Re: question about the protocol in Guidelines and the book

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I was looking through the Amalgam Illness book, ready to start my

> DMSA, and couldn't find the advice that matches the Guidelines here by

> Dean and TK.

>

> In AI, I'm finding on page 90, where Cutler says to begin with 50-100

Subsequent experience showed that most folks need to start lower.

12.5 mg works for many people.

> mg dmsa every 4 hours, and he doesn't say to do it in rounds at first.

If you look at the left column of p. 90, he does indicate to take

it in rounds.

> He only seems to talk about rounds when you begin to do ALA with DMSA.

> He seems to be saying that you do dmsa continuously at 4 hour

> intervals till you get it basically cleared from your blood. Then to

> begin the DMSA with ALA on the 'rounds' schedule. I've read this over

> and over, but that's what I get from it.

>

> Later on pg 131, he briefly refers to 'proper protocol', and mentions

> " DMSA every 3-4 hours on alternate weeks " for 2-6 months, implying

> rounds. Here the dosage isn't mentioned at all, it's apparently

> referring to what was said earlier, when rounds weren't mentioned.

> ???

It is confusing at first. I suggest also reading through the

material at http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

This will answer many questions.

> Can anyone clarify what this is all about? Is there anywhere in the

> book where the protocol is clearly spelled out, or this difference is

> resolved? If not, how were the guidelines, which are so much clearer,

> arrived at?

Another section on chelation starts p. 199 in the appendix.

--

> thanks,

> NJ

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I was looking through the Amalgam Illness book, ready to start my

> DMSA, and couldn't find the advice that matches the Guidelines here by

> Dean and TK.

>

> In AI, I'm finding on page 90, where Cutler says to begin with 50-100

> mg dmsa every 4 hours, and he doesn't say to do it in rounds at first.

> He only seems to talk about rounds when you begin to do ALA with DMSA.

> He seems to be saying that you do dmsa continuously at 4 hour

> intervals till you get it basically cleared from your blood. Then to

> begin the DMSA with ALA on the 'rounds' schedule. I've read this over

> and over, but that's what I get from it.

>

> Later on pg 131, he briefly refers to 'proper protocol', and mentions

> " DMSA every 3-4 hours on alternate weeks " for 2-6 months, implying

> rounds. Here the dosage isn't mentioned at all, it's apparently

> referring to what was said earlier, when rounds weren't mentioned.

> ???

>

> Can anyone clarify what this is all about?

Yes.

You are studious. My compliments.

You can do any of the chelators in rounds of 3 days if you want. The ALA is

most side-

effecty, so it is most compelling for a lot of people to stop at that point.

Most people tolerate week long rounds of DMSA or DMPS just fine. Longer rounds

are

suggested if they are convenient and you tolerate them OK. The book is written

as if you

are doing this. However if you need to cut it back, do at least 3 days at a

time.

> Is there anywhere in the

> book where the protocol is clearly spelled out, or this difference is

> resolved? If not, how were the guidelines, which are so much clearer,

> arrived at?

The chelation protocol itself is actually laid out more clearly in my book Hair

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Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

www.noamlagam.com/hairtestbook.html

and the guidelines given here are (mostly, I admit I didn't go review all the

earlier e-mails)

what I have arrived at in discussions on these lists and in case consultations

with many

people over the last 8 years.

The part most people find confusing is to have a good technical perspective and

understand what parts of the protocol are flexible and which parts are utterly

fixed by the

laws of nature and have to be adhered to rigidly.

The rigid, must do it right parts are:

Adequately frequent dosing, DMPS every 8 hours or more often, DMSA every 4 or

more

often, ALA every 3-4 or more often (3 preferred).

Adequately long cycles (at least 3 days, AM of day 1 to bedtime of day 3 most

convenient).

If you miss a dose by more than 25% of the time allowed (1 h for ALA or DMSA, 2

h for

DMPS), stop.

If you goof and don't stop after a missed dose, continue until the scheduled end

time or

longer.

The flexible parts are:

How much to take,

How much more often than the above intervals to take it,

How much longer than 3 days to go.

Hope this helps.

>

> thanks,

> NJ

>