ULTRA-pasteurized. In my region (mid-atlantic/bottom of the northeast), it is hard to find milk that is only pasteurized. Ultra-pasteurization extends the shelf-life of milk almost indefinitely if it is not opened, so stores love it. It was invented for shipping and storing milk long-term where refrigeration is not available. The problem is that ultra-pasteurization completely changes the structure of the proteins in the milk. Prior to SCD I was having inconsistent issues with milk. . . .sometimes I would have no reaction and other times it would make me hideously ill. I standardized all factors until it finally became clear that I could not tolerate ultra-pasteurized milk. I recently accidentally bought ultra-pasteurized goat milk for yogurt, and not wanting to waste it decided it was a good time to retest my theory. . .well suffice it to say my daughter and I both spent 2-3 days miserable from having maybe a tablespoon of the yogurt to test. I won't be doing that again. So. . .this is just a warning/heads-up that you might want to watch out for ultra-pasteurized milk or at least take notice of whether you react when you use it. Even Whole Foods and the other organic/natural food stores in my region all carry ultra-pasteurized milks. You have to look carefully just to get normal pasteurized milks. Good luck with everything. :-) in PAlifelong IBSgluten-free 9/2004SCD 5/2008

--- Re: Goat's milk

Date: Thu, June 18, 2009 7:00 am

To: BTVC-SCD

I am going to try and make my yogurt from goat's milk. Where can I find goat's milk? Do I buy any brand of goat's milk or do I need to look out for something?Thank you in advance.I get goats milk in the refrigerated section of Whole FOods. It's in a quart size purple container and has a pic of a goat on it, but I'm not sure what brand it is. I think any brand would be fine though, as long as there is nothing added other than the goat's milk. Keep in mind you may have to drip the yogurt, because goat yogurt is pretty watery. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa =D

[Guest guest]

It's good to know that information about the goat's milk. I have a whole foods

here, so I will look there. At least I know that Ultra-pasteurization could

cause some problems, but hopefully not. Thanks for the heads-up!

[Guest guest]

When I use the Meyenberg " Ultra-pasteurized " goat's milk, the yogurt is

completely liquid. I tried Trader Joe's " Pasteurized " goat's milk and it came

out slightly thicker. So maybe you're right about the ultra process changing

the protein structure. I thought I preferred the Meyenberg because it sounds

like the their goats are mostly pasture-fed but the Trader Joe's are fed grains,

not necessarily pasteured. Has anyone actually dripped goat yogurt? I would

think there wouldn't be any solids left!

Debbie T (UC 29 yrs, SCD 10/06, Lialda)

[Guest guest]

When I use the Meyenberg " Ultra-pasteurized " goat's milk, the yogurt is

completely liquid. I tried Trader Joe's " Pasteurized " goat's milk and it came

out slightly thicker. So maybe you're right about the ultra process changing

the protein structure. I thought I preferred the Meyenberg because it sounds

like the their goats are mostly pasture-fed but the Trader Joe's are fed grains,

not necessarily pasteured. Has anyone actually dripped goat yogurt? I would

think there wouldn't be any solids left!

Debbie T (UC 29 yrs, SCD 10/06, Lialda)

[Guest guest]

I use UHT goats milk all the time as I’m lazy and don’t

like heating and cooling the milk myself. My goat yogurt is runnier than cow

yogurt, but not too runny, more like gloss paint. If you are very careful

when you take it out of the yogurt maker and chill it overnight it drips ok,

but make sure you use a close weave cotton cloth and wet it with water first

(the fibres swell a bit and block the holes even more). Also, using acidophilus

in the starter seems to help, and if you ferment for about 28-30 hours it

starts to separate in the machine. This seems to drip the best then.

Rory