Re: 24 hour fractionated urine porphyrin tests

March 5, 2007

TK--- this is not a necessary test and imo is only for those that

have a hard time with hair testing or believing in the results and

want further proof of some sort.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'd like to ask about the 24 hour fractionated urine porphyrin test.

> I see that elevated urine 'coproporphyrin' is suggestive of mercury

> poisoning (or another toxin) or possibly a genetic disorder. Finding

> elevated 'uroporphyrin' also indicates toxicity rather than

genetics. The

> urine must be collected in a very specific way and handled in a very

> specific manner for accurate results.

>

> Now, I know that Andy suggests most labs may not handle the specimen

> properly and therefore the results cannot be trusted. But what

actually is

> the point of doing this test?

TK--- it is not a necessary test - hair analysis and the counting

rules are prefered

>

> It it to test for mercury by inferral? Or mercury toxicity? Or

damage by

> mercury?

> Almost everyone has some mercury in them, so it it only creating

porphyrins

> in some?

TK--- it should show levels in everyone - high,low

>

> I mean does it quantify the amount of prophyrin's and that can

denote the

> degree of mercury poisoning?

TK-- it does give you a value for the porphrins that is in a range

which would indicate possible Hg toxicity, if I remember correctly -

andy has posts on it in the andy index

> I really don't understand the intent in doing one of these tests

unless you

> want your medical insurance to pay.

TK--- it might help in some instances in getting ins to pay but would

depend on the doctor and ins

> Can anybody explain further?

>

> Thanks,

> Dean

>

March 5, 2007

Dean,

We've used this lab for the porphyrins testing.

Laboratoire Philippe Auguste

119 Avenue Philippe Auguste 75011 Paris France

http://www.labbio.net Tel/Fax:: (33)1.40.09.27.17

Email: contact@...

Secretary :

Tel : (33)1.43.67.57.00

Fax : (33)1.43.79.00.27

It meant an e-mail request from the US-no doc order required. A kit

arrived in ~10 days. No payment until you send the specimen back to

them. I sent it via US Postal service air mail[$1.35]. There is a

custom's form that I had to fill out - for 'what is it' - 'non-

contaminated urine' was acceptable. Results came via e-mail in about

21 days and a paper product followed shortly.

They use the recommended preservative and give directions about

protecting the speciment from light. Instead of 24 hour urine, they

requested a first morning urine. There is info re this

@http://www.safeminds.org/ and a sample report.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'd like to ask about the 24 hour fractionated urine porphyrin

test.

> I see that elevated urine 'coproporphyrin' is suggestive of mercury

> poisoning (or another toxin) or possibly a genetic disorder.

Finding

> elevated 'uroporphyrin' also indicates toxicity rather than

genetics. The

> urine must be collected in a very specific way and handled in a

very