Re: Written letter from Motts

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I think you should also ask if they get the apple sauce or they just can it. Because if they get the applesauce from somewhere else you would also need a letter from them. I still wouldn't believe a company like them. Have you read about what they have done to babyfood in the past? Then there was the recent issue with flour in mustard powder. Organic food that isn't really organic. It's so easy to make it to be sure what is in it. Katy

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No, that's not good enough. Anyone can say anything in an email. If you want to use this as proof, that's your choice. Also, don't they put preservatives. Really, the letter should outline the applesauce making process from beginning to end to be 100% proof. Ugh this whole applesauce deal is really bugging me. I don't even like applesauce, and I'd be fine not eating it at all, so therefore I don't want to make my own. But every time I even HINT that I'm going to eat something, my mom says, "well why don't you have some applesauce?" UGH!!! She wants to help me and I think she thinks that applesauce is some magical food that will stop my D. I've done BRAT diet research and tried to talk to her about why that doesn't make any sense, but she won't listen! So I may just have to use that as proof for now if they even give it to me in case she makes me eat more of it.Keep in mind, even if you get a written letter, the apples need to be cooked to make applesauce especially in the beginning. I doubt they cook them. Not that the uncooked apples would be illegal but they'd be slightly advanced.Really? They don't cook them? Hmm....maybe if I tell her that she won't make me eat it! I'm not eating raw anything right now!Please share if they send a letter though. I can tolerate uncooked applesauce... :Will do =) Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!!!

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It is a lot of work- I'm getting ready to go out of town so the last few days were cooking days. You sort of get into a routine where you make the basics- apples, yogurt. On baking days I make a lot and freeze, the same with chicken soup- make a ton and freeze. The cooked apples also freeze well. It's easier this way so you're not cooking all the time, and you have back up meals in the freezer.I have been making baked apples for a while now in big batches and freezing them and it IS a lot of work. I just don't want to have to make baked apples AND applesauce. I like them not pureed! And I really don't want to work so hard on something I don't even want to eat. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!!!

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I've done BRAT diet research and tried to talk to her about why that doesn't

make any sense, but she won't listen! So I may just have to use that as proof

for now if they even give it to me in case she makes me eat more

She sounds a bit like my hubby- who still 18 months later refuses to believe

it's the soup that pulls me out of bad times - it always does- but he says " it

was probably going to pass on it's own anyway "

-so guess what ? this time as it was just D once a day and I felt fine the rest,

I let it go to see if it would get better (and apples wouldn't help or bananas

if you're yeasty anyway ) 1 1/2 weeks later!!! ... I started soup today - now IF

I'm firmer soon I'm hoping your mom and my hubby will see that no apples or

bananas would have done a thing for me - I did use banana with soup once

(pre-yeast) days and thought it helped but I REALLY know the soup 3/4 times a

day does it - even makes me crampy sometimes as it's firming me back up - I mean

i feel the healing and still - he can't fathom that liquid can bind you - LOL -

he's coming around slowly

now to work on my dad - LOL -whose hot dog (illegal) touched ny steak on his

grill yesterday and I nearly died!!!! this is why I travel with my food cooked

already - but it was so sweet of him to pick up something I could eat, so we

grilled but i cut that part off and gave it to my son -LOL

fanatical??? just a smidge :-)

eileen 18 months scd

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It is a lot of work- I'm getting ready to go out of town so the last few days were cooking days. You sort of get into a routine where you make the basics- apples, yogurt. On baking days I make a lot and freeze, the same with chicken soup- make a ton and freeze. The cooked apples als! o freeze well. It's easier this way so you're not cooking all the time, and you have back up meals in the freezer.I have been making baked apples for a while now in big batches and freezing them and it IS a lot of work. I just don't want to have to make baked apples AND applesauce. I like them not pureed! And I really don't want to work so hard on something I don't even want to eat.LOL, Alyssa. Of course you don't have to do both.Baked apples are just as good as apple sauce. I made a tonof baked apples last year and practically no sauce. Justpeel them - because the skin has pectin in it and in your sensitivestate that might be problematic. One way I make them is to bake them by adding some diluted juice partway up the side of the pan - apple cider or grape (or really anything legal) - and then I fill up the empty cores with a mix of various berries, depending on the season, blueberries, raspberries, cranberries, etc. and I add a dollop of coconut oil and cinnamon. They come out really scrumptious that way. I disagree with Eileen by the way about taking away the coconut oilfrom your diet. She was particularly sensitive to it and had a reactionto it - but it hasn't been something you reacted to and it is on thebeginner diet, and your problem is not yeast and yeast dieoff,so i think you are probably all right with it. I'd add the lemon back in, too,soon. Just eat plenty of broth. And although Elaine didn't think thatonion was good for beginniners, the GAPS woman does, she thought it was very healing so keep in mind there is some variety of opinion on that issue. I myself have never had a problem with onion and haveeaten it since pretty much the beginning, so my own personal experienceis in accord with that opinion. Of course, everyone is different, yada, yada.Mara

