Re: Re: was: (denise's list) Dr. Udell, now: DAN doctors in general

[Guest guest]

My point is that it can be done because our previous DAN Dr. was an insurance provider. Their are Dr.'s who practice integrative medicine that take insurance and never have their licenses revoked. Chelation can be covered by insurance because a partial part of our monthly chelation is covered by our insurance as well as a small amount of our B-12 shots. We could not get our HBOT covered, however, we bought our own chamber and then wrote that expense off on our taxes and received a big chunk of it back.

Re: Dr Udell's fees?

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> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

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> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Thank you for all your posts. All of them contain great info. Could you please advise on contact information for this previous Dan Dr. who takes insurance?Thank youSharon To: sList Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Re: was: (denise's list) Dr. Udell, now: DAN doctors in general

My point is that it can be done because our previous DAN Dr. was an insurance provider. Their are Dr.'s who practice integrative medicine that take insurance and never have their licenses revoked. Chelation can be covered by insurance because a partial part of our monthly chelation is covered by our insurance as well as a small amount of our B-12 shots. We could not get our HBOT covered, however, we bought our own chamber and then wrote that expense off on our taxes and received a big chunk of it back.

Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Harum in Wilmington NC.

Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Harum in Wilmington NC.

Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Harum in Wilmington NC.

Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Worthington in Gainesville is a pediatritian and also a Dan , she used to take insurance. She is wonderful and take her time with every child. You will have to call and find out if she still taking insurance.Here is her info.Phone:

Fax:

Email: worthingtonpeds@...Do not allow that any problem be bigger than your faith, all things are possible in God... Just believe!!!!Helen Subject: Re: Re: was: (denise's list) Dr. Udell, now: DAN doctors in generalTo: sList Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:18 PM

Dr. Harum in Wilmington NC.

Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe if these dan doctors lowered the fees they would get more clients. It's no wonder the insurance companies do not cover the majority of these physicians. Their fees are astronomical and many do not have the certification as specialized physicianas. Do Board Certified Allergists charge 250 to 500 dollars per visit for a general visit that does not include shots or skin testing??? Did these physicians go to a 4 year medical school and then a fellowship for an additional 3-4 years? Did these doctors take a licenced exam such as a Board Certified Allergist? Now lets look at a pediatric dentist who performs procedures. They spend alot of time on these patients and actually perform surgery for less than a dan doctor.

It's also ludicrous how a dan doctor can charge 250.00 a visit to just prescribe an antidepresent drug. Then they make you return quarterly for additional scripts. Even a board certified psychiatrist does not charge those fees once the patient has had a consultation, yet a board certified psychiatrist has gone through more training than most of these dan doctors. Unless these Dan doctors lower their fees and can show some substancial amount of certification as may of our specialists such as neurologists, psychiatrists, gastroenterologists, allergists, etc, the insurance companies are not going to cover these services. It is up to these doctors to lower their fees and offer competitive rates. There is also a lack of clinical data to support the treatments that these dan

doctors follow. To: sList Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:22 PM Subject: Re: was: (denise's list) Dr. Udell, now: DAN doctors in general

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My point was that because they prescribe unconventional treatments, it would be unrealistic if they became insurance providers because they can get in a lot of trouble. Many who were brought under scrutiny have had their license revoked. I guess I was trying to say this in a roundabout way that wouldn't get anyone in trouble. "Hypothetically", would insurance cover a doctor who is prescribing chelation, hbot, mb12 injections? How do they treat doctors who are openly against vaccinations? What happens when the spot light is on one who does? These are some serious questions with serious ramifications.

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> > I totally agree. This has to do with our disabled children - what better

> > place to discuss with other parents in the same position.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/19/2012 11:31:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > zandersmom99@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I disagree with you. I think this conversation couldn't be more

> > appropriate for this list serve. I have found out some wonderful and important

> > (such as fee structure) information about many DAN Dr.'s because of this

> > thread. I am NEVER a fan of censoring information that can only serve to assist

> > special needs caregivers in finding the right fit and the right solution

> > for their loved ones.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe if these dan doctors lowered the fees they would get more clients. It's no wonder the insurance companies do not cover the majority of these physicians. Their fees are astronomical and many do not have the certification as specialized physicianas. Do Board Certified Allergists charge 250 to 500 dollars per visit for a general visit that does not include shots or skin testing??? Did these physicians go to a 4 year medical school and then a fellowship for an additional 3-4 years? Did these doctors take a licenced exam such as a Board Certified Allergist? Now lets look at a pediatric dentist who performs procedures. They spend alot of time on these patients and actually perform surgery for less than a dan doctor.

