Re:Weaning off Cortef Pantothenic Acid And Pantethine

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've been taking it for weak adrenals. What I've been doing is decreasing by 2.5

mg each

dose every week or so. I've been taking ashwaganda too.

I saw this post on another list and thought it might be helpful:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pantethine: http://www.google.com/products?q=Pantethine

Pantothenic acid:

http://www.google.com/products?q=Pantothenic+acid

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- excerpts from:

http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantothenic_acid_and_pantethine.cfm

Pantothenic Acid And Pantethine

[vitamin B5]

When pantothenic acid enters our bodies, it forms a substance

call pantethine. Pantethine is a more stable disulfide form

(or a double bond) of pantothenic acid. It is also a more

active metabolic substrate that is converted into an enzyme

called " Co-Enzyme A " (CoA).

In a nutshell, CoA is the basis for the production of

hemoglobin, bile, sex and adrenal steroids, cholesterol,

and a few brain chemicals and neurotransmitters.

We can consume pantothenic acid through dietary means.

However, it must be noted that the more active form of

pantethine, or its reduced-SH form pantetheine that contains

the SH molecule necessary for enzyme activity cannot be

obtained by consuming whole foods.

When we compare pantethine with pantothenic acid, pantethine

by far more active when it comes to the production of CoA.

This hypothesis has been proven true by many clinical trials.

Although taking pantothenic acid as a form of supplement will

ultimately lead to the creation of CoA, researchers have

pointed out that pantethine creates twice as much CoA than

pantothenic acid. This is because structure of pantethine is

closer to the CoA production pathway.

Pantothenic acid also has its own benefits. It enhances

adrenal functions and inflammatory response modulation. Both

pantothenic acid as well as pantethine should be considered as

one synergistical unit and not as mutually exclusive nutrients.

Pantothenic acid, on the other hand is ideal for enhancing

adrenal functions and reducing reliance on steroids. It also

reduces elevated uric acid levels frequently associated with

gout and reduces inflammatory response. Sometimes, it can be

used as substitute for non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs.

Pantethine seems to exert an influence over some indicators of

adrenal function. Several animal experiments have shown that a

lack of pantothenic acid will affect adrenal cortex function,

most likely due to the reduction of adrenal corticosteroids.

When pantethine or CoA is injected into animals, there is a

marked increase in steroidogenous effect.

People who are taking steroids such as prednisone for treating

health conditions such as asthma and autoimmune disease should

reduce their medication dosage. With the help of pantothenic

acid, they can be slowly wean off their dependency on

anti-inflammatory drugs.

Therapeutic Dosage

Disease Dosage

Autoimmune and Allergic Disorders

400 to 900 mg a day of both

pantethine and pantothenic acid

Stress and adrenal gland enhancement

400 to 900 mg a day of both

pantethine and pantothenic acid

>

> hi

>

> lmk what you learn. i am trying to wean off too. i was on 20 mg 10 at

> lucnh and 10 at dinner and now am at 5 at lunch and 5 at dinner. do you

> take it for energy or for inflamm too?

>

> thanks

> monique

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've been taking it for weak adrenals. What I've been doing is decreasing by 2.5

mg each

dose every week or so. I've been taking ashwaganda too.

I saw this post on another list and thought it might be helpful:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pantethine: http://www.google.com/products?q=Pantethine

Pantothenic acid:

http://www.google.com/products?q=Pantothenic+acid

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- excerpts from:

http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantothenic_acid_and_pantethine.cfm

Pantothenic Acid And Pantethine

[vitamin B5]

When pantothenic acid enters our bodies, it forms a substance

call pantethine. Pantethine is a more stable disulfide form

(or a double bond) of pantothenic acid. It is also a more

active metabolic substrate that is converted into an enzyme

called " Co-Enzyme A " (CoA).

In a nutshell, CoA is the basis for the production of

hemoglobin, bile, sex and adrenal steroids, cholesterol,

and a few brain chemicals and neurotransmitters.

We can consume pantothenic acid through dietary means.

However, it must be noted that the more active form of

pantethine, or its reduced-SH form pantetheine that contains

the SH molecule necessary for enzyme activity cannot be

obtained by consuming whole foods.

When we compare pantethine with pantothenic acid, pantethine

by far more active when it comes to the production of CoA.

This hypothesis has been proven true by many clinical trials.

Although taking pantothenic acid as a form of supplement will

ultimately lead to the creation of CoA, researchers have

pointed out that pantethine creates twice as much CoA than

pantothenic acid. This is because structure of pantethine is

closer to the CoA production pathway.

Pantothenic acid also has its own benefits. It enhances

adrenal functions and inflammatory response modulation. Both

pantothenic acid as well as pantethine should be considered as

one synergistical unit and not as mutually exclusive nutrients.

Pantothenic acid, on the other hand is ideal for enhancing

adrenal functions and reducing reliance on steroids. It also

reduces elevated uric acid levels frequently associated with

gout and reduces inflammatory response. Sometimes, it can be

used as substitute for non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs.

Pantethine seems to exert an influence over some indicators of

adrenal function. Several animal experiments have shown that a

lack of pantothenic acid will affect adrenal cortex function,

most likely due to the reduction of adrenal corticosteroids.