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It is a lot of work- I'm getting ready to go out of town so the last few days were cooking days. You sort of get into a routine where you make the basics- apples, yogurt. On baking days I make a lot and freeze, the same with chicken soup- make a ton and freeze. The cooked apples als! o freeze well. It's easier this way so you're not cooking all the time, and you have back up meals in the freezer.I have been making baked apples for a while now in big batches and freezing them and it IS a lot of work. I just don't want to have to make baked apples AND applesauce. I like them not pureed! And I really don't want to work so hard on something I don't even want to eat.LOL, Alyssa. Of course you don't have to do both.Baked apples are just as good as apple sauce. I made a tonof baked apples last year and practically no sauce. Justpeel them - because the skin has pectin in it and in your sensitivestate that might be problematic. One way I make them is to bake them by adding some diluted juice partway up the side of the pan - apple cider or grape (or really anything legal) - and then I fill up the empty cores with a mix of various berries, depending on the season, blueberries, raspberries, cranberries, etc. and I add a dollop of coconut oil and cinnamon. They come out really scrumptious that way. I disagree with Eileen by the way about taking away the coconut oilfrom your diet. She was particularly sensitive to it and had a reactionto it - but it hasn't been something you reacted to and it is on thebeginner diet, and your problem is not yeast and yeast dieoff,so i think you are probably all right with it. I'd add the lemon back in, too,soon. Just eat plenty of broth. And although Elaine didn't think thatonion was good for beginniners, the GAPS woman does, she thought it was very healing so keep in mind there is some variety of opinion on that issue. I myself have never had a problem with onion and haveeaten it since pretty much the beginning, so my own personal experienceis in accord with that opinion. Of course, everyone is different, yada, yada.Mara

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It is a lot of work- I'm getting ready to go out of town so the last few days were cooking days. You sort of get into a routine where you make the basics- apples, yogurt. On baking days I make a lot and freeze, the same with chicken soup- make a ton and freeze. The cooked apples als! o freeze well. It's easier this way so you're not cooking all the time, and you have back up meals in the freezer.I have been making baked apples for a while now in big batches and freezing them and it IS a lot of work. I just don't want to have to make baked apples AND applesauce. I like them not pureed! And I really don't want to work so hard on something I don't even want to eat.LOL, Alyssa. Of course you don't have to do both.Baked apples are just as good as apple sauce. I made a tonof baked apples last year and practically no sauce. Justpeel them - because the skin has pectin in it and in your sensitivestate that might be problematic. One way I make them is to bake them by adding some diluted juice partway up the side of the pan - apple cider or grape (or really anything legal) - and then I fill up the empty cores with a mix of various berries, depending on the season, blueberries, raspberries, cranberries, etc. and I add a dollop of coconut oil and cinnamon. They come out really scrumptious that way. I disagree with Eileen by the way about taking away the coconut oilfrom your diet. She was particularly sensitive to it and had a reactionto it - but it hasn't been something you reacted to and it is on thebeginner diet, and your problem is not yeast and yeast dieoff,so i think you are probably all right with it. I'd add the lemon back in, too,soon. Just eat plenty of broth. And although Elaine didn't think thatonion was good for beginniners, the GAPS woman does, she thought it was very healing so keep in mind there is some variety of opinion on that issue. I myself have never had a problem with onion and haveeaten it since pretty much the beginning, so my own personal experienceis in accord with that opinion. Of course, everyone is different, yada, yada.Mara

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Alyssa, have your parents read Breaking the Vicious Cycle? If not, BADGER them

till they do! Also, get them to come to this group and post their concerns.

Maybe we (and especially the SCD veterans) could help alleviate their fears.

Also, is anyone in your family willing to help you cook? I don't know what I'd

do without my mom's help. Probably eat a lot less!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

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> > LOL, Alyssa. Of course you don't have to do both.

>

> Ugh come tell it to my mom!!! We'll see how today goes though and

> hopefully it will not include applesauce =)

>

> > Baked apples are just as good as apple sauce. I made a ton

> > of baked apples last year and practically no sauce. Just

> > peel them - because the skin has pectin in it and in your sensitive

> > state that might be problematic.

>

> I spent a rather long time peeling and slicing apples the other day,

> and they're already almost gone!!! I think I just may have to invest

> in Kim's apple peeler/corer/slicer.

