Re: dmps - yeast? Cream of Tartar

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> I've been chelating with dmps (6 mg) every weekend for about 2

> months now. I'm still having lots of joint pain and after this last

> round horrific gut problems (i.e. major dybiosis).

>

> Does anyone know if dmps stirs up yeast/candida?

>

> Thanks,

> Val

>

Metals stir up yeast/candida, so no matter what chelator you use,

this can happen. DMPS is probably least likely to cause this of

the three. I suggest you get on a good diet to minimize dysbiosis

and get a good probiotic. This should help a lot.

It is probably no consolation, but if you haven't had this problem

until now you are lucky. I had major dysbiosis long before I ever

heard of mercury problems and could not figure out what the heck

was wrong with my gut.

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>

> I've been chelating with dmps (6 mg) every weekend for about 2

> months now. I'm still having lots of joint pain and after this last

> round horrific gut problems (i.e. major dybiosis).

>

> Does anyone know if dmps stirs up yeast/candida?

>

> Thanks,

> Val

>

Metals stir up yeast/candida, so no matter what chelator you use,

this can happen. DMPS is probably least likely to cause this of

the three. I suggest you get on a good diet to minimize dysbiosis

and get a good probiotic. This should help a lot.

It is probably no consolation, but if you haven't had this problem

until now you are lucky. I had major dysbiosis long before I ever

heard of mercury problems and could not figure out what the heck

was wrong with my gut.

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> Metals stir up yeast/candida, so no matter what chelator you use,

> this can happen. DMPS is probably least likely to cause this of

> the three. I suggest you get on a good diet to minimize dysbiosis

> and get a good probiotic. This should help a lot.

>

> It is probably no consolation, but if you haven't had this problem

> until now you are lucky. I had major dysbiosis long before I ever

> heard of mercury problems and could not figure out what the heck

> was wrong with my gut.

>

> --

--- Thanks, . Sad to say I've had digestive distress for

about 20 years. I had the whole workup when it started (loads of

nonsense tests) and I got the diagnosis of " spastic colon " . I've been

doing better (a little) eliminating gluten but it really flared up

badly today. When that happens I want to die - it is the worst, most

defeated feeling.

On a whim, I mixed lemon juice and Real Salt in a glass of water and

it almost immediately calmed my stomach a bit. I've been taking soil

based probiotics and digestive enzymes so I'm distresed at this latest

attack. Now I'm adding glutamine and Cream of Tartar.

Jeez, when will it end??

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I've been chelating with dmps (6 mg) every weekend for about 2

> months now. I'm still having lots of joint pain and after this last

> round horrific gut problems (i.e. major dybiosis).

>

I wasn't having gut problems when I started chelating with DMPS. I

started to have minor problems last summer. Those problems became

major when I had a sigmoidoscopy/ infection/ antibiotic. I've been

having lots of joint pain and major dysbiosis too plus colon pain.

What I am doing to try to get back to normal is following the specific

carbohydrate diet. (I really was forced to because of how much pain I

have been in lately).

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

> Does anyone know if dmps stirs up yeast/candida?

>

It isn't supposed to, at least not as much as DMSA.

I think that the mercury kills some of the gut flora and some of the

cells lining the gut as it moves through.

I really don't think that my problem is yeast. I think it is

overgrowth of 'bad' bacteria.

J

> Thanks,

> Val

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I've been chelating with dmps (6 mg) every weekend for about 2

> months now. I'm still having lots of joint pain and after this last

> round horrific gut problems (i.e. major dybiosis).

>

I wasn't having gut problems when I started chelating with DMPS. I

started to have minor problems last summer. Those problems became

major when I had a sigmoidoscopy/ infection/ antibiotic. I've been

having lots of joint pain and major dysbiosis too plus colon pain.

What I am doing to try to get back to normal is following the specific

carbohydrate diet. (I really was forced to because of how much pain I

have been in lately).

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

> Does anyone know if dmps stirs up yeast/candida?

>

It isn't supposed to, at least not as much as DMSA.

I think that the mercury kills some of the gut flora and some of the

cells lining the gut as it moves through.

