Re: HC

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> After a while I when I stopped it I would occasional feel shaky and low in

> cortisol when I was stressed, and I would just know that I needed some

that

> day. So if I would dose 2.5 mg or 5mg (still at one of the suggested

times)

> 7am - 11am or 5am as a once off.

Sorry, this is incorrect, The correct dosing times are close to 7am -

11am -3pm

Or 4 times a day at 7am - 10am - 1pm and 4pm as suggested.

Consistency is desired so as not to stress the adrenal further (they like a

tight schedule :-))

I also have heard from others, that taking it all as a once of daily dose

(say 15mg) at 7-8am is enough to do the trick and reset the circadian rhythm

especially where insomnia is involved.

Late cortisol levels at 11-12 at night are the best way to diagnose

sub-clinical depression and usually corresponds to being more alert at that

time and resisting bed.

I always find it ironic that almost every medical doctor has NO idea about

how to properly use the ONLY hormone ESSENTIAL to life, cortisol, and have

even less of a clue about the only gland in the body that produces it?

Oh, and resist ANY discussion on the matter!

No how can you trust your health to a doctor like this?

Boggles the mind....

We need to either learn how to use it ourselves or find a REAL doctor that

is properly informed (that's if you even need one if you have this list)

Dean

[Guest guest]

> After a while I when I stopped it I would occasional feel shaky and low in

> cortisol when I was stressed, and I would just know that I needed some

that

> day. So if I would dose 2.5 mg or 5mg (still at one of the suggested

times)

> 7am - 11am or 5am as a once off.

Sorry, this is incorrect, The correct dosing times are close to 7am -

11am -3pm

Or 4 times a day at 7am - 10am - 1pm and 4pm as suggested.

Consistency is desired so as not to stress the adrenal further (they like a

tight schedule :-))

I also have heard from others, that taking it all as a once of daily dose

(say 15mg) at 7-8am is enough to do the trick and reset the circadian rhythm

especially where insomnia is involved.

Late cortisol levels at 11-12 at night are the best way to diagnose

sub-clinical depression and usually corresponds to being more alert at that

time and resisting bed.

I always find it ironic that almost every medical doctor has NO idea about

how to properly use the ONLY hormone ESSENTIAL to life, cortisol, and have

even less of a clue about the only gland in the body that produces it?

Oh, and resist ANY discussion on the matter!

No how can you trust your health to a doctor like this?

Boggles the mind....

We need to either learn how to use it ourselves or find a REAL doctor that

is properly informed (that's if you even need one if you have this list)

Dean

[Guest guest]

> After a while I when I stopped it I would occasional feel shaky and low in

> cortisol when I was stressed, and I would just know that I needed some

that

> day. So if I would dose 2.5 mg or 5mg (still at one of the suggested

times)

> 7am - 11am or 5am as a once off.

Sorry, this is incorrect, The correct dosing times are close to 7am -

11am -3pm

Or 4 times a day at 7am - 10am - 1pm and 4pm as suggested.

Consistency is desired so as not to stress the adrenal further (they like a

tight schedule :-))

I also have heard from others, that taking it all as a once of daily dose

(say 15mg) at 7-8am is enough to do the trick and reset the circadian rhythm

especially where insomnia is involved.

Late cortisol levels at 11-12 at night are the best way to diagnose

sub-clinical depression and usually corresponds to being more alert at that

time and resisting bed.

I always find it ironic that almost every medical doctor has NO idea about

how to properly use the ONLY hormone ESSENTIAL to life, cortisol, and have

even less of a clue about the only gland in the body that produces it?

Oh, and resist ANY discussion on the matter!

No how can you trust your health to a doctor like this?

Boggles the mind....

We need to either learn how to use it ourselves or find a REAL doctor that

is properly informed (that's if you even need one if you have this list)

Dean

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> If you are not making enough cortisol it seems that NOTHING else

will work.

> Cortisol is like the 'conductor' of healing. It deserves real

respect and

> I'm so glad I got my head around using it.

Totally seconding this.

Great news, Dean.

Nell

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> If you are not making enough cortisol it seems that NOTHING else

will work.

> Cortisol is like the 'conductor' of healing. It deserves real

respect and

> I'm so glad I got my head around using it.

Totally seconding this.

Great news, Dean.