>

> Pour Dieu, pour terre,

> Alyssa 15

> UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds!!!

>

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Alyssa, have your parents read Breaking the Vicious Cycle?I don't think so. If not, BADGER them till they do! Also, get them to come to this group and post their concerns. Maybe we (and especially the SCD veterans) could help alleviate their fears.Hm. Maybe so. No applesauce yesterday though (yay!) so maybe it's all good now =)Also, is anyone in your family willing to help you cook? I don't know what I'd do without my mom's help. Probably eat a lot less!My dad is really good about helping me, and my mom helped peel and slice some apples the other day, so that was good. My brother actually offered once to make some SCD cookies for me while I went somewhere (cant remember what I was doing) but the recipe seemed a little advanced for him. (they were the cinnamon crunch cookies from nomorecrohs, the ones that you have to change the oven temp for about 4 times. Ahh! I wasn't sure he could handle it) So my family's pretty good about that. =) Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!!!

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I'm glad your parents are involved- and they may want to see some of the posts

to get an idea about this group-

About the making things from scratch..it may look a bit fanatical to someone not

experiencing this. However, it's not because of SCD, but that the food industry

is adding more and more chemicals and additives to food unfortunately.

One of my kids has food allergies, so I have always had to read labels, and I am

frustrated too by how hard it is to find something made without all kinds of

additives.

So many restaurants get food packaged and pre-made with additives, especially

the chain restaurants.

I would love to be able to use more convenience foods, but unfortunately it's

hard to find good ones- so as a result I make a lot from scratch-but it's not

fanaticism- just necessity.

My in-laws did not have the money for convenience foods, fast foods, or junk

food. They lived through the depression and raised a large family with hardly

any money- so my MIL could not be swayed by modern conveniences and they could

never eat out. My MIL is always in the kitchen. They can eat anything they want

and they are doing great----in their 90's!!! ( thank G-d). Now I wonder if their

having to cook everything helped keep them well.

PJ

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> > Alyssa, have your parents read Breaking the Vicious Cycle?

>

> I don't think so.

>

> > If not, BADGER them till they do! Also, get them to come to this

> > group and post their concerns. Maybe we (and especially the SCD

> > veterans) could help alleviate their fears.

>

> Hm. Maybe so. No applesauce yesterday though (yay!) so maybe it's all

> good now =)

>

> > Also, is anyone in your family willing to help you cook? I don't

> > know what I'd do without my mom's help. Probably eat a lot less!

>

> My dad is really good about helping me, and my mom helped peel and

> slice some apples the other day, so that was good. My brother actually

> offered once to make some SCD cookies for me while I went somewhere

> (cant remember what I was doing) but the recipe seemed a little

> advanced for him. (they were the cinnamon crunch cookies from

> nomorecrohs, the ones that you have to change the oven temp for about

> 4 times. Ahh! I wasn't sure he could handle it) So my family's pretty

> good about that. =)

>

> Pour Dieu, pour terre,

> Alyssa 15

> UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds!!!

>

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no doubt - diet means a lot - and way to go! God Bless them!!

eileen 18 months scd and years of junk before- but never from mom :-)

> >

> > > Alyssa, have your parents read Breaking the Vicious Cycle?

> >

> > I don't think so.

> >

> > > If not, BADGER them till they do! Also, get them to come to this

> > > group and post their concerns. Maybe we (and especially the SCD

> > > veterans) could help alleviate their fears.

> >

> > Hm. Maybe so. No applesauce yesterday though (yay!) so maybe it's all

> > good now =)

> >

> > > Also, is anyone in your family willing to help you cook? I don't

> > > know what I'd do without my mom's help. Probably eat a lot less!

> >

> > My dad is really good about helping me, and my mom helped peel and

> > slice some apples the other day, so that was good. My brother actually

> > offered once to make some SCD cookies for me while I went somewhere

> > (cant remember what I was doing) but the recipe seemed a little

> > advanced for him. (they were the cinnamon crunch cookies from

> > nomorecrohs, the ones that you have to change the oven temp for about

> > 4 times. Ahh! I wasn't sure he could handle it) So my family's pretty

> > good about that. =)

> >

> > Pour Dieu, pour terre,

> > Alyssa 15

> > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

> > SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> > No meds!!!

> >

>

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My in-laws did not have the money for convenience foods, fast foods, or junk food. They lived through the depression and raised a large family with hardly any money- so my MIL could not be swayed by modern conveniences and they could never eat out. My MIL is always in the kitchen. They can eat anything they want and they are doing great----in their 90's!!! ( thank G-d). Now I wonder if their having to cook everything helped keep them well.There's no question, IMO. Good for them!!! Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!!!