I really don't think that my problem is yeast. I think it is

overgrowth of 'bad' bacteria.

J

> Thanks,

> Val

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I've been chelating with dmps (6 mg) every weekend for about 2

> months now. I'm still having lots of joint pain and after this last

> round horrific gut problems (i.e. major dybiosis).

>

I wasn't having gut problems when I started chelating with DMPS. I

started to have minor problems last summer. Those problems became

major when I had a sigmoidoscopy/ infection/ antibiotic. I've been

having lots of joint pain and major dysbiosis too plus colon pain.

What I am doing to try to get back to normal is following the specific

carbohydrate diet. (I really was forced to because of how much pain I

have been in lately).

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

> Does anyone know if dmps stirs up yeast/candida?

>

It isn't supposed to, at least not as much as DMSA.

I think that the mercury kills some of the gut flora and some of the

cells lining the gut as it moves through.

I really don't think that my problem is yeast. I think it is

overgrowth of 'bad' bacteria.

J

> Thanks,

> Val

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I wasn't having gut problems when I started chelating with DMPS. I

> started to have minor problems last summer. Those problems became

> major when I had a sigmoidoscopy/ infection/ antibiotic. I've been

> having lots of joint pain and major dysbiosis too plus colon pain.

>

> What I am doing to try to get back to normal is following the

specific

> carbohydrate diet. (I really was forced to because of how much pain

I

> have been in lately).

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I've heard of that diet - how is it working for you? I'm sorry to

hear that you're still in alot of pain... I thought you were alot

better?

Val

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> --- Thanks, . Sad to say I've had digestive distress for

> about 20 years. I had the whole workup when it started (loads of

> nonsense tests) and I got the diagnosis of " spastic colon " . I've been

> doing better (a little) eliminating gluten but it really flared up

> badly today. When that happens I want to die - it is the worst, most

> defeated feeling.

> On a whim, I mixed lemon juice and Real Salt in a glass of water and

> it almost immediately calmed my stomach a bit. I've been taking soil

> based probiotics and digestive enzymes so I'm distresed at this latest

> attack. Now I'm adding glutamine and Cream of Tartar.

>

> Jeez, when will it end??

Ah - so we've had a similar life of gut misery. My mother always

told me the gut problems were genetic, and now I realize it's really

a genetic propensity for poor metal detox.

Maybe you need more or different probiotics than what you are

taking. The salt and lemon idea makes some sense - glad that

helped. The glutamine will heal a leaky gut, but won't do much

for your flora balance as far as I know.

I looked up the cream of tartar. Sounds sort of bogus to me.

Have you heard reliable reports of people getting benefits from

this?

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> I've been

> > having lots of joint pain and major dysbiosis too plus colon pain.

> >

> > What I am doing to try to get back to normal is following the

> specific

> > carbohydrate diet. (I really was forced to because of how much pain

> I

> > have been in lately).

>

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>

> I've heard of that diet - how is it working for you?

I made several mistakes. The first mistake was to go immediately to

any of the SCD legal foods. It didn't help so I looked more closely

and found the section of SCD for beginners. I limited myself to the

beginner foods (basically chicken soup, cooked carrots, SCD yogurt,

honey, unflav geletin with unsweetened fruit juice) and immediately

started to get better.

The second mistake was to start chelating again too soon. Everything

was going good as long as I took the DMPS every 6 h. I missed a dose,

didn't notice until after I took the next dose, and kept going. The

next day I was back to where I started with pain, inflammation,

frequency, etc etc. I stopped chelating, went to fluids only for some

days, got real hungry, went to the SCD beginner diet again and I'm

still having problems.

The SCD diet says to stay on the beginner foods until all pain and

cramping is gone.

The good thing about the diet is that it does allow honey and fruit so

I am able to satisfy my sugar cravings. There are absolutely no

disaccharides or starches allowed.

> I'm sorry to

> hear that you're still in alot of pain... I thought you were alot

> better?

>

The infection and antibiotics gave me a major setback. It looks like

it will take some time to heal.

Hope you are feeling better.

J

> Val

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