When pantethine or CoA is injected into animals, there is a

marked increase in steroidogenous effect.

People who are taking steroids such as prednisone for treating

health conditions such as asthma and autoimmune disease should

reduce their medication dosage. With the help of pantothenic

acid, they can be slowly wean off their dependency on

anti-inflammatory drugs.

Therapeutic Dosage

Disease Dosage

Autoimmune and Allergic Disorders

400 to 900 mg a day of both

pantethine and pantothenic acid

Stress and adrenal gland enhancement

400 to 900 mg a day of both

pantethine and pantothenic acid

>

> hi

>

> lmk what you learn. i am trying to wean off too. i was on 20 mg 10 at

> lucnh and 10 at dinner and now am at 5 at lunch and 5 at dinner. do you

> take it for energy or for inflamm too?

>

> thanks

> monique

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've been taking it for weak adrenals. What I've been doing is decreasing by 2.5

mg each

dose every week or so. I've been taking ashwaganda too.

I saw this post on another list and thought it might be helpful:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pantethine: http://www.google.com/products?q=Pantethine

Pantothenic acid:

http://www.google.com/products?q=Pantothenic+acid

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- excerpts from:

http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantothenic_acid_and_pantethine.cfm

Pantothenic Acid And Pantethine

[vitamin B5]

When pantothenic acid enters our bodies, it forms a substance

call pantethine. Pantethine is a more stable disulfide form

(or a double bond) of pantothenic acid. It is also a more

active metabolic substrate that is converted into an enzyme

called " Co-Enzyme A " (CoA).

In a nutshell, CoA is the basis for the production of

hemoglobin, bile, sex and adrenal steroids, cholesterol,

and a few brain chemicals and neurotransmitters.

We can consume pantothenic acid through dietary means.

However, it must be noted that the more active form of

pantethine, or its reduced-SH form pantetheine that contains

the SH molecule necessary for enzyme activity cannot be

obtained by consuming whole foods.

When we compare pantethine with pantothenic acid, pantethine

by far more active when it comes to the production of CoA.

This hypothesis has been proven true by many clinical trials.

Although taking pantothenic acid as a form of supplement will

ultimately lead to the creation of CoA, researchers have

pointed out that pantethine creates twice as much CoA than

pantothenic acid. This is because structure of pantethine is

closer to the CoA production pathway.

Pantothenic acid also has its own benefits. It enhances

adrenal functions and inflammatory response modulation. Both

pantothenic acid as well as pantethine should be considered as

one synergistical unit and not as mutually exclusive nutrients.

Pantothenic acid, on the other hand is ideal for enhancing

adrenal functions and reducing reliance on steroids. It also

reduces elevated uric acid levels frequently associated with

gout and reduces inflammatory response. Sometimes, it can be

used as substitute for non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs.

Pantethine seems to exert an influence over some indicators of

adrenal function. Several animal experiments have shown that a

lack of pantothenic acid will affect adrenal cortex function,

most likely due to the reduction of adrenal corticosteroids.

When pantethine or CoA is injected into animals, there is a

marked increase in steroidogenous effect.

People who are taking steroids such as prednisone for treating

health conditions such as asthma and autoimmune disease should

reduce their medication dosage. With the help of pantothenic

acid, they can be slowly wean off their dependency on

anti-inflammatory drugs.

Therapeutic Dosage

Disease Dosage

Autoimmune and Allergic Disorders

400 to 900 mg a day of both

pantethine and pantothenic acid

Stress and adrenal gland enhancement

400 to 900 mg a day of both

pantethine and pantothenic acid

>

> hi

>

> lmk what you learn. i am trying to wean off too. i was on 20 mg 10 at

> lucnh and 10 at dinner and now am at 5 at lunch and 5 at dinner. do you

> take it for energy or for inflamm too?

>

> thanks

> monique

>

[Guest guest]

hi

thanks for the info. does the ashwaganda (sp?) help? does it have any

side effects or contraindications? ex i found that taking milk thistle

wreaked havoc with my bl sugar.

i just started taking usana supplements so am getting lots of good

nutrient supplemt.

thanks

monique

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Honestly, I don't notice anything from the ashwaganda but I'm also

taking a pretty low dose. I don't know about any contraindications

either.

Lately, I've been really exhaused so I may need to make some

adjustments.

Hope this helps,

:^)

Alessa

hi

thanks for the info. does the ashwaganda (sp?) help? does it have any

side effects or contraindications? ex i found that taking milk thistle

wreaked havoc with my bl sugar.

i just started taking usana supplements so am getting lots of good

nutrient supplemt.

thanks

monique

" Lots of people talk to animals. Not that many listen though.

That's the problem. "

- Piglet

[Guest guest]

>

> hi

>

> thanks for the info. does the ashwaganda (sp?) help? does it have any

> side effects or contraindications? ex i found that taking milk thistle

> wreaked havoc with my bl sugar.

> i just started taking usana supplements so am getting lots of good

> nutrient supplemt.

>

Does USANA still have lipoic acid in the supplements? If so the

lipoic acid will take the mercury the wrong way if if isn't dosed at 3

h intervals day and night, even small doses.

J

> thanks

> monique

>