Nell

[Guest guest]

> If you are not making enough cortisol it seems that NOTHING else

will work.

> Cortisol is like the 'conductor' of healing. It deserves real

respect and

> I'm so glad I got my head around using it.

Totally seconding this.

Great news, Dean.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Hi Russ and Dean,

I am reading this thread and wondering about my HC dosing. I started dosing like

suggested- 4 times a day- like this:

6 am 7.5 mg

9 am 5 mg

12:30 pm 5 mg

4 pm 2.5 mg

But, here is my problem: when 9 pm comes around and it is almost time for me to

sleep, I am getting low cortisol symptoms. I dose 2.5 mg to get to sleep. It

does the job, but I wake up about 5-6 hours later with low cortisol symptoms and

end up tossing and turning until I get up and take my dose the next morning.

Val, on NTHAdrenals, suggested I tried dosing 5 mg before bed, instead of 2.5. I

am going to try that tonight.

Can you suggest anything else? Could this problem staying alseep mean that I

should be dosing more during the day? I really don't know what to make of this.

I feel really good during the day. Going the entire night without HC is the

problem.

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

>

> But, here is my problem: when 9 pm comes around and it is almost

time for me to sleep, I am getting low cortisol symptoms. I dose 2.5

mg to get to sleep. It does the job, but I wake up about 5-6 hours

later with low cortisol symptoms and end up tossing and turning until

I get up and take my dose the next morning.

Olif,

I was having big sleep troubles too (much achiness and soreness) and I

took 5 mg of Cortef at bedtime for about 6 months. It made all the

difference. I've weaned off the bedtime dose now and am taking 5 mg at

7, 11, and 3.

It does seem like there's enough individual difference that we need to

try some variations to see which one works best for us.

One thing I've found important is taking the doses on a rigid

schedule. If I'm not wearing my alarm watch and take a dose late, it

doesn't work as well -- like I'm playing catch-up the rest of the day

and never really succeeding.

Nell

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Russ and Dean,

>

> I am reading this thread and wondering about my HC dosing. I started

dosing like suggested- 4 times a day- like this:

> 6 am 7.5 mg

> 9 am 5 mg

> 12:30 pm 5 mg

> 4 pm 2.5 mg

>

> But, here is my problem: when 9 pm comes around and it is almost

>time for me to sleep, I am getting low cortisol symptoms.

What are the symptoms that you are getting? For me, fatigue, can't do

anything but sleep is low cortisol. The other low cortisol symptom I

get is nausea.

> I dose 2.5 mg to get to sleep. It does the job, but I wake up about

>5-6 hours later with low cortisol symptoms

I am thinking that you may be getting low blood sugar symptoms and

that eating a small amount of protein before going to bed might help

(for example drink unflavored geletin disolved in water or some other

protein source). (Also avoiding sugary things prevents the low blood

sugar crashes).

J

> and end up tossing and turning until I get up and take my dose the

>next morning.

>

> Val, on NTHAdrenals, suggested I tried dosing 5 mg before bed,

instead of 2.5. I am going to try that tonight.

>

> Can you suggest anything else? Could this problem staying alseep

mean that I should be dosing more during the day? I really don't know

what to make of this. I feel really good during the day. Going the

entire night without HC is the problem.

>

> Thanks,

> Olif

>

>

[Guest guest]

> What do you do when you wake up at different times?

I take it first thing when I wake up, unless I wake unusually early

for some reason. So it varies when I take the first dose but that

doesn't seem to matter so much. How I get into trouble is feeling

really good and going on about my day, and then suddenly realizing at

noon that I've missed a dose and starting to fade.

> I am typically up between 5:30-6:30 a.m. The first I thing I want to

do is get the HC in me so I don't feel so dead. So, some days I am

taking it at 5:30 and others not until 6:30. Then I seem to need the

next a.m. dose 3 hours later- I can't wait 4 hours yet. After the

first 2 doses, I can dose 4 hours later.

I would keep doing it that way if it's working for you.

>

> I am on 25 mg HC. I was hoping to stop at 20, but it just isn't

working out that way.

You may be able to wean down before too long. The biggest clue that I

was taking more than I needed was weight gain around the middle. But

for about 4-5 months that didn't happen and I clearly needed the

higher dose.

Nell