It's also ludicrous how a dan doctor can charge 250.00 a visit to just prescribe an antidepresent drug. Then they make you return quarterly for additional scripts. Even a board certified psychiatrist does not charge those fees once the patient has had a consultation, yet a board certified psychiatrist has gone through more training than most of these dan doctors. Unless these Dan doctors lower their fees and can show some substancial amount of certification as may of our specialists such as neurologists, psychiatrists, gastroenterologists, allergists, etc, the insurance companies are not going to cover these services. It is up to these doctors to lower their fees and offer competitive rates. There is also a lack of clinical data to support the treatments that these dan

doctors follow. To: sList Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:22 PM Subject: Re: was: (denise's list) Dr. Udell, now: DAN doctors in general

,

My point was that because they prescribe unconventional treatments, it would be unrealistic if they became insurance providers because they can get in a lot of trouble. Many who were brought under scrutiny have had their license revoked. I guess I was trying to say this in a roundabout way that wouldn't get anyone in trouble. "Hypothetically", would insurance cover a doctor who is prescribing chelation, hbot, mb12 injections? How do they treat doctors who are openly against vaccinations? What happens when the spot light is on one who does? These are some serious questions with serious ramifications.

> >

> > I totally agree. This has to do with our disabled children - what better

> > place to discuss with other parents in the same position.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/19/2012 11:31:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > zandersmom99@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I disagree with you. I think this conversation couldn't be more

> > appropriate for this list serve. I have found out some wonderful and important

> > (such as fee structure) information about many DAN Dr.'s because of this

> > thread. I am NEVER a fan of censoring information that can only serve to assist

> > special needs caregivers in finding the right fit and the right solution

> > for their loved ones.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe if these dan doctors lowered the fees they would get more clients. It's no wonder the insurance companies do not cover the majority of these physicians. Their fees are astronomical and many do not have the certification as specialized physicianas. Do Board Certified Allergists charge 250 to 500 dollars per visit for a general visit that does not include shots or skin testing??? Did these physicians go to a 4 year medical school and then a fellowship for an additional 3-4 years? Did these doctors take a licenced exam such as a Board Certified Allergist? Now lets look at a pediatric dentist who performs procedures. They spend alot of time on these patients and actually perform surgery for less than a dan doctor.

It's also ludicrous how a dan doctor can charge 250.00 a visit to just prescribe an antidepresent drug. Then they make you return quarterly for additional scripts. Even a board certified psychiatrist does not charge those fees once the patient has had a consultation, yet a board certified psychiatrist has gone through more training than most of these dan doctors. Unless these Dan doctors lower their fees and can show some substancial amount of certification as may of our specialists such as neurologists, psychiatrists, gastroenterologists, allergists, etc, the insurance companies are not going to cover these services. It is up to these doctors to lower their fees and offer competitive rates. There is also a lack of clinical data to support the treatments that these dan

doctors follow. To: sList Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:22 PM Subject: Re: was: (denise's list) Dr. Udell, now: DAN doctors in general

,

My point was that because they prescribe unconventional treatments, it would be unrealistic if they became insurance providers because they can get in a lot of trouble. Many who were brought under scrutiny have had their license revoked. I guess I was trying to say this in a roundabout way that wouldn't get anyone in trouble. "Hypothetically", would insurance cover a doctor who is prescribing chelation, hbot, mb12 injections? How do they treat doctors who are openly against vaccinations? What happens when the spot light is on one who does? These are some serious questions with serious ramifications.

> >

> > I totally agree. This has to do with our disabled children - what better

> > place to discuss with other parents in the same position.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/19/2012 11:31:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > zandersmom99@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I disagree with you. I think this conversation couldn't be more

> > appropriate for this list serve. I have found out some wonderful and important

> > (such as fee structure) information about many DAN Dr.'s because of this

> > thread. I am NEVER a fan of censoring information that can only serve to assist

> > special needs caregivers in finding the right fit and the right solution

> > for their loved ones.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Dr Udell's fees?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I quite frankly find this discussion inappropriate for the listserve. If

> > you want to talk about dr fees, e-mail each other privately. Dr. Udell (or

> > any or Dr) has the right to charge what they deem fair for their services. I

> > have taken a few friends and family members to Dr. Udell and he spends

> > TONS OF TIME! He is a B.C. Pediatrician, not something that you are likely to

> > find in the world of DAN! drs. Most have taken a few courses and go about

> > it. Dr. Udell researches everything fully and his experience of what is

> > safe, and what is not, is worth every penny.

> >

> >

> >

> > Shari Shine

> > " A Miracle A Day"

> >

>