Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 If I could piggyback in on Ben's question, I would like to hear what methods employers are utilising to hold people to such contracts, as well as how often it becomes necessary to do so. Thanks, Rob On Tuesday, June 30, 2009 09:24, " Ben " ben6308@...> said: > Hello All, > > I am looking for a training contract for my department to utilize. We are in > need of something that discusses paying for a paramedic class in return for X > years of service. If anybody has one that I could look at and possibly > " borrow " , I'd be most appreciative!! > > Thanks, > Ben Oakley, EMT-B > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 The barristers on this list should weigh in on these questions. I don't know how the Texas courts treat these contracts, but I would think that any claims of breach would necessarily compare the actual value of such training against the actual value of the length of voluntary servitude. It seems as though any imbalance between the two could be problematic. .. Bob On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:53 AM, rob.davis@... < rob.davis@...> wrote: > > > If I could piggyback in on Ben's question, I would like to hear what > methods employers are utilising to hold people to such contracts, as well as > how often it becomes necessary to do so. > > Thanks, > > Rob > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2009 09:24, " Ben " ben6308@...> > said: > > > Hello All, > > > > I am looking for a training contract for my department to utilize. We are > in > > need of something that discusses paying for a paramedic class in return > for X > > years of service. If anybody has one that I could look at and possibly > > " borrow " , I'd be most appreciative!! > > > > Thanks, > > Ben Oakley, EMT-B > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Without doing some research, I'd be loathe to opine.? However, I've always heard, informally, that these contracts are very different to enforce. Realistically speaking, would a service that needs paramedics that badly be able to afford hiring legal counsel to get reimbursement?? And if you have an unhappy employee, do you really want to force them to stay? -Wes Ogilvie (not y'all's lawyer) Re: Training Contract The barristers on this list should weigh in on these questions. I don't know how the Texas courts treat these contracts, but I would think that any claims of breach would necessarily compare the actual value of such training against the actual value of the length of voluntary servitude. It seems as though any imbalance between the two could be problematic. .. Bob On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:53 AM, rob.davis@... < rob.davis@...> wrote: > > > If I could piggyback in on Ben's question, I would like to hear what > methods employers are utilising to hold people to such contracts, as well as > how often it becomes necessary to do so. > > Thanks, > > Rob > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2009 09:24, " Ben " ben6308@...> > said: > > > Hello All, > > > > I am looking for a training contract for my department to utilize. We are > in > > need of something that discusses paying for a paramedic class in return > for X > > years of service. If anybody has one that I could look at and possibly > > " borrow " , I'd be most appreciative!! > > > > Thanks, > > Ben Oakley, EMT-B > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 wHAT did you SAY? Speak englixh. Henry Re: Training Contract The barristers on this list should weigh in on these questions. I don't know how the Texas courts treat these contracts, but I would think that any claims of breach would necessarily compare the actual value of such training against the actual value of the length of voluntary servitude. It seems as though any imbalance between the two could be problematic. . Bob On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:53 AM, rob.davis@... < rob.davis@...> wrote: > > > If I could piggyback in on Ben's question, I would like to hear what > methods employers are utilising to hold people to such contracts, as well as > how often it becomes necessary to do so. > > Thanks, > > Rob > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2009 09:24, " Ben " ben6308@...> > said: > > > Hello All, > > > > I am looking for a training contract for my department to utilize. We are > in > > need of something that discusses paying for a paramedic class in return > for X > > years of service. If anybody has one that I could look at and possibly > > " borrow " , I'd be most appreciative!! > > > > Thanks, > > Ben Oakley, EMT-B > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 There are two ways that are used that I know about, probably many more, but one is for the employee to pay for the education up front. Then the employer pays back a stated portion of the cost over whatever period is decided on. For example, if the employee agrees to stay two years, then each month 1/24 of the cost is paid to him. The disadvantage of this is that many don't have the money to pay up front. A second way is for the person to float a loan for the education. This can sometimes be arranged by the employer. They either directly make the loan and pay the tuition or they work with a lender. The employee signs a note, and each month a portion of the note is " forgiven. " Either way the employee pays taxes on it. The first one is the most foolproof, but the last one works, particularly if they work through a lender. If the employee quits, the note becomes due in the latter case, and in the first case, payments stop. Hope this helps. GG > > > > Without doing some research, I'd be loathe to opine.? However, I've always > heard, informally, that these contracts are very different to enforce. > > Realistically speaking, would a service that needs paramedics that badly > be able to afford hiring legal counsel to get reimbursement? Realistically > speaking, would a service that needs paramedics that badly be abl > > -Wes Ogilvie (not y'all's lawyer) > > Re: Training Contract > > The barristers on this list should weigh in on these questions. I don't > know > how the Texas courts treat these contracts, but I would think that any > claims of breach would necessarily compare the actual value of such > training against the actual value of the length of voluntary servitude. It > seems as though any imbalance between the two could be problematic. > . > Bob > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:53 AM, rob.davis@... < > rob.davis@...> wrote: > > > > > > > If I could piggyback in on Ben's question, I would like to hear what > > methods employers are utilising to hold people to such contracts, as > well as > > how often it becomes necessary to do so. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rob > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2009 09:24, " Ben " ben6308@...< > ben6308%40earthlinben63>> > > said: > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > I am looking for a training contract for my department to utilize. We > are > > in > > > need of something that discusses paying for a paramedic class in > return > > for X > > > years of service. If anybody has one that I could look at and possibly > > > " borrow " , I'd be most appreciative! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ben Oakley, EMT-B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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