Re: OT: Vinegar & Digestive Issues

[Guest guest]

>

> I've undergone a previous, long-term candida detox diet & maintain

a

> diet that's extremely conscious about not letting this get out of

> control.

>

> What I'm trying to understand is why vinegar creates severe

> gassiness within an hour or so of eating a salad or any other food

> containing vinegar. Does this suggest ongoing candida-type

> overgrowth?

TK--- yes, vinegar can exacerbate candida problems. you can try using

good olive oil, some fresh lemon juice and spices for salads.

>

> Does the acid from vinegar upset something in the digestive tract,

> or suggest another bacterial culprit of some sort?

>

> My Blood Type is A, which recommends against all vinegar, but I'm

> not certain what the problem would be relative to this.

>

> I do have severe allergies to molds, and any yeast or mold

> containing foods tend to cause a lot digestive inflammation that

> takes many days to heal. Would this be connected in some way?

>

> I apologize for posting on this here, but felt there is possibly

> some connection with the havoc mercury creates for the digestive

> tract. Also, I'm trying to make sure I'm doing everything I can to

> ensure good absorption.

TK--- don't use vinegar to aid in absorption - use digestive enzymes

and acid

Has anyone else experienced this or found

> they must avoid all sources of vinegar?

>

> Thanks,

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

If it's regular vinegar, it's made from wheat. We use raw apple

cider vinegar in salads and also to break up mucous. The malic acid

in raw apple cider vinegar does help our digestion, but we can't

touch regular vinegar at all.

HTH

Wyndie

>

> I've undergone a previous, long-term candida detox diet & maintain

a

> diet that's extremely conscious about not letting this get out of

> control.

>

> What I'm trying to understand is why vinegar creates severe

> gassiness within an hour or so of eating a salad or any other food

> containing vinegar. Does this suggest ongoing candida-type

> overgrowth?

> Does the acid from vinegar upset something in the digestive tract,

> or suggest another bacterial culprit of some sort?

>

> My Blood Type is A, which recommends against all vinegar, but I'm

> not certain what the problem would be relative to this.

>

> I do have severe allergies to molds, and any yeast or mold

> containing foods tend to cause a lot digestive inflammation that

> takes many days to heal. Would this be connected in some way?

>

> I apologize for posting on this here, but felt there is possibly

> some connection with the havoc mercury creates for the digestive

> tract. Also, I'm trying to make sure I'm doing everything I can

to

> ensure good absorption. Has anyone else experienced this or found

> they must avoid all sources of vinegar?

>

> Thanks,

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

TK--- both can make candida worse and are not recommended, if this is

a problem which it is for many of us - use digestive enzymes and

acids HCL

> >

> > I've undergone a previous, long-term candida detox diet &

maintain

> a

> > diet that's extremely conscious about not letting this get out of

> > control.

> >

> > What I'm trying to understand is why vinegar creates severe

> > gassiness within an hour or so of eating a salad or any other

food

> > containing vinegar. Does this suggest ongoing candida-type

> > overgrowth?

>

> > Does the acid from vinegar upset something in the digestive

tract,

> > or suggest another bacterial culprit of some sort?

> >

> > My Blood Type is A, which recommends against all vinegar, but I'm

> > not certain what the problem would be relative to this.

> >

> > I do have severe allergies to molds, and any yeast or mold

> > containing foods tend to cause a lot digestive inflammation that

> > takes many days to heal. Would this be connected in some way?

> >

> > I apologize for posting on this here, but felt there is possibly

> > some connection with the havoc mercury creates for the digestive

> > tract. Also, I'm trying to make sure I'm doing everything I can

> to

> > ensure good absorption. Has anyone else experienced this or

found

> > they must avoid all sources of vinegar?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Joanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do you know why, or what the 'mechanism' would be that makes vinegar

an issue? Does it feed candida? Or does it kill it? Why such an

immediate & crazy response? The reaction is clearly in the small

intestine just after food has passed the stomache, starting with

sharp achiness, severe abdominal bloating, and then I'm making

efforts to keep moving gas up for hours. This went on despite many

months of candida cleansing, but small amounts of apple cider

vinegar was included in the protocol (BED) so I didn't identify it

back then. Could it relate to bile production in some way? I am

wondering if it could be a different organism & the acid in

vinegar 'fries' it somehow. It truly doesn't matter what type; I

get the same response with any cider vinegars such as Bragg's. I

used to believe it was due to oils in salad dressings & low bile

production, but in both CAT scans & ultrasound my gall bladder

looked fine. I do have hemangiomas of significant size in the lower

left parietal lobe of the liver & it has a strange wrap-around

shape. The problem actually goes back as far as I can remember -

well into childhood - and was frightening back then.

Any help is appreciated, because I really to want to address

anything that needs attention.

BTW, I've been using multi-spectrum probiotics on & off for nearly 5

years. Even after the first year, stool testing showed I had no

bifida so I try to keep supplementing it. There was no E coli of a

beneficial (or harmless) strain, and the low level of candida that

did show up was not albicans, but I didn't get further testing to

find out which strain it was. My lactobacillus strains were very

high.

Since I knew I had an amoeba (dientamoeba fragillis), it was treated

multiple times over about a year, first with Yodoxin (sp?), then

herbal preparations every 2-3 months.

I've also used digestive enzymes for that many years and use HCL if

there's a lot of meat in a meal. Since my immune system functions

well as long as I continue these things, with a careful diet, and

weight came back up, I believe this has been a tremendous help.

Joanne

> > >

> > > I've undergone a previous, long-term candida detox diet &

> maintain

> > a

> > > diet that's extremely conscious about not letting this get out

of

> > > control.

> > >

> > > What I'm trying to understand is why vinegar creates severe

> > > gassiness within an hour or so of eating a salad or any other

> food

> > > containing vinegar. Does this suggest ongoing candida-type

> > > overgrowth?

> >

> > > Does the acid from vinegar upset something in the digestive

> tract,

> > > or suggest another bacterial culprit of some sort?

> > >

> > > My Blood Type is A, which recommends against all vinegar, but

I'm

> > > not certain what the problem would be relative to this.

> > >

> > > I do have severe allergies to molds, and any yeast or mold

> > > containing foods tend to cause a lot digestive inflammation

that

> > > takes many days to heal. Would this be connected in some way?

> > >

> > > I apologize for posting on this here, but felt there is

possibly

> > > some connection with the havoc mercury creates for the

digestive

> > > tract. Also, I'm trying to make sure I'm doing everything I

can

> > to

> > > ensure good absorption. Has anyone else experienced this or

> found

> > > they must avoid all sources of vinegar?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Joanne

> > >

> >

>